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Surprisingly disappointed at Katz's

I regret that I can't make out the last responses, because they're skewing so far left on the screen.

But I'll add, apropos of Just Visiting, that I completely did understand the potential problem with the sandwiches, but I felt at that speed they only had one slicer, which is not what I would have expected from Katz. Also, if that had been the only problem, I probably wouldn't have mentioned it. But the very simple things - that they shouldn't have waited until the lunch was essentially over to distribute cans of soda - all started to add up to a bad overall experience.

Funny about the idea of people bringing their own bread. I thought the bread was a let-down, to say the least, but I figured that's likely a matter of taste.

Jul 11, 2015
Lady Grey in Manhattan

Pointing out a basic problem with the site design

I'm hoping that the staff will look at this apt illustration with the end of this thread:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/1018...

The thread - on my computer, at least - edges farther and farther right, with a narrower and narrower column, until it's completely illegible.

There is some wasted space by positioning the poster's image exactly where it is on the left, but the main problem is that for some reason you've choose to allow the forum text less than half the width of the screen. This is a more extreme example than I've seen anywhere in other forums, and pretty bad.

Jul 11, 2015
Lady Grey in Site Talk

Surprisingly disappointed at Katz's

LOL. No, we were very civilized. No stampeding. Just a couple of us getting frustrated.

Sorry, I have no idea why people here thought that we just barged in, and I'm sorry if I gave you that impression. It was all arranged - and presumably prepaid - in advance.

Jul 04, 2015
Lady Grey in Manhattan

Surprisingly disappointed at Katz's

Sorry, I don't know how I conveyed the idea that people just showed up. This was booked in advance, taking advantage of the nice suggestion of the space in the L off the main room. That the guest list mushroomed was one idea that other possibilities were abandoned. But I know that Katz had a fairly accurate count, because they had pushed individual tables together to form the long tables, and they were set beforehand with the small plates - and now that I think of it, I believe it was one dish of pickles for 8 people and one pitcher of water for 16 people.

That's why I couldn't understand why they hadn't revved up a it in advance. For instance, since they serve sold drinks in cans, why didn't they come around in the beginning with a little cart?

Jul 04, 2015
Lady Grey in Manhattan

Surprisingly disappointed at Katz's

A friend of mine came to NYC and planned a big birthday brunch at a deli, and, after some thoughtful suggestions here, I ended up recommending Katz's, in large part because the forum told me that they had a back corner that was somewhat private. I'd never been, and was really looking forward to it. Stunningly disappointed, as an overall experience.

There were 50 or more of us, but the staff acted as if they were completely flummoxed. They began by yelling out "Who wants pastrami?" And wrote down numbers. "Who wants corned beef?" Noted numbers. And then brisket and turkey. After a wait of what was probably 20+ minutes, one or two guys appeared with trays with turkey half-sandwiches (no plates). A few people put one on their own tiny plate. Then another long wait for brisket. And so on. I think it was likely around 40 minutes until they got to pastrami. What, they only have one slicer? They weren't ready for a crowd, even though they knew in advance? They couldn't have regular-sized plates?

After the meager half-sandwiches were gone - well, they weren't literally meager, but meager compared to what I would have expected - a guy came around yelling "Anyone want cole slaw?" Long after that, it occurred to someone to come around and ask if anyone wanted drinks. We asked for things that never arrived, like more pickles (obviously we were all chomping on pickles during the frustrating wait for sandwiches).

And, yeah, the pastrami was okay, but nothing mind-blowing. I don't eat it often enough to have a finally nuanced opinion, but it's not my impression of being the greatest pastrami I've ever had in my life.

Jul 02, 2015
Lady Grey in Manhattan

The end of food? Remember Soylent Green?

Fascinating and somewhat creepy.

The End of Food
Has a tech entrepreneur come up with a product to replace our meals?
By Lizzie Widdecombe
The New Yorker

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/201...

Jun 22, 2015
Lady Grey in Food Media & News

Your thoughts about a party at a deli

Omigod, Ttrockwood, that didn't occur to me, but you may well be right. I had in fact been thinking about the mechanics of taking orders for so many people. What a letdown that would be, but it would make sense because the host is very frugal.
(Sigh)
If I could afford to buy Katz pastrami, I wouldn't be so interestedly anticipating this brunch.

Jun 20, 2015
Lady Grey in Manhattan

Pondering silverware...

Sterling silver flatware, I mean.

I'm not using what I have, would like to sell it, but am not finding good ideas. I know there are options like Replacements, that buy for very little, but then sell at high prices, which isn't a great way to go. And I don't do Ebay.

