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Specific questions re: London (researched!)

Back to the FEB...E. Pelicci is, indeed closed that week. Sigh. So, I have a question about Maria's Borough Market Cafe. Do they serve breakfast all day? If we got to the market around 1, would I be able to get my FEB?

May 27, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Another specific question re: London Liverpool Station and Stonehenge on a bank holiday

Hello,

Errrmmm... my husband is professional guitar player who hails from Norway. I am a professor of history who claims Italian, Finnish, and Puerto Rican ancestry, raised in San Francisco. Along with my son, we are seasoned travelers, and eaters, and hardly identify with the Griswolds - if you are referring to the National Lampoon family.

I believe zuriga1 was directing me to a business called Cornwall Pasty, at Waterloo station, where I plan to investigate the possible procurement of a Cornish pasty (their spelling). I plan to check out how they look and smell, and to be prepared to experience them through imagined beer goggles. I am also prepared to dive into and relish the "Big One," should the opportunity present itself.

McD is nowhere on my itinerary. However, if it should prove to be the only viable option during my visit, which appears to fall in a time of mass business closings, the sting will be lessened by my interest in examining foreign McDs for cultural differences, as I have done in Japan, Norway, Sweden, France, Netherlands, Germany. The Burger King in Puerto Rico had exemplary coffee.

Pie and Mash is on my list...but not high. I'm traveling with two other people whose interests factor into my planning. If we find ourselves near M. Manze, I will certainly remember your recommendation, which is shared with many others on this board, both local and visitors. Perhaps even Griswolds.

May 26, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland
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Another specific question re: London Liverpool Station and Stonehenge on a bank holiday

So noted - thanks, Harters! Can't wait to see what, exactly, the "Big One" is!

May 26, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Another specific question re: London Liverpool Station and Stonehenge on a bank holiday

Thanks tnb - sheesh! It will probably be longer over the holidays. I'm going to see if I can talk him out of it...but if not, I will be searching this board for lunch near Kings Cross!

May 26, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Another specific question re: London Liverpool Station and Stonehenge on a bank holiday

Hi zuriga1 - I replied to this hours ago, but it seems to have disappeared...so glad to know the M&S situation at Waterloo, and was hoping for some direction on which pasties in particular you might recommend at the Cornwall Pasty place? Also, I like going to McD in other countries to see what, if any, cultural variants they might have!

May 25, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

Thanks for weighing in - it has migrated to the "must-do" list!

May 25, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Another specific question re: London Liverpool Station and Stonehenge on a bank holiday

Excellent, Foxeyblue - thanks for this! I think oat porridge might be just the thing considering all the FEBs I plan to eat! Sounds like we will have some decent options, and that is a relief.

May 25, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Another specific question re: London Liverpool Station and Stonehenge on a bank holiday

LOL!

May 24, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Another specific question re: London Liverpool Station and Stonehenge on a bank holiday

The Red Lion looks amazing - just the place after a wintry trip to an outdoor destination.

Hm. I should look into renting a car for this day trip.

Was also thinking that we might be able to stop at Ottolenghi Spitalfield for a quick breakfast and pick up some of their their salads and cold meats and sandwiches for later.

May 24, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Another specific question re: London Liverpool Station and Stonehenge on a bank holiday

LOVE this. I am forcibly restraining myself from researching Cambridge...the trip to Salisbury takes about twice that, each way, plus the bus/cab to Stonehenge. Plus the cathedral.

So, sounds as if I should rely on M&S, with perhaps some snacks set aside for true desperation. Will keep up the hunt for a Salisbury pub and I think we were planning on Needo for dinner upon our return.

May 24, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Another specific question re: London Liverpool Station and Stonehenge on a bank holiday

This sounds like an excellent plan...help me locate an acceptable pub in or near Salisbury/Stonehenge!

May 24, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Another specific question re: London Liverpool Station and Stonehenge on a bank holiday

Thanks! Glad to have a second for M&S...will check to be sure it is open. Waterloo-Stonehenge it will be, for us...although my son has requested a stop at King's Cross for the obligatory Harry Potter photo op.

May 24, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Another specific question re: London Liverpool Station and Stonehenge on a bank holiday

Gah - I mixed up greedygirl's suggestion to take the train from Stansted to Liverpool station with the train from London to Salisbury, which clearly leaves from Waterloo.

Great to know that pasties are readily available, and best consumed in the warmer light of late evening! Also very happy for the suggestion of M&S as a train-station takeaway option.

Stonehenge is a non-negotiable for my son who loves TV documentaries and my husband who loves Spinal Tap. So, we are off to Salisbury, where we also hope to visit the Cathedral that apparently houses one of the four remaining copies of the Magna Carta.

