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Some questions for my NJ friends about our home board...

I agree with much of what you posted. I was more speaking to one specific issue. I think under normal circumstances all is fine -- like you say, a sharing or exchange of opinions, differing opinions or views, and so forth. It works and works well and you have the forum providing an environment -- an important and valuable one -- where you view it as a resource, where you can go for information, different perspectives, opinions and the like. Works.

My only point was a myopic and specific one -- the philosophical question of why don't more people post, why don't some people post, etc. -- and I was speaking to the cyber-bully or dictator mentality/example.

I agree with how a BB evolves over time. Most of what you see here is evolutionary is nature. On the contrary, on egullet for example, in my opinion, the dynamic or tone of the BB didn't develop naturally or evolve over time naturally -- there was a distinct and intentional effort to "control" certain aspects of that BB; as to tone, opinions, expression, etc. Innocent posts would be pulled or deleted.

While it might seem silly to include the IMO or IMHO, while I can only speak for me, I tend to use it as habit, and because it adds clarity -- especially considering you do have the odd or three posters who do in fact speak as if their "opinion" (which they don't portray as an opinion) is gospel. Taking on the constant attitude of "making everyone else wrong" is outright offensive in my mind. Belittling other's opinions is as well.

Regardless, I agree with much of what you said and in the big picture, you bring up very good points -- and thanks for that.

about 2 hours ago
ELA in New Jersey

Some questions for my NJ friends about our home board...

"Another 'hound once analogized Chowhound threads to a conversation at the dinner table with a group of family and friends. I liked that. Yeah, sure, sometimes Uncle Fred says some really stupid shit, but it can be taken with a grain of salt - we're just here to break bread, right? Knowing when, and how, to tell the whole story, in such a context, isn't always easy, but, done right, it can certainly be rewarding for everyone. Just so long as there's time for questions after."

MGZ, I agree with you regarding the above, and in that setting, environment, it makes sense. I think, intellectually, many of us can understand that. There is a different dynamic here.

However, this is a dead medium environment -- absent much of the personal understanding and relationships, and more. Thus, it's words -- and interpreted tone. That said, simply put, there is no way to misinterpret someone who is being a complete jerk, arrogant, or the like -- and insults, belittles, etc., other's opinions.

In my opinion, I still feel that is one of the biggest deterrents in having people post here. It is disincentive for people to post their opinions when others will jump on them and attack them. I know a few people who don't post here, or don't post as often as they once did -- because they just can't stand the BS. Add an ignore button. It can help a little.

Thanks.

about 14 hours ago
ELA in New Jersey

Wolfgang's in Somerville has opened...

I hear you...agreed...but I've never had a problem at the River Palm. Also, never had a problem at the Old Homestead or Wolfgang's (NYC).

Depending on what cut of meat I am ordering, my mood, etc. -- I go medium rare 9 out of 10 times.

1 day ago
ELA in New Jersey

Wolfgang's in Somerville has opened...

Good points.

Like you, I am well aware of the norm and tradition at Luger and like you, I like it very much. I think the steak there, even without the butter and natural juices -- is moist, tender, etc., on the inside of the steak. You can get that nice char outside yet still have that juicy, tender, moist inside when you cut into it. Agreed.

Not everyone likes the butter/juices lathered on top. To each their own. However, I do agree with you -- many so called steakhouses serve you a steak and it is not moist, tender, etc. on the inside. Now, that is not the case at the River Palm -- which in my opinion is the best in NJ -- you get an excellent steak, prepared and executed as ordered, and it's tender, moist, juicy, etc. on the inside, even if you ordered it "burnt" on the outside. All of this given how do you order it? Order your steak well-done and you are going to lose some of that inside juiciness, tenderness, etc.

2 days ago
ELA in New Jersey

Some questions for my NJ friends about our home board...

I mentioned mouthfuls, as I am sure most of you already know, not as a direct comparison but specifically comparing the tone, dynamic, etc. Activity wise, it may be considered "light" by some people's standards -- but I would still go there first in looking for a review, or an opinion. I see more postings -- not people -- there that are "contributory" type posts, than I do here. Listen, I like it here, I participate, but different boards have different themes, tones, flavors, etc.

There might just be 4 or 5 people who post a lot, but it might be the same here, just with a larger amount of "others" -- but that doesn't change what the general tone is.

2 days ago
ELA in New Jersey

Wolfgang's in Somerville has opened...