Any other suggestions of stores, online forums, buying/selling sites?

Jun 19, 2015
Lady Grey in Cookware

Your thoughts about a party at a deli

Wanted to post a thank-you. Went back and forth with the host on this for weeks. I thought Second Avenue was pleasantest, but it turned out to be a larger party than had been implied, and they couldn't handle it. It's now at Katz (and thank you to Zaza for pointing out the around-the-corner space) for 50 people, which I imagine will cost a fortune.

My current dilemma is that it will be earlier than I expected, at 10:30, and what I really want is a pastrami sandwich, but that seems peculiar at that hour. I want the pastrami overload, not just eggs-and-pastrami. :(

Anyway, looking forward to the experience.

Jun 19, 2015
Lady Grey in Manhattan
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Mrs. Alfred Hitchcock in the kitchen

I can see that your mind works like mine, Echo. The writing was shallow and relatively dull, just the daughter writing glowingly about the supposedly perfect family. But the really sad part was that although Alma Reville's life was probably terrific by her own standards or society's, the book makes it sound as if she never had an astute idea nor made an amusing remark in her entire life.

Jun 04, 2015
Lady Grey in Home Cooking

Mrs. Alfred Hitchcock in the kitchen

I've just been reading a dismal biography of Alma Reville, wife of director Alfred Hitchcock. Besides being Hitchcock's closest collaborator, she was also highly praised as a great cook. Okay, I'm not impressed by the recipes included at the end but, well, maybe it was a 1950s sensibility.

But I thought I'd share one of the better-sounding ones:

Poulet a la Vallee D'Auges

Two 3-pound broiler chickens, cut into pieces
Salt and peper
1/4 pound butter
4 tablespoons Calvados or applejack brandy
5-6 shallots, finely chopped
1 tablespoon chopped parsley
1/4 teaspoon dried thyme
1/2 cup white wine
1/2 cup heavy cream

Salt and pepper the chicken, and brown in butter. Cook for 15 on lower heat, turning occasionally. Add the Calvados/brandy, light it, and shake the pan while the flames die down. Add shallots,parsley, thyme, and wine. Cover and cook until chicken is tender. Remove chicken to heated platter. Add cream to pan, heat, and pour over chicken.

And this menu for a dinner for Tippi Hendren's birthday in 1963:

Mushroom appetizer
Cheese rolls

Pate maison
Turtle soup
Cheese straws
Filets of sole Meuniere
Watercress rolls
Stripper of beef
Small roast potatoes
String beans

Strawberries in pineapple
English cream
Birthday Duke of Windsor
Peach cup

Ah Fong resturant in Hollywood

I think that at one point my family was renting a room to Benson!

Apr 15, 2015
Lady Grey in Home Cooking

Your thoughts about a party at a deli

Thank you all very much.

Okay, so based on your comments, especially the news that Katz does in fact have table service and can possibly tuck them away in a slightly more private corner, I think I'll suggest that.

Zaza, you're right that Second Avenue has a better location, but I think most of the people will be coming from outside Manhattan anyway. It's not a matter of skipping the pastrami "this time" with Second Avenue - this is a one-time event. And, for the question about "my" price range, it's not my party and, most irritatingly, I will probably not even be invited! Hmpf!

Apr 15, 2015
Lady Grey in Manhattan

1 night this visit: Modern, Gramercy Tavern or ?

I'd pick GT over Modern, personally.

Apr 13, 2015
Lady Grey in Manhattan
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Try unsuccessfully to clean Copco Dutch oven

I actually did try a search but didn't see anything that looked specifically like my question.

My god, your method sounds kind of frightening.

Apr 13, 2015
Lady Grey in Cookware

Your thoughts about a party at a deli

A had a call from a friend, coming to NYC and thinking of having a little family party at a Jewish deli. He asked my opinion of Katz vs. Second Avenue Deli. Personally, I haven't eaten at either one. I know Katz is considered tops, and I once went there, but was so irked at their prices that I stalked out. But my recollection was that it was one large room, possibly without table service (I think you had to go up to the counter to order), so to my mind not a party-isn place.

Any ideas, any other suggestions? What's Barney Greengrass like? I'm guessing the party would be somewhere between 8-15 people, and at least one of them is older and hard of hearing. Do any delis have small private rooms?

Apr 13, 2015
Lady Grey in Manhattan

Reading about JoMart candy

Thanks, guys. I'll keep it in mind as the weather gets warmer.

