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  <title>Vegans Aren&amp;#8217;t Misanthropes</title>
  <published_at>Tue Jan 08 15:33:00 -0800 2008</published_at>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:33:00 GMT</pubDate>
  <short_description>Isa Chandra Moskowitz dispels the myths</short_description>
  <long_description>Chef Isa Chandra Moskowitz talks about her latest cookbook.</long_description>
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  <author>Lessley Anderson</author>
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<h1>Vegans Aren&#8217;t Misanthropes</h1>

<h3>Isa Chandra Moskowitz dispels the myths</h3>

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	<p>Isa Chandra Moskowitz has done for vegan cuisine what <a href="http://www.chow.com/stories/10370">Deborah Madison</a> and Edward Espé Brown did for vegetarian food with <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0767908236?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=c037-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325&#38;creativeASIN=0767908236"><em>The Greens Cookbook</em></a> in 1979: plucked it from the margins and made it delicious, accessible, and appealing to a wide audience. Yes, even to meat-eaters. The Brooklyn-based Moskowitz talked to CHOW about her third and latest vegan cookbook, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/156924264X?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=c037-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325&#38;creativeASIN=156924264X"><em>Veganomicon</em></a>, written with her friend and frequent collaborator, Terry Romero. (Moskowitz and Romero also produced a cable-access cooking show called <a href="http://www.postpunkkitchen.com"><em>Post Punk Kitchen</em></a>, which featured indie bands rocking out between dishes.) We got to ask her some voyeuristic questions about her diet. Bottom line: If you&#8217;re thinking of going vegan only for health reasons, don&#8217;t. <nobr>&#8212;<span class="author_inline">Lessley Anderson</span></nobr></p>


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<div><strong>Try your hand at<br />Moskowitz&#8217;s vegan<br />home cooking:</strong></div>

	<p><a href="/recipes/11366">French Lentil Soup with Tarragon and Thyme</a><br /><br />
<a href="/recipes/11364">Chickpea Cutlets</a></p>


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	<p><strong>Was it hard to give up meat, dairy, and eggs?</strong></p>


	<p>The meat part wasn&#8217;t. It was the little bits of dairy. I would eat a bunch of Snickers and feel bad. I went vegan twice. The first time, I was 16. Then I stopped being vegan because I felt like, &#8220;I want to be &#8216;normal.&#8217;&#8221; But it didn&#8217;t feel good to be normal. Somebody said once: &#8220;If your friend leaves the room, you&#8217;d never take a dollar from their pocket.&#8221; That&#8217;s the way you feel if you take dairy and cheese from an animal you care about. I became vegan again when I was in my mid-20s.</p>


	<p><strong>Do you worry about ruining other people&#8217;s fun if you&#8217;re all out eating and you can&#8217;t eat most of the stuff?</strong></p>


	<p>I don&#8217;t concern myself with that. So what if I&#8217;m eating a salad? I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m ruining their fun. Sometimes you spend the whole meal having people apologize to you. They say, &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, I&#8217;m going to order a hamburger. Is that OK with you?&#8221; It makes me think that maybe they want to stop eating meat, and that&#8217;s why they&#8217;re saying it.</p>


	<p><strong>Do you tell them that you think it&#8217;s cruel to eat meat?</strong></p>


	<p>I won&#8217;t usually say anything while someone&#8217;s eating. But when people start asking me, then I&#8217;ll say something. Usually, people ask why I gave up meat, and I&#8217;ll tell them: the needless slaughter and killing of animals. I&#8217;ll talk about the environmental reasons for giving up meat&#8212;methane and greenhouse gases and things like that. And I&#8217;ll usually have them try to make the connection that pigs are as loving and as smart as dogs.</p>


	<p><strong>What are some stereotypes that get perpetuated about vegans?</strong></p>


	<p>All vegans are misanthropes. Vegans don&#8217;t care about people. That&#8217;s not true. I think if you did a poll, you would find they do activism for human rights as well as animal rights. There&#8217;s the &#8220;emaciated vegan with an eating disorder&#8221; stereotype, which I&#8217;m not. And: All vegans are rich, upper middle class, and white. All of those things are perpetuated, I think, just to undermine the basic premise of veganism.</p>


	<p><strong>What did you eat growing up?</strong></p>


	<p>Hamburger Helper, frozen food, microwave food. I did have an interest in cooking, but it wasn&#8217;t accessible to me.</p>


