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fatty cue vs fette sau

Neither is particularly affordable, but as others have noted, you get much more meat for your 30+ bucks at Fette Sau than at Fatty 'Cue. That said, while Fette Sau's pork lineup is solid, I've never been too impressed with any of their beef offerings, save for the pastrami (they never seem to have beef cheeks available on my visits). The sausages are well-smoked, but I find the seasoning a bit too subtle for my taste.
Fatty Cue's rubs and marinades are far from subtle, but I think the smoked-in flavors they've come up with are wholly original and adventurous. It's not classic bbq by any means, and the sit-down service is inconsistent, but the smoking is still expertly executed. I've found that going for brunch is much more cost-effective, albeit the menu is limited. Also, the late night specials (banh mi, brisket sandwich, grilled cheese, fried duck, some sort of ribs, 11pm-2am Thurs-Sun) deliver a solid value.

Fette Sau
354 Metropolitan Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11211

Fatty 'Cue
91 S 6th St, Brooklyn, NY 11211

Aug 30, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs

Best burgers in East Village?

I'll vouch for the burger at Royale as well - not mind-blowing by any means, but it's as solid of a burger value as you'll find anywhere in the city, and the atmosphere is relatively comfortable as long as you avoid the latenight weekend fratastrophe on Avenue C. Corner Bistro is really the only other place that compares from a size and price perspective, and the flavor and consistency of the patty at Royale are far superior in my experience.

I love the burger at The Redhead. It's a bit more substantial than Royale's -- and substantially messier to boot -- though the place will likely be mobbed on a Saturday night just like everywhere else in the neighborhood. I'm also partial to the burger at Westville East and that at Veselka, though I'm not crazy about the Portuguese muffin bun at the former or the brusque service at the latter.

To put my opinions in perspective (something I think is crucial in any constructive burger discussion), I love a hearty pub/gourmet burger served perfectly medium rare (or occasionally just rare), a bun that's substantial enough to stand up to the meat while never distracting with its sweetness or size, snappy lettuce, crisp tomatoes, and a pickle or 2 for contrast. Cheddar and American cheese are both welcome, and a crusty-salty char is the fastest way to my heart (attack).

Enjoy your meat!

144 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

Westville East
173 Avenue A, New York, NY 10009

The Redhead
349 E 13th St, New York, NY 10003

Apr 26, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

Pies-N-Thighs reopens

I recently tried the brisket as well for the first time since their reopening, and I agree that the meat itself is moist and flavorful; I found it surprisingly tender, and the slice itself was hearty. I agree that the sauce (slathered on beneath a layer of mayo) was a tad sweet, probably because the homemade white bread it comes on already sports a subtly-sweet backbone of its own. I balanced it out with a few dabs of their hot sauce (essentially Frank's Redhot) and could not have been fatter, nor happier.

I will say my second go-round with the black-eyed peas was disappointing: less smoke, more vinegar, and a cloying sweet aftertaste to each bite. This side shone a few weeks back, but it did so thanks to a delicate balance between flavors that it failed to recapture this time. Also note that the price I reported on the Capt. Lawrence DIPA must have been a fleeting fancy of opening-week disorganization - it has since been marked up to $8.50 a bottle. Also, I believe the Chicken Box and Pulled Pork Box have risen to $11 each; the catfish is still 10 bucks.

Mar 31, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs

Fatty 'Cue - anyone been?

Long live Sunday pig dinners. What a wondrous pile of crisped, juicy pork shoulder! The mantou bread accompaniment made for 3 heaping buns, with a nice scattering of leftover bits and seared veggies to pick at. I loved the sharp pineapple curry dipping sauce. The whole meal felt like a bold, brave new flavor frontier, not the least of which came courtesy of the deceptively-dainty 'Cue house cocktail, each sip of which packaged distinct sweet, sour, smokey and spicy notes (Overproof rum, smoked pineapple, tabasco and Pernod topped off with a citrus disc). I usually scoff at fancy mixed drinks, but this was as memorable as anything I've ever tried.