And thank you for your suggestions, Sabra. I'd be coming from Manhattan, on foot, and I'd absolutely love to take in other places on my expedition. I've never been to DiFara, and I'd be tempted to overcome my aversion to spending substantial money on pizza, but I assume there are always lines. I avoid lines like the plague. But maybe I'll look at a map.

Apr 11, 2015
Lady Grey in Outer Boroughs

Try unsuccessfully to clean Copco Dutch oven

I have a lovely cream-colored Dutch oven by Copco - possibly the only cookware item that I'm really happy to own. But I recently cooked something in it and can't get it clean. Or can't get it to look clean. It's completely smooth to the touch - no bits of leftover food on it. But it's got all kinds of brown stains, and I can't figure out why, nor how to remove them.

I'm assuming I shouldn't scrub with anything abrasive, right?

Apr 11, 2015
Lady Grey in Cookware

Reading about JoMart candy

I was reading an old article about the family Jo Mart candy store in Brooklyn and wondered, is it worth a trip? Has anyone been there?

Mar 27, 2015
Lady Grey in Outer Boroughs

Ever had "Good African Coffee"?

Gee, thanks, that's so nice to hear.

Feb 27, 2015
Lady Grey in General Topics

Ever had "Good African Coffee"?

A few years ago, I read an interesting article about this, and I wondered if this guy had any success. I don't buy coffee, but I couldn't help but root for him. Wondered if anyone had ever tried it?

Here's the article, if you're curious:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/mag...

Feb 23, 2015
Lady Grey in General Topics

Saltwater taffy, by the pound

I sometimes buy saltwater taffy elsewhere and bring back a pound or two, but never see it here in NYC. It's handy as an inexpensive gift, certainly less expensive than decent boxed candy, and kind of festive. Is it sold anywhere in town?

Dec 20, 2014
Lady Grey in Manhattan

Anyone else FED UP with Bountiful Baskets?

Since you say that they don't answer emails, have you contacted either the city departments where they should be registered, or the BBB to get a telephoned number?

Aug 28, 2014
Lady Grey in Phoenix

A weekend with conservatives

Funny, when I saw your title line about "conservatives," I immediately thought, "Well, steak!"

Aug 22, 2014
Lady Grey in Manhattan

Could you de-construct this recipe for me?

Sorry, do you mean, yes I could use regular milk, or yes it would be a problem? I'm not sure what you mean by "either milks." Obviously the almond milk must be okay. But I was wondering about, for instance, non-fat milk.

And what if it wasn't overnight, but just cooled a bit?

Aug 22, 2014
Lady Grey in Home Cooking

Gotham/Gramercy Tavern/Annisa/Union Square cafe - which one this time?

I'd go for the Gramercy Tavern. I've never been that crazy about Union Square Cafe.

Aug 19, 2014
Lady Grey in Manhattan

Could you de-construct this recipe for me?

Found this in a magazine, and I'm intrigued, but wondering if I could transform it into something I'd actually make.

Chilled Plum-Oatmeal Pudding

1/2 cup old-fashioned rolled oats
1 cup unsweetened almond milk
Pinch of coarse salt
2 teaspoons pure maple syrup
1 plum, pitted and chopped
Pinch of ground cinnamon

Combine oats, 3/4 cup each almond milk and water, and salt in a saucepan. Bring to a boil; reduce heat. Simmer until oats are tender, about 4 minutes. Transfer to a bowl; let cool slightly. Stir in remaining 1/4 cup almond milk and 1 teaspoon maple syrup; chill overnight.

Toss plum, remaining 1 teaspoon maple syrup, and cinnamon in a bowl. Let stand 5 minutes. Serve oatmeal topped with fruit and accumulated juices.

- - - - - - - -

For starters, do you think I could use real milk? Or would something like the fat content be a problem?

Do you think something magical happens to it overnight, or could it just cool briefly?

Aug 19, 2014
Lady Grey in Home Cooking

Nice crunchy insect?

Are you ready to start snacking on insects yet? I fear I'm not that adventurous.

Jiminy Cricket! Bugs Could Be Next Food Craze!
By Claire Martin
New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/03/bus...

Aug 06, 2014
Lady Grey in Food Media & News

Notice the marked deterioration of East Village Cheese?

Thanks, I do remember the Ideal name. I should take a look.

Jun 17, 2014
Lady Grey in Manhattan

Notice the marked deterioration of East Village Cheese?

Yes, the original creator was very interested in cheap food, including markdowns.

Jun 17, 2014
Lady Grey in Manhattan