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Piemonte. We have a list, help us fill it in.

hey all, after much help from the chowhound community, we have entirely changed our itinerary. We are now planning 8 days by car in Piemonte and emilia romagna. The focus of this post will be Piemonte. As a background, we have traveled the world searching for the best local food. We have very little concern for ambiance, fancy plating, service, or much else of the fine dining experience (our closest friends are el bulli and mugaritz alums, so we are lucky to eat modernist food with friends in a relaxed environment).
that being said, we could not possibly be more excited for the piemonte portion of our trip! we are huge slow food fans (we brew, ferment, cure, smoke, etc).
we have come up with the following list for the first 3 days, but were hoping that the community could help us fill in with one or two more places to eat. also, if you think a place should be specifically a lunch or dinner, please feel free. and lastly, if there is an activity you think we should do (we love LEARNING about local food too!) please share!

Ristorante Belbo Da Bardon
Ristorante il Centro
La Piola
Osteria Veglio
Osteria la Torre
Open Baladin Cinzano Srl (for a beer and a burger)

May 27, 2013
avidan in Italy

The ultimate Italian road trip

this thread has just caused quite a ruckus in this household. we have now cancelled our trip to brussels and berlin. we will now be flying from paris to italy. giving us 14 days in italy!

do you think we can do piemonte, EM, and Sicily?

we were thinking to fly into sicily, do 3-4 days there, and then the final 10 split between piemonte and EM.

we are definitely looking at some agriturismo. anyone have any experience with La Traversina?

any other agriturismo spots?

May 25, 2013
avidan in Italy

The ultimate Italian road trip

sorry for the confusion on this one. we are definitely not covering the entire country in 9 days. just trying to select the best region to visit aside from sicily. currently, we are debating between piemonte or maybe the parma/bologna/florence run.

we havent done enough research on piemonte, so we are reading a bunch now.

May 25, 2013
avidan in Italy

The ultimate Italian road trip

dont worry at all steve. we are ok with a bit of a lecture post.
based on all this feedback, we have decided to split the trip in two, with a flight connecting the two. half in sicily, and the half in a specific region (yet to be decided).

our flight into milan is purely from a logistics requirement (we are flying in from berlin). we are more than happy to land in milan and immediately get back on a plane to get to a more interesting region to travel around.

we are now trying to contemplate which region to dedicate our second half of the trip to aside from sicily.

May 25, 2013
avidan in Italy

The ultimate Italian road trip

that map is awesome! thanks.

since we are sharing maps, here are ours:

http://goo.gl/maps/147kK (NYC
)http://goo.gl/maps/7ixyp (SF
)http://goo.gl/maps/ey4P7 (LA)

May 25, 2013
avidan in Italy

The ultimate Italian road trip

ya. i think we are going to fly in between. maybe a flight from florence to sicily. or maybe make our way from milan to rome, then buy a round trip ticket from rome to sicily.
do you think 4 days is enough in sicily?

May 25, 2013
avidan in Italy

The ultimate Italian road trip

thank you for the reply. we definitely understand the geographic difficulty of traversing the entire country in 9 days. to be honest, we have no issue with "feeling rushed" (ive flown to okalahoma joes for lunch....and we flew to napa for a dinner at french laundry). that being said, we were planning to do 3-4 days or so in the northern regions (parma, florence, or now maybe piemonte). then another 4 days in sicily. then a last day or two in rome to catch our return flight.

thank you for the setting expectations appropriately on pricing of meals. perhaps its a matter of perspective for us. we eat in SF, NYC, and LA most often in the US, so our home meals are usually about $30/person minimum. Our last trip of this nature was a few months ago to Japan, which was also not cheap. Our issue with "fine dining" and the costs is we hate to be disappointed with a multi-hundred dollar meal....dont get us started on french laundry (it was like a final exam for a michelin star...way too safe).

ok. we now that the plotkin book in our amazon shopping cart

any thoughts on cooking classes? (sorry to throw such a big question in)

May 25, 2013
avidan in Italy

The ultimate Italian road trip

fantastic! we will definitely look into the possibility of heading to piemonte.
i looked at the slow food guide on amazon, but feedback was saying that it was a bit outdated. do you think thats just a few people whining and the book is still overall great?
definitely going to look at having a great book by our side.

May 25, 2013
avidan in Italy

The ultimate Italian road trip

Hey all,
My girlfriend and I are traveling through Italy in early June and would love some seasoned eater and travelers advice.
A bit about us.
We travel very often, and would rather spend our money on a flight and an off the beaten path meal than a fine dining experience in our own town (SF and LA). We are active in the kitchen and love the slow food movement. We cure our own meat, roll our own pasta, brew beer, and I have built several brick ovens and computer controlled meat smokers. Needless to say, we not only love food, but love the process and the artisans who take pride in their craft.
Our upcoming trip is a quick one, but since we are both focused on the same thing, are hoping we can avoid tourist traps.
Unfortunately we don't speak Italian, but will have our iPhones ready with a dictionary.
Our current plan is to fly into Milan and make our way south. Our only requirement is to make it to Sicily for a few days and eventually back to Rome for our flight home.
So, with 9 days, what are the must do food lover experiences from Milan to Sicily.
We have read quite a few threads on each city (Florence, bologna, Rome, etc)....but were hoping for a higher level sense of how to plan our trip.
Is each city best seen on foot? We are happy to walk several miles a day. Are the artisans outside the city and we need a car? Is there amazing food to be had on the roadside in the country? If you could pick 3 best foodie cities, which would they be?

