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Conversation with a Cocktail EpicureWhy shaken, not stirred, and other secrets |
Alberta Straub, once described as “the Alice Waters of booze,” has been mixing up sublime adult beverages made with herbs, spices, and fresh fruits and vegetables for the past six years at San Francisco’s Orbit Room Café, a casual spot near the Mission District. Straub’s mixology has even attracted the attention of Pepsi, which tapped her to help come up with new flavors. In summer, Straub might shake up a hibiscus cooler. In winter, she may mix up something with lavender and cardamom. CHOW sat down at the Orbit Room bar and asked Straub how she does it.
What’s the deal with “the perfect martini”? Is it really all that hard to make?
That’s just a bunch of b.s., because anyone can make it. It needs to be cold, and not totally diluted, but other than that, it’s not that hard. It’s ridiculous when people say “martini” and don’t want vermouth in it! I like my martini with vermouth. Otherwise, it’s just cold alcohol.
Shaken or stirred?
Traditionally, clear beverages are stirred and others shaken. It has to do with dilution.
I’ve seen people ask you to put more booze in their drink because they can’t taste the alcohol. Should they be tasting it?
Usually the people who are saying that ordered some sugary-sweet drink like a mojito. I’ll tell them, “If you want to taste the alcohol, you should get a Manhattan or a martini!” I want there to be multifaceted flavors. In a cocktail that’s well made, you’ll taste different things at different times.
How do you do that?
Aperitifs. This is probably the only bar in the city that has Pimm’s and Campari in the speed rack. Also, I like to use cucumber, which adds bitterness, and ginger to add heat. I started making my own ginger sugar by simmering ginger all day with simple syrup. I really like bitter flavors, so I also make bitter sugar.
That’s the concoction in an unmarked bottle I see you using. How do you make bitter sugar?
I’ll first muddle sugar with leafy vegetable things, like mint and cucumber. This last bunch I tried using—what’s that red lettuce vegetable called that’s really bitter?
Radicchio?
Yeah, radicchio. I muddle those with sugar, and then I add the sugar to water and put in grapefruit slices, juniper berries, and elderberries. Typically you’d want to simmer that in a Crock-Pot, but we don’t have one, so I just put the pot on top of the toaster oven in the bar for a couple of days.
Haven’t you also used lavender?
Yes. I’ll find something that smells pungent and put it in the bitter sugar. But there’s a fine line between interesting and tasting like potpourri.
Have you ever made mistakes?
The most dangerous thing I did was when I started infusing my own vodka, and I filled the entire bottle up with jalapeños because they looked so nice. I almost gave a customer a heart attack!
I see you’re infusing some vodka now.
That’s for my Bloody Marys. It has fresh horseradish root, coriander, ancho chiles, bay leaves, and some lemon rind.
And you make your spice mix to dip the rim of the glass in.
We call that “edging.” It has ancho chile powder, garlic powder, black pepper, horseradish powder, sometimes cayenne…I just experiment.
What’s your favorite forgotten drink?
I brought the Aviation (a mixture of gin, maraschino cherry liqueur, and lemon juice) to the Orbit Room. I also really like the Negroni, equal parts gin, sweet vermouth, and Campari. Few bartenders know how to make it. I think they’re afraid of the vermouth. I had a customer who asked me to make a card for him to give to bartenders, telling them how to make the Negroni.
Sounds risky
I tried to think of how I could design it so that the bartender wouldn’t spit in his drink. Finally, I made him this card that looked like those cards that deaf people hand out on the subway. It started off saying, “Hello, Bartender. I’m a deaf cocktail snob.”
The Orbit Room Cafe 1900 Market Steet San Francisco, CA 94102 (415) 252-9525
Photograph by Paul Trapanni; hair and makeup by Lindsay Arnold/Koko































"It’s ridiculous when people say “martini” and don’t want vermouth in it! I like my martini with vermouth. Otherwise, it’s just cold alcohol."
Um....otherwise it it's just cold GIN!
ahhhhh Alberta. She really IS the Orbit Room.
Hallelujah that someone agrees that a big glass of gin is not an extra dry martini. Thank you.
Not shaking a clear drink isn't really for preventing dilution, it is more for not making the drink cloudy.
It's only 6.50 am otherwise I would be on my way to the orbit room right now. My two favourite drinks in the Speed Rack. Negronis. A negroni card! I WANT one, you should go into business selling them, Alberta.
why have I never been to the orbit room? I must make amends soon...
PS - Alberta - please tell me where you get elderberries round here? If you can get elderberries, it means you can get elderflowers and that means you can make elderflower 'champagne' and elderflower syrup which I simply HAVE to do next spring when they blossom.
I didn't think elderberries grew in the USA, this is exciting to me. Please can you share the elder scoop with me?
I have jars and jars of fresh cherries I preserved in a run of the mill California brandy. Unfortunately I did not include any sugar! They have been aging for about 2+ years. I opened a jar today. The cherries are firm, a dull color red, extremely strong tasting but the brandy is red in color and not that great tasting. I think the only use they have is in cocktails. Does anyone have any suggestions?
If your a is detectably sweet then in my book it is not a proper mojito.
Here is a 2002 post I made on this subject.
Link to thread of post, and text of Original post below:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/1432...
To me there is something kind of zen about the perfect mojito.
Ideally the combination of ingredients should balance perfectly so that no one taste, rum, mint, sweet, lime, overpowers.
It should just be one clean refreshing wet note that splashes into your mouth and with a slight gulp washes down your throat; wetness the only sensation.
They are too easy to drink. But somehow unlike sweet kid drinks that are so easy to get trashed on, I never need to drink so many mojitos that I am hammered.
To me a proper mojito is like the color wheel with all of the colors of the rainbow. If you paint the colors just right, when you spin the wheel you see perfect whiteness which is in fact the combination of all colors.
If you mix the mojito just right, you get perfect wetness, though the English term is not quite right.
A few summers back I went through quite a few bottles of Bacardi on my back porch perfecting my mojito technique. Somehow I was very popular that summer...
"So, uh, Aram, you gonna make any mojitos this weekend?"
The term mojito does not really translate directly from Spanish to English. I have attempted a few below, but none really do it justice:
- Little wet one.
- A little moisture.
- Dampness, refreshment, quenching, moisture, thirst be gone, aaahh.
For me, somehow, all of that is implied in the word mojito.