I might as well book my ticket for fat camp right now.

Fatty 'Cue
91 S 6th St, Brooklyn, NY 11211

Mar 29, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs

Good place to catch the Final Four

Both places recommended so far look quite nice, and not prohibitively expensive, but for something a little less fancy, Standings on 7th Street in the East Village always does the trick for me -- divey atmosphere, but excellent selection of 10-15 rotating microbrews on draught for 6 bucks apiece. No bar menu, though they often offer free pizza or sausages during big sporting events, and they' have loads of menus from all around the EV so you can order food for delivery.

Every inch of wall is covered by TVs, and it can get a bit cozy, but it's as wholesome and down-to-earth as sports bars come - comparisons to a sports geek's paraphernalia-laden rec-room are pretty common, and accurate.

43 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

Mar 24, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

Review this San Francisco Hound's List!

Looks like a great itinerary! I'd say you'll be getting about as much fine-dining bang for your buck as NYC will allow.

Be aware that Xi'an Famous Foods offers no seating, so if you go make sure it's a nice enough day to allow for eating in one of the nearby parks (on either Essex or Chrystie/Forsyth).

Where will you be staying in Brooklyn? And will you be driving or taking public transit? Motorino and Roberta's are both in the Williamsburg/Bushwick area, while Franny's is down in Park Slope/Prospect Heights. Williamsburg isn't particularly easy to access from elsewhere in Brooklyn (though it's perhaps the most convenient BK neighborhood to get to from Manhattan), so geography may help you narrow your options.

Not all street carts are created equal, and most of the popular ones are in mid-town, so you may want to be strategic with your snacking. Or not. I'm sure a spontaneous bite or two from somewhere off the grid won't make or break your trip. Have fun! And Go A's!

349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

Mar 19, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

Review this San Francisco Hound's List!

Love the Perilla, Aldea, EMP and halal cart suggestions! And agreed re: ever-escalating prices at Ko.

I think the prix-fixe menus at Momofuku Noodle Bar are an outstanding value. Prices have gone down since they first started (3 course lunch menu: ~$20; 4 courses @ dinner: ~$30). Granted, it's a set menu that changes daily, so if you don't like what they're serving that day it's not a catch-all solution. Still, between one prix-fixe, an order of noodles and an order of pork buns, 2 people can get a broad sampling of Chang's versatility (the noodles being the least exciting but most-filling part of all this) for right around $25 pp before tax, tip, and drinks. The house sake is delicious and reasonable if you're into that sort of thing. Ssam bar also offers a prix-fixe at lunch, but I'm less familiar with it. Alternatively, an order of pork buns and a cup of soft-serve at Milk Bar can do the trick if you want to browse before diving in.

9 Jones Street, New York, NY 10014

Momofuku Noodle Bar
171 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

31 West 17th Street, New York, NY 10011

Mar 18, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

Review this San Francisco Hound's List!

Shake Shack may have a thin patty, but the quality of the ingredients and the harmony they achieve are pretty damn remarkable. And I'm a huge in-n-out fan (Oakland native myself, show Fruitvale some love for me!). Order a shackburger, ask for it rare (if that's your kind of thing), and see if you can taste the difference. It's a $5 risk, and the UWS location renders the wait-time less painful, though admittedly less picturesque.

Agreed about the slow-burn hit to your wallet at places like Casa Mono and Degustation. Lupa can be done relatively cheaply if you're just in it for a plate of pasta at a Batali joint, but a multi-course meal there will add up quickly. That said, if you can't get a reservation at Ko, the Degustation 10-course tasting menu is a wonderful (and less expensive) consolation prize - they essentially created the blueprint that Ko uses, albeit from a Spanish rather than an Asian culinary starting point.