Agreed, vis a vis coldbeer's comments as to Wolfgang's NYC locations and reputation in general. If you are talking NYC steakhouses, Wolfgang's is going to be on everyone's list and is well liked and well respected. High regard no doubt. Sure, not everyone will like it, but that's not the issue.

Even getting properly dry aged beef doesn't assure, and it's highly unlikely, you are going to get a Luger-type steak. It's not only the meat; as there is more to it.

Every piece of meat is different. To me, if I like a steakhouse and have been happy with what I get -- Luger, Old Homestead, Wolfgang's, for example -- to me it's about consistency. For that I rate Luger and Old Homestead as the best. I have never had anything other than an excellent steak at either place.

I agree with jr's comments about Luger -- and I've said and done the same. Everyone who goes, you will never have another steak like it. It is different than most people have had, not the aficionado-types, and that doesn't mean everyone will like it. But in my opinion, my tastes, likes, etc. -- Luger is one of the very best out there.

2 days ago
ELA in New Jersey

Some questions for my NJ friends about our home board...

I think this has progressed to a very good discussion in that numerous people have given their perspective. I am far from an expert on the life cycle of this BB, although I have been here for some time. I think there are some very valid points here. That said, most of my time here is spent on the "state" or "region" boards, but I've lurked and read all over the entire site.

Be that as it may, I think there are several things going on here. First, there seems to be a concentration of "ISO" or "question" type threads (I am speaking to here, the NJ board). This place can be a very valuable resource -- and as a result, people come here looking for information, guidance, etc. That's great. I think some of the people who were contributing "reviews" or "experience" threads might not longer be active here, or it's just a change over time, but there seems to be less of that.

Second, the "community" that has been created, has probably been affected by some of the cyber-experts who demean or trash other's opinions. I spoke to that in my previous post, but that does have an affect and changes the tone and dynamic of the room.

Third, yes, I think the economy has had an impact -- the largest segment(s) of population have been massively affected, so going out less, lifestyle reductions, and the like, has been a norm. It may ebb and flow, over the last X number of years, but that has been the case for the most part.

I too was on egullet in it's early stages and later on. My time there participating was short-lived as the politics, in-fighting, egos, and more, just wasn't conducive to a quality, enjoyable board in my opinion. I "went back" after some re-vamping, but it was more of the same. I am active on mouthfuls and I very much enjoy that board. The NJ board there has less activity, less people, etc., than here I think -- but it is a high quality board and I enjoy it very much. Sure, the format and design is more to my liking, it has a messaging system, etc. -- but the content of the board, and the tone, the dynamic, etc., is very good and very high quality. One reason is that there are people there who not only contribute, but they look to have a discussion, exchange ideas, information, hear other perspectives, etc. I think due to a couple of "I know it all and you are a moron" types here, there was much less of that.

Regardless, things change over time. That's life. Certainly in the dead medium of a bulletin board, with the come and go of people, times, etc. -- there will always be change.

Jan 28, 2015
ELA in New Jersey
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Food Bar Overlooking Kitchen?

LOL...uh, no, probably not...

Jan 25, 2015
ELA in New Jersey

Boom Burger - Rochelle Park

Not sure about this location -- went a few times for lunch and it was crowded each and every time. Seems to be a popular lunch spot for the local office buildings, workers, etc. It's convenient for me as my office is nearby and it's right off the Parkway (at the bottom of the exit ramp) -- so it's convenient for meeting people heading north on the GSP. I never thought this specific location was a good one, but who knows.

The location in Mahwah seems to be doing well (always crowded).

Anyway, the burgers were pretty good. Not my favorite of the "burger places" -- but a good burger, change of pace, etc., if you are looking for that kind of place. I wouldn't have a problem going back. The nearby burger places are doing well -- Bobby's is always crowded, very good following, etc. The so called "mall location" is your catch-22. The Shake Shack is always crowded (the original location on 17N). Not sure about the new location.

The rest of the burger places -- eh, either they closed or you could keep 'em, LOL.

Jan 25, 2015
ELA in New Jersey

Wolfgang's in Somerville has opened...

Strictly my opinion, but I've never been a RC fan. I've gone numerous times and wanted to like it, but I just never was able to get enthusiastic about it and like it. Just me.

Jan 24, 2015
ELA in New Jersey

Wolfgang's in Somerville has opened...

