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Blackbird's Bar in Astoria

Agreed. The burger isn't outstanding but is something I look forward to; my boyfriend always gets the Niagara. Skip the weird pizza thing, though. Good for watching the game; friendly service--I'll probably be there myself over the next few days! Either there or Cronin & Phelan.

Oct 28, 2009
plumerai in Outer Boroughs

disappointing meal at Stamatis! where's the real Greek food in Astoria?

The consensus here is good: Agnanti, Philoxenia, S'Agapo, Kyclades. Philoxenia is my favorite of the bunch, but that's just personal preference. You can always ask the server what's best--they'll know what the restaurant specializes in, so you're not ordering a seafood dish from a restaurant where the meat really shines, for example.

Dec 15, 2008
plumerai in Outer Boroughs

Watershed, Wisteria, Restaurant Eugene, or Rathbun's?

I'm going to be in Atlanta for one night (well, two, but someone else is picking the dinner for the other night and I trust her judgment). Research on here and elsewhere has guided me toward these four (nobody on here seems to like Rathbun's, but I've heard good things elsewhere). I'm looking for food that I couldn't get outside of the region--local ingredients, "new Southern," that sort of thing.

I don't know if there's any Atlanta/Savannah crossover of chowhounds here but something akin to Elizabeth's on 37th (where I was guided by Savannah chowhounds, thank you!) would be what I'm after, though it doesn't have to be upscale to hit the spot.

What say you?

Wilber's and Skylight / Charleston / St. Helena Island / Savannah reviews

First off, thank you to everyone who responded to my initial query about Savannah dining, and a thank-you to those who had posted such wonderful tips on the entire region--these posts guided me well!

WILBER'S BBQ, Goldsboro, NC: I had the BBQ plate with green beans, potato salad, and hush puppies. The BBQ was very good--spicy, vinegary, not as smoky as I would have liked but as a Yankee I feel I have no right to comment! The hush puppies were perfectly fried, and the potato salad was nice and mustardy just like I like it.

HANK'S, Charleston: I just ate at the bar and had the she-crab soup and a Palmetto Amber Ale. I don't know what she-crab soup is "supposed" to taste like but what I ate was delicious--rich, creamy, mild, well balanced.

PENINSULA GRILL, Charleston: The famed coconut cake is, indeed, all that.

HOMINY GRILL, Charleston: The shrimp and grits breakfast was delicious--they drizzled some sort of hot oil over the shrimp, grits, bacon, peppers, and mushrooms, to perfection! I'm clearly not the only one who thought so--Anthony Bourdain walked in during my meal. (I had shrimp and grits for dinner at Bistro Savannah and far preferred this version; it was prepared with less flash and more love.)

JESTINE'S, Charleston: Just the Coca-Cola cake to go. I've never had Coca-Cola cake before so I have nothing to compare it to, but this was scrumptious--caramely, dense, chewy, yum!

GULLAH GRUB, St. Helena Island: Fish chowder in a tomato base, cornbread, salad, and "swampwater," which I suspect was an Arnold Palmer and was wonderfully refreshing. The chowder was full and rich without being too heavy, the cornbread was moist, the salad was fresh. The Gullah woman sitting out front weaving baskets said she'd never had the fish chowder because she couldn't make herself order anything other than their crab soup. It was a relaxing meal--very open and sunny room. This was a sleeper hit of a meal--one of the only restaurants on the island that I saw, and I'm glad I went. I talked to a couple of other patrons, one of whom is from the area and Gullah; she said that this was one of the more authentic places serving Gullah food and that she came there to be reminded of what she ate growing up. It's right off the main road coming onto the island, at the "four corners."

PLANTERS TAVERN (Olde Pink House), Savannah: I went for the atmosphere more than the food as reviews here were so-so, and the food was indeed so-so. Crab cake with remoulade and fried green tomatoes--good but not transcendent.

MRS. WILKES, Savannah: Delicious! I try not to eat at places that tour buses stop but I figured I should have at least one classic southern meal, and I'm glad I did. Just darn good food, especially those incredible sweet potatoes.

ELIZABETH'S ON 37th, Savannah: Sapelo Island clams in a broth of Vidalia onions, country ham, and rosemary, with cornbread madeleines; snapper fillet with beef reduction and an Asiago crust, shredded potatoes, brussel sprout hash; cream cake with strawberry-rhubarb creme anglaise. They also brought out some tasting items, mussels with an ale-chipotle sauce, a Thai-style shrimp soup, and several nice wines. This was one of the best meals of my life, particularly the clam appetizer. The chef and waitstaff clearly know how to make a meal "sing"--every ingredient was perfectly in harmony with all the others, and the whole affair was perfectly timed. I was dining by myself and particularly appreciated that the waitstaff took excellent care of me (some places give solo diners a snub). Just a wonderful experience all around.