A big YES to:
- Locanda Verde (try to get a brunch reservation)
- at least one of the Momofuku restaurants
- Motorino (lunch deal is awesome, particularly in BK).
- Spotted Pig (go during off-hours if possible)

Robertas is more interesting than Franny's.
Al Di La is often dazzling, but I find the seating uncomfortably crowded. Still worth it for the food/pricepoint.

The buffet at Charles' Pan-Fried Chicken serves the same chicken you'll find at Rack and Soul for significantly less, but entails a serious adventure into the northernmost stretch of Harlem. I think prices run $11 for lunch and $15 for dinner. The neighborhood is still rough around the edges, but there's some beautiful architecture to be seen on the walk up from the UWS.

The Sichuan food scene in NYC seems to be a bit more evolved than what you'll find out west - I'd recommend Szechuan Gourmet in midtown (not the Columbus Circle branch). Check this board for exhaustive reports on what to order depending on your spice tolerance.

Other Asian options you might not find in SF: Xi'an Famous Foods (anything with cumin, stir fried noodles rather than soups), Lan Zhou Handmade Noodles (order the Fried Porkchop Soup and the pan-fried dumplings. Please), and any of the 5-for-a-dollar Chinatown dumpling houses (I prefer Prosperity Dumpling; Vanessa's offers more options but less value). And Ippudo is porky-broth nirvana, as far as I'm concerned.

Depending on how burger-and-pizza-passionate you're feeling, I'd urge you to brave the wait for dinner at Lucali in all its old-Brooklyn warmth (byob, don't miss the calzone!), and I think Dumont serves the best burger in the city that doesn't have a Black Label rating attached to it (also, crazy lardon-laden mac-&-cheese!).

Yakitori Totto and Katz's might be nice options to round out a more diverse Manhattan itinerary. Also, the Southern Indian joints you'll find in Curry Hill are worth mentioning - dosas and vegetarian thalis are a refreshing change of pace from the heavier curries I remember from my Bay Area days. Saravanaah's, Dhaba, and Tiffin Wallah are all affordable ways to sample the style if you're unfamiliar.

Have you considered adding a street cart or two amongst your destinations?

170 Thompson Street, New York, NY 10012

81 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10016

Yakitori Totto
251 W 55th St, New York, NY 10019

Vanessa's Dumpling House
118 Eldridge St, New York, NY 10002

Charles' Country Pan-Fried Chicken
2837 8th Ave, New York, NY 10039

Tiffin Wallah
127 E 28th St, New York, NY 10016

Casa Mono
52 Irving Place, New York, NY 10003

Shake Shack
Madison Ave and E 23rd St, New York, NY 10010

Spotted Pig
314 W 11th St, New York, NY 10014

239 E 5th St, New York, NY 10003

Szechuan Gourmet
21 W 39th St, New York, NY 10018

Lam Zhou Handmade Noodle
144 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

Prosperity Dumpling
46 Eldridge St, New York, NY 10002

108 Lexington Avenue, New York, NY 10016

Shake Shack
366 Columbus Ave, New York, NY 10024

Locanda Verde
377 Greenwich St, New York, NY 10013

Szechuan Gourmet
244 W 56th St, New York, NY 10019

Xi'an Famous Foods
88 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

Mar 18, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

Good Eats at Lorimer + Metropolitan in Williamsburg?

Um, Motorino is just 3 blocks East on Graham Ave at Devoe. Does anyone know if the Brooklyn location is still offering the lunchtime special? For awhile there $10 got you a choice of pies and either a salad or soft-serve dessert. The EV location charged $12 - either way it was an insane value.

Mar 09, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs

Pies-N-Thighs reopens

I usually pass by the new space a few times each day, and only once since their re-opening have I seen a line that would discourage me from ordering. They're far enough from the Bedford Ave foot traffic that I think crowds won't be too much of a problem outside of prime mealtimes. Try visiting during off-hours if you don't want to take any chances. Last night from 9-10pm there was hardly any wait, and the seating areas - while lively enough - were far from reaching capacity.