In my opinion, one thing that I think truly makes an excellent or great steakhouse, aside from a great steak -- is consistency. I get that at Luger's. You expect great and you get it, in my opinion. It's got a very high bar -- high quality, execution, etc. -- and it meets it every time. It's is very consistent from one visit to the next. If you don't go for a year, go back and you know what you are getting -- you remember it from the last time.

I've been to Wolfgang's in NYC -- several times, multiple locations -- and while I enjoy it, and I think it's very good, first, I don't feel it is as consistent. If I want a great steak -- forgetting about fine dining, ambiance, etc. -- I am going to Peter Luger. Second, if I want more fine dining, ambiance, and more of that type of environment, experience, etc., sure Wolfgang's is very good and I've had several friends who have wanted to go, and we go. For me though, it just wouldn't be my first choice -- for my likes, tastes, etc., my first choice would be the Old Homestead.

I just don't think Wolfgang's steak is as consistent. It's very good -- but I think Luger is better.

Jan 24, 2015
ELA in New Jersey

Wolfgang's in Somerville has opened...

I've been to Sammy's several times. I've had a "good" steak there, and a "fair" steak there. In my opinion, I don't count it as one of the premier steakhouses in NJ. I've heard people call it a "traditional" steakhouse and while I am not sure what they mean, it's not traditional to me. If my memory serves me correct, they don't have a porterhouse on the menu. It's also anti-steakhouse in that it's not al a carte (which I am sure people appreciate).

While the "experience" is unique, it's not my cup of tea. I understand their steaks are dry aged, but I don't think it's as "high quality" or prepared as well as the River Palm.

Roots, I like. I've been to the one in Morristown a few times, and now Ridgewood several times. I never felt it was on par with the River Palm, but it is certainly a high-quality, fine dining type of place in my opinion. While I never felt it was on par with the River Palm -- every meal I've had there has been very good. Not that I am waiting for a sub-par meal, because from that group I have never had one -- but the River Palm still just does steak better than anyone else in my opinion. Not a knock on Roots at all.

Jan 24, 2015
ELA in New Jersey

Some questions for my NJ friends about our home board...

I agree with you 1000%...and I'll go one step further. Even if a poster hasn't been to the subject restaurant -- that poster shouldn't trash any opinion. That's what this board is here for -- opinions, information, learning, knowledge, etc. However, when a person posts their opinion, someone else shouldn't take the attitude of "no, you are wrong, your opinion is wrong and is foolish, __________ is terrible, and by the way __________ is clearly much better, and the fact is the best place is __________" and so on. That's arrogant, and outright BS.

In my opinion, that type of arrogance and BS brings down the tone of the BB. It is a catalyst for people not to post. If that's the case, why should they. Hence, this BB should have an ignore button. Being that they don't, I just don't read any posts from certain posters...or should I call them posers.

Thanks fourunder.

Wolfgang's in Somerville has opened...

I would agree...although I think the River Palm, all around, is the best in NJ. Regardless of cut, I've never had a steak there that wasn't very, very good, and always cooked as ordered.

Jan 22, 2015
ELA in New Jersey

Wolfgang's in Somerville has opened...

Wolfgang's was supposed to be a Luger-clone only in certain respects. Wolfgang was with Luger's for over 40 years. He knew what he wanted to take from Luger's and knew what he didn't.

I don't know if the original plan was to go "national" as a group, partner with, etc. -- but now they have 8 locations in the US and 3 in Asia. That's certainly not being a Luger-clone, LOL.

I have not been yet, but I've been to both NYC locations. If Somerville is as good as NYC, I would certainly rate it as one of the best in NJ (in my opinion).

Jan 22, 2015
ELA in New Jersey

DQ that serves burgers?

Does it? It's physically connected to Falls View, but I don't remember them serving burgers. It's the typical "walk-up" style, as opposed to a "walk-in" and sit-down kind of restaurant. I haven't been there in a long time. I was driving by one day and was hungry so we stopped at the Falls View. It's right down the road from Portobello.

Jan 20, 2015
ELA in New Jersey

DQ that serves burgers?

I don't know if they are still there and if so, if they still serve burgers...but, a very average at best burger in my opinion.

For some strange reason, I think they might still be there as I drove by a few months ago.

Jan 20, 2015
ELA in New Jersey

Need really delicious Italian Restaurant Essex, Morris, Bergan, Union County or that vicinity

LuNello...top notch in every respect.