Our budget is flexible, but we get far more excited by a great rustic meal than a fine dining experience. Maybe even a few home meals? Also, recommended cooking classes are great too.
Sorry if this has so many questions, and our excitement is transparent. We probably should have made this a month long trip.

May 23, 2013
avidan in Italy

Kansas City Espresso recommendations?

reviving a dead thread here, but i highly recommend Quay and Oddly Correct. Both very recent additions to KC espresso, but amazing (I just finished a cross country road trip dedicated to food/beverage...i acted as a coffee mule for a few nano-roasters trading along the way).

Dec 17, 2012
avidan in Great Plains

in phoenix on x-country food trip - BEST MEAL NEEDED

Hey, looks like we underestimated the traffic leaving la today. We won't get to phx until after 1030. This probably leaves off Kia and binkleys. Regardless, I think they may be a little pricey for the first dinner of 20 :)
We are looking at the low key late night eats around phx and posting arcadia and Cornish pasty popped up. Any other ideas?

Jun 27, 2012
avidan in Phoenix

What would your final meal in Denver be?

awesome. we'll have to take a look. any other "must haves"?

Jun 25, 2012
avidan in Mountain States

in phoenix on x-country food trip - BEST MEAL NEEDED

ya, we will probably go for lunch on thursday. luckily they will still be open.
im actually obsessed with pizza, so this will be a bit of a mecca trip. i know chris doesnt work the oven any more, but ive been using his tomatoes and love his technique....i actually just built a monster computer controlled pizza oven that has furnace blowers to stoke the wood fire up to 1300 degrees, 60 second pizza!
very excited for this trip.

Jun 25, 2012
avidan in Phoenix

in phoenix on x-country food trip - BEST MEAL NEEDED

damn it. that sounds awesome! unfortunately, we are going to be in phx this wednesday, so no tasting for us. bummer.
will definitely take a look at binkleys and kai.

Jun 25, 2012
avidan in Phoenix

Roadtrip through New Mexico

lunch and dinner on a thursday.

Jun 25, 2012
avidan in Southwest

Roadtrip through New Mexico

ya, we arent looking for revelatory food, really just great regional food. so, where is the best green chile? we are willing to drive up to 2 hours off our path to get it....
we'll probably skip the pizza since we end our trip in new york :)
ill post back what our experience is like.

Jun 25, 2012
avidan in Southwest

What would your final meal in Denver be?

awesome. i ready a bunch about biker jims. might have to make a snack out of it. though we have a crazy sausage place here that sounds similar (wurstkuche).

for pizza, we will definitely try to stop at delorenzo. i usually stick with my ny favs (robertas, grimaldis, di fara, keste, etc)...but this trip warrants breaking the status quo :)

Jun 25, 2012
avidan in Mountain States

What would your final meal in Denver be?

ya. thats exactly what we are looking for. im also a super food geek, so i always love seeing people with crazy creative contraptions for cooking (converting a shed into a smoke house, propane tank into a smoker, etc). i build computer controlled cooking equipment for fun, so i always love finding the other crazies out there!

as far as chile is concerned, we will definitely get some in NM, but it seems like denver has so many other great meals, it may need to be skipped (unless someone has a must see place)

Jun 25, 2012
avidan in Mountain States

Must EATS in KC & St. Louis

ya, we are going to reserve our pizza eating for phoenix (bianco) and new york (de fara / robertas / grimaldis)

Jun 25, 2012
avidan in Great Plains

Must EATS in KC & St. Louis

ya. thats exactly what we are looking for. im also a super food geek, so i always love seeing people with crazy creative contraptions for cooking (converting a shed into a smoke house, propane tank into a smoker, etc). i build computer controlled cooking equipment for fun, so i always love finding the other crazies out there!