Mar 09, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs

Peter Luger for the first time

For awhile I recall that the porterhouse was only available for parties that had made reservations. Can anyone confirm whether or not this is still the case? Either way I'd recommend calling for a reservation.

Mar 03, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs

The Vanderbit ripping off The Wing Bar

Dumont Burger gets credit for helping me gain ten highly artful pounds this winter.

Mar 03, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs

Pies-N-Thighs reopens

They're baaaaa-aaaack. I love all the crazy hype they've generated, and I love their ability to live up to it. 2 trips in 2 days, and I'm eager to keep the streak alive.
Some notes:

- The cozy charm is still intact, as are the crisp, flavorful pieces of chicken, the buttery biscuits, and the reasonable prices.
- The pork-laden collard greens were always my favorite side at the Pies & Thies of old, and they're still stellar. Couldn't remember how I felt about the spicy black-eyed peas, so I took them for a test drive and they won me over as well - smokey, zesty, with just a hint of refreshing bite here and there (it's a cold side, fyi).
- The Big Salad was crisp and pleasant enough -- beet strings and marinated carrot shards, half an avocado and a hard-boiled egg on a bed of iceberg lettuce -- but I'll find it hard to justify making another meal out of rabbit food when the chicken, catfish, and pulled pork boxes are all available at the same price. I will say that the hearty house-baked multi-grain bread that accompanied my salad was memorably nutty and dense, with plenty of bright, sweet notes to remind you of its freshness.
- The expanded menu includes a burger ($8; cheese, bacon & egg all extra) and the brisket sandwich ($12) that they used to feature as a special. I'm eager to hear reports about the burger. Reports from my tongue and belly.
- BEER! I had a Captain Lawrence Double IPA while I waited for takeout. At $5 for a 16oz bottle, it was hard to say no. They appear to have at least one beer on tap, and a few additional bottles (Coors Light, some sort of Pale Ale).
- Be sure to check out the separate seating area in back - it's much calmer than what you'll find up front.
- Service was a bit scattered (register issues, slow ordering process, long snaking line gumming up the front seating area), but all that is forgivable in a brand new space. They care about their food, deeply, as I feel they always have. I'm so glad to have 'Thighs back in my life.

Mar 03, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs


1. Dumont's burger, Rare, w/Cheddar and a side of Fried Pickles
2. Lucali's calzone filled with anything as long as it includes garlic inside and basil on top.
3. Al Di La's malfatti
4. Fried Chicken Box with buttermilk biscuit and collard greens from Pies & Thies (Fat Camp, here I come again)
5. Eggs Rothko from Egg

Honorable Mentions from not-quite-restaurants:

A) Hand-pressed huarache from the Red Hook vendors
B) Banh Mi from Ba Xuyen
C) Cold Noodles with crispy meat sauce from Yunnan Flavour Snack Shop
D) Slice at DiFara's (eating in rarely strikes me as a viable option there)
E) Ah, what the hell, I'm cheating anyway. Luger porterhouse with bacon side and Dumont's Dumac & Cheese.

Mar 02, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs

Excellent fish & chips or similar bar grub near midtown?

Well, Molly's meets your criteria if you're willing to take the N/R/W down to Gramercy and walk a few blocks East. They serve perhaps the best pub-style burger in the city along with some solid fish and chips, there's warmth and old-timey atmosphere to spare, plus they pour a helluva pint of Guinness. Not necessarily ideal if you're looking for a lengthy selection of microbrews, but it's a standout NYC institution by all accounts.

Then again, the East Village and West Village are so readily accessible from Times Square (2-3 stops via express train; 4-6 stops via local) that it seems sort of arbitrary to exclude those neighborhoods if you're willing to hop on the subway.

The rest of your itinerary looks promising - have a terrific trip!

Feb 24, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

Special Dishes, Secret Prices

Diner was precisely the example that came to mind when I saw this headline. And yes, the "soothing" experience of having that server cozy up in your booth to write one-word descriptions of each mysteriously priced special often veers into pretentious territory. Thanks for highlighting this frustrating quirk.