I've also heard some very good things about Nicola's (Totowa), which is a BYO. I've never been there, so I can't speak from personal experience.

As other's have said, I like Fasciano as well (fills the BYO request).

Given a choice between the two -- I would pick LuNello hands down.

In Bergen County -- Savini (not a BYO).

Good luck.

Jan 17, 2015
ELA in New Jersey

Best "Korean" chicken places in Bergen County?

Got it...thanks.

Dec 17, 2014
ELA in New Jersey

What is your goto for Holiday dining...if you dine out this time of year

I would also add St. Eve. I go throughout the year, but around the holidays it's just different, special. Also Cafe Panache.

Dec 17, 2014
ELA in New Jersey

Best "Korean" chicken places in Bergen County?

Thanks.

Dec 17, 2014
ELA in New Jersey

Best "Korean" chicken places in Bergen County?

Thanks for the heads up...I am guessing the place in Fort Lee is not a "Korean" style chicken place. Might be worth a shot though, LOL.

Thanks again.

Dec 17, 2014
ELA in New Jersey

What is your goto for Holiday dining...if you dine out this time of year

Excellent question...for me it's the time of year, season, etc...so I might go to a place I've gone to throughout the year, but it becomes special.

I'll second LuNello...I might throw in their the Saddle River Inn...and there's a few others...

Dec 16, 2014
ELA in New Jersey

Best paella in Northern NJ...

The other place I was thinking of was Tapas de Espana, in North Bergen. It was a long time ago, but I remember that paella was very good. I went back one other time, not long thereafter.

Sabor I had been to a few times. Nice spot to hang out.

Yes, I heard Patsy's is being built...and I still can't figure out exactly where it is. It's been described to me, but I still don't get it, LOL. The Old Loft was a bit north, same side of course. Patsy's is going in across on the other side of the street, right?

I was thinking DP II, that's the one in Pine Brook, right? The other is in Fairfield or something?

Dec 16, 2014
ELA in New Jersey

Best paella in Northern NJ...

Thank you very much...yes, Segovia was on my short list, actually at the top of it I think.

The only other I was thinking about was El Cid (Paramus). Last time these people came into town we went to Meson Madrid, but they were staying in Fort Lee and it was very convenient.

Any others? I can't think of any that are as good as Segovia.

I really don't know many other places around. I had gone to Sabor (North Bergen) a few times when I lived in Fort Lee, and there was another place in North Bergen I went to once (I forgot the name).

Thanks again.

Dec 15, 2014
ELA in New Jersey

Best "Korean" chicken places in Bergen County?

I know there are several around -- Korean, Asian, etc. I've been looking to try a few of these, and just never got around to it.

What are some of your favorite chicken places?

Thank you in advance.

Dec 14, 2014
ELA in New Jersey

Best paella in Northern NJ...

Hello all...looking for a couple of places that serve very good paella...and unfortunately, due to timing, travel, etc. -- we can't go to Newark.

Anything around Northern NJ, Bergen County, you like?

Thank you in advance.

Dec 14, 2014
ELA in New Jersey

Best desserts in Bergen County?

Sook...Ridgewood...do a search here, you will find plenty of comments.

The others mentioned are good in my opinion.

Dec 13, 2014
ELA in New Jersey

Knife & Fork, Atlantic City

I've gone with meat, pasta, etc. -- I've never had a meal there I have not thoroughly enjoyed. I've had several risotto dishes that were excellent. I very much enjoy the appetizers and side dishes, so that should add to satisfying you.

Go...enjoy!

Dec 03, 2014
ELA in New Jersey

Knife & Fork, Atlantic City

This is not going to be an "amped up vibe" -- no matter where you sit. Very different place, ambiance, etc. from American Cut. The end of the bar area, even though it is relatively right off the bar -- it is separated from the bar, end of bar. There's a bit of a distance, barrier, etc. Regardless, it's not a "loud" bar area -- not at all. It's more subdued, nice crowd, people waiting for tables, meeting for a drink, etc. There's a few people who are eating at the bar, but it's a nice, not loud bar area.

Make a reservation, look around the website, call the restaurant and ask them, talk to them, etc. -- and maybe you can get there early and look around. See what you like, and perhaps you can get a table in an area you end up liking. I don't know, but I did this the first time I went there, and they looked to accommodate me.

Dec 02, 2014
ELA in New Jersey
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