	<p><strong>How did you become a vegan chef?</strong></p>


	<p>Ever since I went vegan, even in my interim of not being vegan, food was a way for me to build community. In the ’90s I was a waitress and went into the back of the kitchen and learned stuff, and I also worked for a while cooking in a café in Baltimore. I got my hands on every grain, every bean, and just kept cooking things. I read a lot of classic books: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743246268?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=c037-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325&#38;creativeASIN=0743246268"><em>Joy of Cooking</em></a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0767927478?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=c037-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325&#38;creativeASIN=0767927478"><em>Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone</em></a>. I went to the library and looked through books on every single &#8220;ethnic&#8221; cuisine. I went to farmers&#8217; markets and got acquainted with every vegetable.</p>


	<p>I would go to restaurants and think: &#8220;I want to make this at home.&#8221; And I had a knack for doing this. Now if you want to know how to make pad thai, you could go to the Internet. But back then, you&#8217;d be like, &#8220;What the heck is <em>in</em> this?&#8221;</p>


	<p><strong>The dishes I made from <i>Veganomicon</i> seemed both simpler and more flavorful than vegan food I&#8217;ve made from other cookbooks or have eaten at restaurants. How would you describe your cooking versus that of other vegan chefs?</strong></p>


	<p>There are two extremes in vegan cooking. One is everything [incorporates] prepackaged, high-sodium fake meats. The other is everything is kinda highfalutin, using weird ingredients most people don&#8217;t have around, like a particular kind of sherry vinegar. Or they&#8217;re really complicated restaurant recipes, like in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0898158990?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=c037-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325&#38;creativeASIN=0898158990"><em>The Millennium Cookbook</em></a>. I would say that our recipes are for the home cook, are <em>really</em> homemade, not semi-homemade, and it&#8217;s not food that started its life in a jar of chemicals. And it&#8217;s made with stuff you can find at most supermarkets.</p>


	<p><strong>What big things have you learned about vegan cooking while writing your three cookbooks?</strong></p>


	<p>You don&#8217;t need eggs. Before I wrote <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1569242739?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=c037-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325&#38;creativeASIN=1569242739"><em>Vegan Cupcakes Take Over the World</em></a>, I was always trying to work on egg replacers, and a lot of the time you don&#8217;t need them. The gluten from the flour works fine to hold things together.</p>


	<p><strong>Your recipes coax really intense flavor out of vegetables. What are some of the techniques you use to do this?</strong></p>


	<p>A lot of times vegans think they need to use 3 teaspoons of thyme and 4 tablespoons of cumin, and they <em>way</em> overflavor things. [Romero and I] are both into cooking vegetables so their flavor comes out. Roasting them goes a long way, as does grilling in a cast iron grill pan if you can&#8217;t use an outdoor grill. People worry because it gets really smoky, but that&#8217;s OK. Things like asparagus, zucchini, and eggplant are great grilled.</p>


	<p><strong>If somebody wants to go vegan, what would be your advice?</strong></p>


	<p>All the nutritional information is available online, like at the <a href="http://www.vrg.org/">Vegetarian Resource Group</a>. Or read the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1570671036?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=c037-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325&#38;creativeASIN=1570671036"><em>Becoming Vegan</em></a>. But I think the biggest thing is to read up on animal agriculture. If you become vegan for health reasons, it might not really stick. The only way it&#8217;ll stick is if you&#8217;re doing it for your own ethical reasons. Eventually your taste buds do catch up with your ethics. I didn&#8217;t think that I could live without blue cheese, and I&#8217;m doing fine. You don&#8217;t have to be perfect at first, but do what you can.</p>


	<p><strong>What&#8217;s next for you?</strong></p>


	<p>I&#8217;m working on opening a restaurant [in New York], which I hope to do by [this] summer. I&#8217;m doing a brunch book, and a cookie book. I try to donate my services to whatever I can, like <a href="http://www.woodstockfas.org/">Woodstock Farm Animal Sanctuary</a>. I did a big Thanksgiving for them for 300 people.</p>


	<p><strong>What&#8217;s the restaurant going to be like?</strong></p>


	<p>I have no idea&#8212;I&#8217;m not gonna jinx myself. I want it to be vegan, local cuisine that&#8217;s not incredibly expensive. I think a lot of people think vegan means it&#8217;s going to be $26 entrées or a <a href="http://www.bocaburger.com/">Boca Burger</a>, and I don&#8217;t want to do either of those. I want to do vegan home cooking. That&#8217;s pretty much it.</p>


	<p><i>Photo-illustration by <a href="http://www.wider-than-pictures.com/">Sean McCabe</a></p>


	<p>Lessley Anderson is senior editor at CHOW.</i></p>


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