Diner was pleasantly affordable up until about 3 years ago. I applaud the way they embraced responsible end-to-end ingredient sourcing long before many NYC restaurants caught on, but there are significant costs associated with doing so, and their menu prices quietly shot skywards. If an entree is going to cost significantly more than $20 at such a casual establishment, it's deceptive to hide such prices from customers until the check arrives.
The food is often well worth it, and they're obviously not driving away clientele in this ever-gentrifying neighborhood, but having to constantly inquire about prices actually detracts from the "romance" between me and all those elusive-but-adorable hipster servers.

Feb 17, 2010
CalJack in Features

valentines day in williamsburg area

Mercat Negre - it's about 10 blocks south, but the deftly-executed small plates and wine-cellar-like atmosphere are well worth the trip if you're looking for something romantic and memorable. Also, it's not likely to be totally swamped on Valentine's Day given it's off-the-beaten path address.

Note that Miranda is fine as long as geographical convenience is your primary concern

Feb 12, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs

In New York for a week — did I pick restaurants well?

Definitely do not dismiss Momofuku. I hadn't been to Noodle Bar for nearly two years after a harried experience in the old location before Ko had opened, but I finally returned last weekend and enjoyed one of the most satisfying meals I've had in Manhattan for years. I loved Noodle Bar when it first opened, but had convinced myself that Ssam Bar and Ko were where I ought devote my allegiances after sensing that execution had slipped at Noodle Bar in light of the emperor's new (and admittedly impressive) wardrobe. But my latest trip (I ordered the $30 4-course prix-fixe, which was an absolute steal and a new option since my previous visits) demonstrated a startling balance in each of my dishes, with complementary and contrasting flavors leaving me grinning time and again throughout the night. If you want ramen, by all means go to Ippudo as it's indisputably the best in the city; but if you want inspired, affordable, intense flavors, I cannot recommend anywhere more highly than Momofuku Noodle Bar. I was prepared to grit my teeth and endure a cloying experience at an overhyped place long past its prime, but my glowing memories from earlier years couldn't have been more pleasantly reaffirmed.

I will admit that weekend nights are a crazy hassle - do yourself a favor and go for lunch.

Also, do yourself a favor and go to Degustation - each meal there feels more intimate and well-executed than the last.

Feb 12, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

In New York for a week — did I pick restaurants well?

I've been to Joe Doe for happy hour drinks and appetizers that spilled over into dinner. The food is interesting - at times inspired - and the cocktails were memorable (a tequila drink adorned with chilled honey and Old Bay won me over). That said, the space is tiny, the service and staff a bit aloof and off-putting, and the owner's reputation obviously notorious. I paid happy hour prices when I visited, and paying more would have left me feeling cheated.

I think you'd do better hitting Locanda Verde for brunch if you can still swing a reservation, or run with any place kathryn endorses as she truly has condensed Manhattan's overwhelming brunch options into the most reliable set of recommendations I've ever seen.

Feb 12, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

In New York for a week — did I pick restaurants well? (Brooklyn Edition)

These are terrific recommendations! Based on your initial list I'm assuming you're here for meat and beer. Definitely stop by Bierkraft and Spuyten Duyvil - you've nailed the two most interesting beer purveyors in the borough. Seeing as this will mean a trip to Park Slope and one to Williamsburg , I'd recommend considering the following restaurants in/around each neighborhood:

Park Slope:
--- Al Di La (Cozy, immaculate Piedmontese Italian; I prefer it to Frankie's 457 if Italian's on the agenda, though it's tough to go wrong at either place)
--- Applewood (Seconded for their refined-yet-approachable market-fresh creations and neighborly atmosphere)
--- Beer Table (Eccentric beer selection from a wonderful, warm family operation. Check to see which nights they're serving food, and to what extent)