So, I found a couple of possibilities in Salisbury... how are bank holidays in towns like Salisbury? Any input on Harbour Fish & Chips, or Henderson's Bakery? Or other options?

May 24, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Another specific question re: London Liverpool Station and Stonehenge on a bank holiday

Hello all,

Thanks for your excellent guidance in my last round of questions. This question is manifold:

1. With only Sunday-Sunday to visit, would it be wisest to take the train to Salisbury and visit Stonehenge on the bank holiday the Monday after Christmas?

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a. If so, we would like to grab breakfast for the train, and takeaway lunch for Stonehenge. SO.... is there anything good to eat at the Liverpool station? We were thinking of pasties to take away - any input on the vendors at L station? OR.... is the Borough Market closed on every bank holiday, or is there a chance we could grab stuff there? OR.... should we just load up at Tesco the night before?

b. If not, any ideas on best-bets for bank holidays?

Thanks in advance!

May 24, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

gg - that sounds like a plan. FEB at Maria's, walk it off scoping the Borough Market and down to the museums & Globe, on the way back, either pick up delectables to take away, or hit Sweetings.

I think my "for certain" FEBs will be at Maria's, and Hawksmoor Guildhall(thanks for that pic, mikey8811!) ...although I am still confounded at what "plum pudding bacon" could be...

The backup list will include E. Pelicci, the Wolseley, the Bridge, and Roast.

Of course, I only have half a year to change my mind... ;-)

That museum looks wild! I haven't seen the Knick, didn't even know about it - definitely interesting. I can't wait for this trip to come!

May 21, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

Lordy me. That's about all I can say. Lordy me.

May 21, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

Oh no, I mean, yay...another one for the list! The Simpson's Sins looks amazing. And I'm crushed to hear about Diana's. They couldn't have waited a few months more for me to get there? Sigh.

May 21, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland
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Specific questions re: London (researched!)

What a conversation - I love this. So, is a potato scone a "tattie" scone?

And,

the much-lauded FEB at Hawksmoor Guildhall includes "plum pudding bacon" - what is this?

And,

it also includes hashbrowns...???

And,

I'm afraid my platonic ideal of this breakfast comes from a (gulp) memory of (steeling myself) a FWB in 1980. My first trip to the UK. US was boycotting the Olympics, but I got to see it in the charming inn where we woke up and ate breakfast for three mornings...by the second, the server asked us if we wanted "more toast" before we could ask her...by the third, she winked and brought it mid-meal without a word.

That remains one of the most potent food memories of my life...that mixture of textures, flavors, and aromas...that pool of glory left after the solids were consumed - left to be sopped up with toast. I realize this is quixotic, but I want to get sort of close, while respecting English and Londonish traditions.

Would you all weigh in on what you think should be my top choice for FEB, given the parameters? I'm feeling like I just need to do 4 greasy spoons and 4 hightone FEBs, but we are only there for 7 breakfasts, and there is more, so much more to eat!

Gotta make some critical absolutes on meals, to be vetted by the board soon, but as a sneak peek - Rules, St. John B&W, Ottolenghi, Dishoom, Needoo, Museum Tavern, Golden Hind, Diana's Diner, Sweetings, the Bridge, the Wolseley, Regency Cafe, the various Hawksmoors, Brawn, Maria's Borough, Roast, Qasida (close to the hotel)...

...so where can I get the FEB that will rock my proletariat, not averse to well-sourced and fresh ingredients, poorly founded with FWB, world?

PS - I wasn't into bubble & squeak until I read the review in the blog Harters posted - the description of B&S for Maria's cafe was very, um, inspirational!

May 20, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

The tomato is essential for me, for at least one of them!

May 20, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

OK - I won't stress as much, especially since I saw the E. Pelicci plate, and since we are planning to get at least one or two more during that week!

May 20, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

OK - after some thought, the turkey feast seems a less unique food option than the Sunday Lunch, FEB, or the gazillion restaurants I'm considering!

Mmmm bacon sandwich and tea...sounds like a vote for B&W over the original one...at least that's how it worked for me!

May 20, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

The food blog you linked is genius, Harters! I love the reviewers names, like Blake Pudding and Pam Chocolat. Maria's got raves, but there was some dissention in the comments about E. Pelicci...

May 19, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

Harters - I have noted your appreciation of greasy spoon FEBs in my research, and I have Diana's Diner, Maria's and the Bridge in my google map! Here's the deal though - do they serve back bacon, black pudding, cooked tomatoes, AND mushrooms? We will likely have more than one - but I'm seeking this platonic ideal.