Jun 25, 2012
avidan in Great Plains

Must EATS in KC & St. Louis

hey all,
my gf and i are trekking across the country searching for the best food. we plan on stopping in Kansas City and St. Louis for 2-3 meals each. we could go the usual route and look for food&wine mag recs, yelp, zagat, but really, we are after "just the food". and there is no better place then CH.

we already have ok. joes on the list (what to order though? burnt ends?) im a bit passionate about bbq, so i wouldnt mind 2 or 3 more BBQ joints, but really, we just want the list of MUST EATS in KC and St. Louis. We are willing to drive way off the beaten track for a meal (we are driving across the country for it!), so feel free to go wild with the recommendations!

if you had 1 meal in KC or St Louis, what would it be? not just the restaurant, but the specific dish we need to order.

price is not the driving factor, but we are not looking for a fancy dining experience (just got back from napa), we are simply looking for the greatest FOOD. it could be in a gas station. or a strip mall....i guess we are looking for everyones "death row / final meal". (sorry to make it morbid)

we are going to post a similar thread in each of the other cities we are going to, and will make a google map with the results (and share it with everyone)....and then come back to write about the experiences.

fyi, here are the other cities: phoenix, denver, albuquerque, louisville, columbus, philadelphia, nyc.

thanks so much for all the help!

Jun 24, 2012
avidan in Great Plains

Roadtrip through New Mexico

hey all,
my gf and i are trekking across the country searching for the best food. we'll be driving through new mexico from phoenix to stop in Albuquerque for a day. What would you recommend as the best food to experience new mexico cuisine.

we are willing to spend a couple extra bucks an AMAZING meal, but we are simply looking for the greatest FOOD. it could be in a gas station. or a strip mall. or just on the side of the road from phoenix to ABQ....i guess we are looking for everyones "final meal" in new mexico. (sorry to make it morbid :)

we are going to post a similar thread in each of the other cities we are going to, and will make a google map with the results (and share it with everyone)....and then come back to write about the experiences.

fyi, here are the other cities: phoenix, denver, kansas city, st louis, louisville, columbus, philadelphia, nyc.

thanks!!

Jun 24, 2012
avidan in Southwest

What would your final meal in Denver be?

hey all,
my gf and i are trekking across the country searching for the best food. we plan on stopping in denver for 2-3 meals (mid-week). we could go the usual route and look for food&wine mag recs, yelp, zagat, but really, we are after "just the food". and there is no better place then CH.

if you had 1 meal in denver, what would it be? not just the restaurant, but the specific dish we need to order.
price is not the driving factor, but we are not looking for an amazing dining experience (just got back from napa), we are simply looking for the greatest FOOD. it could be in a gas station. or a strip mall....i guess we are looking for everyones "death row / final meal" in denver. (sorry to make it morbid)

we are going to post a similar thread in each of the other cities we are going to, and will make a google map with the results (and share it with everyone)....and then come back to write about the experiences.

fyi, here are the other cities: phoenix, albuquerque, kansas city, st louis, louisville, columbus, philadelphia, nyc.

Jun 24, 2012
avidan in Mountain States

in phoenix on x-country food trip - BEST MEAL NEEDED

hey all,
my gf and i are trekking across the country searching for the best food. we plan on stopping in phoenix for 2-3 meals (mid-week). right now we have bianco lined up for a lunch or late dinner pizza, but wanted to know your thoughts on the other meals.

if you had 1 meal in phoenix, what would it be? not just the restaurant, but the specific dish we need to order.
price is not the driving factor, but we are not looking for an amazing dining experience (just got back from napa), we are simply looking for the greatest FOOD. it could be in a gas station. or a strip mall....i guess we are looking for everyones "death row / final meal" in phoenix. (sorry to make it morbid)

we are going to post a similar thread in each of the other cities we are going to, and will make a google map with the results (and share it with everyone of course)....and then of course come back to share the experiences.

fyi, here are the other cities: albuquerque, denver, kansas city, st louis, louisville, columbus, philadelphia, nyc.

Jun 24, 2012
avidan in Phoenix

Great real deli in LA?

I'll avoid hashing out what has already been said about langers, brents, nates, etc....as I agree with it all.
Instead, I will try to provide a little insight into kosher delis that are rarely covered. Glatt Kosher.
While most deli's are Kosher style, few are actually kosher. Unfortunately, some of the best sandwiches are not, and can never be kosher (no swiss on that reuben). More importantly, for a kosher deli to get the highest certification, they need to be closed on saturday (shomer f*in shabbos). So, that being said, there is really only one GOOD kosher deli in LA. It's Pico Kosher Deli on Pico & Roberston. Its on the southwest corner, and I remember going often in high school, as I attended the largest orthodox jewish high school in LA, which is down the street.
Now, about the food.
As a kid, I usually got the combination of corned beef and pastrami on seedless rye with extra mustard.
The pastrami is great, though recently I went back and was a little disappointed. I am going to give benefit of the doubt, since I had years of great pastrami sandwiches, and it was right after the agriprocessors shutdown, which is the cause of the serious shortage of kosher beef in the US right now. The pastrami is not hand cut, but is still a well done hot meat.
They also grill up the pastrami as if it were bacon, and throw it on the burgers. Though I still prefer a bacon cheeseburger from many other places in LA...
Dave's special is great too (meat and slaw, like a langers #19, but with turkey i think)

The craziest thing about this place is that its the same employees as 20 years ago.

....bourdain makes me miss Katz's. Can't wait for NY to thaw.....and im the first jetblue flight out....

Feb 23, 2009
avidan in Los Angeles Area