---Fette Sau (The borough's best bbq; fabulous fatty high notes, but also occasional misses, so search these boards to see which a la carte items appeal to you most; wondrous bourbon list and interesting beer from the folks at Spuyten Duyvil across the street)
--- Dumont or Dumont Burger (I heartily second Peter's recommendation, but I actually find the service to be the only drawback; either way, the burger and the mac & cheese are top-notch)
--- Diner or Marlow & Sons (Sibling restaurants, each perfectly capturing the neighborhood aesthetic while packaging innovative, inspiring flavors in hearty, constantly-rotating seasonal specials)
--- Peter Luger (Simply put, skipping this would be inexcusable for a steak lover. Get the bacon too.)
--- Egg (If you dare brave the brunch crowds, the Eggs Rothko is a revelation, and the rich Southern fare is as comforting as it gets. Absurdly affordable given the quality. Go later in the afternoon to beat the rush and take advantage of the mixed lunch/brunch menu, or better yet go for breakfast on a weekday)

I like Bark, though the dogs veer a bit too close to haute territory for many purists. The super-reasonably priced beer from Sixpoint brewery helps to compensate.
Haven't been to Rye yet, but I've heard good things.
If you can make it to Lucali and don't mind the wait, call ahead to put your name down, bring your own bottle of wine or growler of beer, and don't forget to order a calzone alongside your pie. It's a unique, transporting experience.
Honestly, you won't go wrong with any of the recommendations I've seen so far on this thread. Enjoy your visit!

Feb 12, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs

Xi'an Famous Foods Opens Up Chinatown Branch A Week From Saturday

Just thought I'd point out that they are getting ridiculously swamped around prime mealtimes, with waits running as long as 30-40 minutes from the time I've shown up. I guess that's par for the course given all the attention they've been receiving. It's inconvenient, but my romance with the food remains intact, with the following notes and caveats:

- whereas the broth in their soups started out sharp and complex, it has been a bit murky and gamey of late at the new location, to the point that I find it dulls and detracts from the flavors of the other ingredients

- the cumin lamb noodles remain a knockout dish; I've also enjoyed the Mount Qui noodles for a spicy-sour variation, and the Zha-Jiang noodles when I'm craving a richer soy-heavy bite.

- the thick, uneven hand-stretched noodles here might be unique within manhattan chinatown. The closest comparison I can come up with is the knife-shaved noodles offered at a few shops, but the soft-yet-springy texture of Xi'an's noodles truly stands out.

- the meat quality is often hit or miss, particularly with non-stewed lamb and beef dishes. Don't order these if you're squeamish about fat and occasional gristle.

- the tiger vegetables are an all-out spice assault.

- the chang-an tofu dish adds some interesting depth to the usual ginger syrup dofu-hua preparation. The prominent chili oil and notes of sesame make it almost too rich for my tastes (I've always enjoyed how light this dish seemed in comparison to similarly-textured custards in other cuisines). Almost.

Feb 05, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

Lesser-known delights of NY Noodletown?

Has anyone ever ordered the shredded chicken w/peashoots or the roast duck w/peashoots? Is there any reason that this would be preferable to ordering the items a la carte? Any significant variation in the way they're presented or prepared? (price difference appears negligible)

Feb 05, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

Lesser-known delights of NY Noodletown?

I find the singapore chow fun superior to the mei (mai?) fun. And I'll endorse the Salt and Pepper squid as well.

Feb 05, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

Rhong Tiam/Kurve

I've been ordering takeout from Kurve for the past 2 years ever since they began ambiguously advertising themselves as Rhong Tiam's East Village delivery outpost. Though I couldn't fathom enjoying a meal within that space-station interior (at least not without a sleek unitard and some seriously angular cheekbones), the food has yet to disappoint me.

Pork on Fire and drunken noodles are my usual standbys, so I can't speak to the khao soi noodles directly; however, every dish I've had compared favorably with the standards I'd come to expect at Kurve's earthbound (and now buried) West Village counterpart..

Feb 02, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

Jiangsiu Food (including Shanghai) - some of the best around

Great recommendation! Perhaps this belongs on the Outer Boroughs board given its Flushing address?