Also noted is your assessment of Rules, and thus it is on the must-do list! Here's the deal with Rules - on their currently posted menu, and in many, many, many photos, is a rib of beef for two, with boulangere potatoes, creamed spinach, and yorkshire pudding. I'm assuming that is available all the time. So, if we can get that on another day, my panic for a Sunday lunch on actual Sunday may diminish. I said MAY diminish...!

May 19, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

Thanks, FCF - I didn't know about the Christmas lunches. Anyone know where this might happen?

Yes, the rare, rare, rare beefy lunch is a must do...somehow, somewhere...

And heck yeah - we will be all over the bacon butties!

May 19, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

Hi mr_gimlet! I'm not sure what you mean. The website says Hawksmoor Spitalfields is open on Sundays for lunch from 12-4:30. The hope is that we would make it to the hotel in time to take the 15 minute walk up for a 4PM booking. Does that sound feasible?

May 19, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

Thanks again! Don't know how I missed that review of E. Pelicci - it looks like it has all the components, and with your recommendation, this will be our first choice!

The problem is we arrive and leave on a Sunday, so breakfast and the flower market are going to be pretty much impossible. :( Glad to add Brawn to my list, it looks great - I will double and triple check that they aren't in limbo!

May 19, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

Hey greedygirl - thanks for all this advice! So, if a restaurant advertises Sunday "Lunch," will they serve it during their dinner hours? Hawksmoor Spitalfields, specifically. Guess I could email them...

Vote registered for E. Pelicci - thanks again!

And last, thanks for the train rec, which will most certainly enhance my dining experience for that afternoon/evening!

May 18, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

Hi PhilD - I have enjoyed reading your posts here and on the Paris board. Thanks for this response! Some followup questions for you...

FEB: Thinking of the Wolseley, Hawksmoor Guildhall, or E. Pelicci. Any thoughts, given my preferences?

Sunday Lunch: We get into Stansted at 1PM. It seems many of the Sunday Lunch places (like Hawksmoor Spitalfields) end their lunch hours around 4 or 4:30. I'm feeling like if we bus in and drop the baggage, we will have to dash anywhere else...its a newish place...hoping some intrepid 'hound will check it out and report!

Tea: Exactly my perspective! The Wolseley offers a cream tea just with scones (clotted cream and jam) which seems like a perfect option.

Caution: Thanks for the reminder - the challenges of traveling off season! I will be sure to double and triple check as we go.

May 18, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Specific questions re: London (researched!)

Hello,

I will be visiting London for a week in winter (Dec 27-Jan3) with my husband and son (10). Researching the board has provided me with an enormous list, and I have some specific questions I hope you all can help me with.

- Full English Breakfast: Don't care if it is high-tone or greasy spoon, don't care what it costs. What I DO care about is that it have back bacon (not streaky), black pudding, mushrooms, and tomatoes that are cooked enough to be juicy. Prefer bread/toast on the side. Of course it should be delicious. My eyes are crossing trying to compare menus and blog photos! Do these requirements spark any memories/recs for any of you?

- St. John/St. John Bread and Wine: I'm confused by their website, and trying to get a handle on the menu at each. Can you get the marrow bones at B&W? Welsh rarebit? Can you get the bar menu in the dining room at the original? Any preference between the two, particularly considering that we will have a 10 year old (chowpup extraordinaire) in tow?

- Parts & Labour: Anyone been here? This is the restaurant in the Qbic hotel, where we are staying - near the Aldgate tube station. It looks pretty good, and having Sunday Lunch there on the day we arrive would solve the logistic difficulties of going someplace else with luggage, or frantically rushing to make it in time. Unless I hear an endorsement here, I will book at Hawksmoor Spitalfield and make a sacrifice to the travel gods that we get there in time.

- Sunday Lunch: Instead of the above scenario, is an exceptional version of this meal done somewhere NOT on Sundays? I saw Rules' menu and pictures and their roast for two looks extremely, umm... big. Not that I mind taking delicious doggy bags...anyone have input on the roast beef at Rules, or another place that does Sunday lunch on a different day?

- Tea at the Wolseley: We are thinking of doing just the cream tea. Our reasoning is that the sandwiches can't be THAT good, so why waste a meal on them. Are we wrong about this? Are the sandwiches there worth a precious meal? Or, is there a place with a complete afternoon tea so good we should skip the Wolseley and spend our meal there?

That’s all for now – thanks in advance for any guidance you can offer. I love reading the discussions here, and will continue doing so until it is time to post my own experiences!

May 18, 2015
saticoy in U.K./Ireland

Kids' Menus

You have an unusually wide palatte-GOTW. However it happens, some adults prefer to expand their own palettes while their kids are not open to expansion. No pets, no endurance.... just a way for some parents to go out with kids not quite as advanced, culinary-wise, as you.

Feb 12, 2015
saticoy in Austin