QUEENY'S, Savannah: BBQ plate with okra and tomatoes and mac & cheese. Solid on all counts, nothing incredible but a nice change from the beaten path; I'd go again.

BISTRO SAVANNAH, Savannah: Southern fried quail with Andouille spoonbread and fruit compote, shrimp and grits with tasso ham and fried leeks. I got a kick out of the fried quail--the dish came together nicely and it was, well...cute! The shrimp entree was good but a little greasy, and not as good as what I had at Hominy Grill. Maybe I didn't order well or maybe anything after Elizabeth's would be a letdown, but I wasn't terribly impressed, though there was nothing wrong with my meal. It just never made me say Wow.

SKYLIGHT INN, Ayden, NC: BBQ with cornbread and slaw. It's rare that I'm not just a teensy bit disappointed by something that's supposed to be legendary, and lucky for me this was one of those rare times. Perfectly vinegary, perfectly fatty, just perfect! (Again, this Yankee doesn't know a lot about BBQ, but I know enough to know that I didn't regret the hour-plus of extra driving I had to do to get there, and would happily do it again.)

savannah eats

Gottlieb's is closed. I had the meal of my life at Elizabeth's on 37th on Wednesday; I'm going to do a write-up on places I ate when I have a chance. Bistro Savannah was very good but didn't blow me away like Elizabeth's.

Bistro Savannah, Elizabeth's, Gottlieb's

Thank you! Maybe I'll try Alligator Soul for a little late-night something...

Bistro Savannah, Elizabeth's, Gottlieb's

Great! That's going to be my first dinner there. Thank you.

Bistro Savannah, Elizabeth's, Gottlieb's

Someone on these boards recommended a board called http://www.savannahoffthebeatenpath.com and they had these two restaurants mentioned; the others I mentioned are sprinkled all about the boards.

Bistro Savannah, Elizabeth's, Gottlieb's

Looking forward to it! Thanks.

Bistro Savannah, Elizabeth's, Gottlieb's

Excellent, thanks! Everyone says to stay away from the Crab Shack without saying what a good alternative is, so if I hit Tybee I'll go to North Beach Grill.

Bistro Savannah, Elizabeth's, Gottlieb's

Will do!

Bistro Savannah, Elizabeth's, Gottlieb's

Ah, nevermind, then (I try to avoid overly touristy places but was simply charmed by the description of Clary's in "the book"). Upon further research I've found a couple of other breakfast/lunch places--Desposito's and The Breakfast Club--so I'll likely be going there. Thank you!

Bistro Savannah, Elizabeth's, Gottlieb's

Ah, upon further research I see Gottlieb's has closed--well, that takes care of the dinner dilemma! (Il Pasticcio looks good, but I'm from New York so eat global food all the time--I want some American food, darnit!)

Thank you!

Astoria Top 5 List?

I just finished a dinner from that taco joint! I've been happy with their food, though I've only had their tacos (repeatedly, the tacos de pollo with green salsa) and the quesadillas.

Mar 15, 2007
plumerai in Outer Boroughs

Greek Restaurants

I don't know about the cold potato dish, but my favorite Greek in Astoria is Zenon Taverna on 31st Avenue. They have a lot of Cypriot dishes as well, and their Cyprian mezze meal is delicious, particularly the sausage, quail, and seafood salad, and the fish roe dip (the other dips are pretty standard, but good). S'Agapo on 34th and 34th is good as well but I have found the food at Zenon to be more special.

Mar 15, 2007
plumerai in Outer Boroughs

Himalayan Yak is Yakky!!!

I enjoy the Himalayan Yak. Their dumpling dishes were particularly good, as was, strangely enough, the beef stomach. Much of the food of the region is mildly spiced, as opposed to the bulk of Indian food. But Tibet Shambala on the Upper West Side is better, IMHO.

Mar 15, 2007
plumerai in Outer Boroughs

Bistro Savannah, Elizabeth's, Gottlieb's

I will be in Savannah for two days, which means only two dinners. From what I can tell from these extraordinarily informative boards, all of these will be excellent, but I'm wondering if any of the three have a particularly special place in the Savannahian heart. I used to be a pastry chef, so if any of these have particularly outstanding desserts, please let me know!

For breakfasts and lunches, I have Skyler's, Mrs. Wilkes, Wall BBQ, Mom & Nikki's, and Clary's written down as possibilities. I'm excited to see and dine in your beautiful city!