Jan 25, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs

Think There's A New Hand Pulled Noodle Place in Chinatown

If we're talking about the same place (bright new purplish lighted sign, just 2-3 storefronts South of Canal on the East side of Forsyth), then I believe the old name may have been Far Eastern Noodles - the address was 28 Forsyth Street. Looked bright and busy yesterday evening, but I didn't go in.
Line was well out the door at Xi'an around 7pm; wait for food was more than half an hour all told. And still totally worth it. I think Sifton gave them a much-deserved favorable mention this week, so the long waits may be here to stay.

Jan 21, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

Where should I bring a food lover visiting Brooklyn?

If you don't mind venturing down to the southside of williamsburg, brunch at Diner offers a nice glimpse of *new brooklyn* - the diffident hipster vibe is of course palpable, though not detrimentally so, imo.

I'd second recommendations for Al Di La, Applewood, Franny's, and Marlow & Sons, but again these are all more aligned with Brooklyn's recent gentrification than with the neighborhood's traditional roots. For a hint of South Brooklyn neighborhood warmth, Lucali is absolutely worth the trip (G service be damned), but get there before 6:15 and/or call ahead to put your name on the list and get an idea of the wait. Likewise with Di Fara, but the setting is much less inviting if you're planning to eat in.

Given that a "fun bar" is about as subjective of a classification as you'll find from one person to the next, take the following recommendations with a healthy dose of follow-up research:
- Lucky Dog (great draught beer selection, free shuffleboard)
- Larry Lawrence (lively late night scene, stunning design)
- The Woods (bonus points for the authentic Mexican food cart in the backyard
- Diamond Bar (seconded)

Elsewhere in Brooklyn:
- Bar Great Harry (Cobble Hill/Carrol Gardens)
- Floyd (Cobble Hill, indoor Bocce)
- Sunny's (Red Hook, and only if you're willing to go to the ends of the Earth/ends of the B61-B62 line for a truly raucous time).

Hope this helps more than it hurts.

EDIT - just saw dhs' recommendation for Diner above, and I agree, in case that's not obvious.

575 Henry St, Brooklyn, NY 11231

Al Di La
248 5th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11215

Marlow & Sons
81 Broadway, Brooklyn, NY 11211

501 11th St, Brooklyn, NY 11215

Larry Lawrence
295 Grand St, Brooklyn, NY 11211

Bar Great Harry
280 Smith St, Brooklyn, NY 11231

Jan 18, 2010
CalJack in Outer Boroughs

Best Sports Bar near McSorleys

Long live Standings! Even if you don't stay there all afternoon, make sure to stop by for a beer and experience one of the quirkiest, most unapologetically sports-geeky bars in NYC. Don't miss it - it's just a half block East of McSorley's on 7th St.

McSorley's Old Ale House
15 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

43 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

Jan 12, 2010
CalJack in Manhattan

Xi'an Famous Foods Opens Up Chinatown Branch A Week From Saturday

The building complex may be 88 East Broadway, but the Xi'an Famous Eats storefront is located on Forsyth between East Broadway and Division - it's still part of the same building, but it's around the corner from the main entrance at 88 East Broadway. The sign is highly visible from the street, and the all-glass exterior gives you a direct view into the action.
Hope you'll take another crack at finding this place FrankieLymon - I think it's among the most exciting additions to Manhattan Chinatown in years.

Xi'an Famous Foods
88 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

Dec 24, 2009
CalJack in Manhattan

Good Chinese in East 20s

Great pics Bob! Now I'm hungry! What's the predominant flavor in the szechuan lamb dish? Is it a cumin-heavy preparation like you'll find at most of the city's sichuan restaurants? If so, which restaurant's style does it most closely resemble?

I can't say no to a flavor-packed basil chicken dish. In fact, I think I'll be saying yes to the one at Chinese Mirch the next time I'm in the neighborhood.

Dec 17, 2009
CalJack in Manhattan