Will do thymetobake!
- cheesy herbed polenta
- root vegetable sautee
is really speaking to me.
From Austin's Dai Due, I purchased a:
If you had porchetta as your Thanksgiving entree, what would you make to go with it? (and a guest also as a seafood allergy)
Thanks so much. I ordered the last one earlier this week, then braved the elements to pick it up today from Dai Due at the very cold and wet downtown Farmer's Market.
Looks beautiful, is vacupacked, should be yummy.
I'm debating turkey breast vs pork roast for Thanksgiving.
Does anyone sell turkey breasts that are already brined?
Red's brunch menu looks excellent:
Smoked Brisket Hash
Thanks for the reminder Ken W; it's easy to forget about this place because of its location. It's on a busy street but still sort of hidden in a parking lot with several groupings of stores. They are in same area as Cover 3, right? Doesn't their storefront face the side or back though?
I've been there twice and remember enjoying the meals and environment.
I'll have to give them a whirl.
Their website says
Is that accurate? I don't remember seeing them there.
Thank you. That's all I need to know.
>> because it's not a fish-only restaurant despite the name...
Of course not. Almost all places with fish or seafood in their name also have meat on their menu.
However, when someone with a seafood allergy indicates that to the server, 9 times out of 10 the server will look puzzled or say some variation of, "You realize you ARE at a seafood restaurant, right?"*
Plus, the risk of cross contamination via shared utensils is probably much higher, especially if its a smaller kitchen.
*One notable exception - Paul Qui winner of Top Chef said he would create a special seafood-free menu for us if we dined at his new restaurant. (I have no special 'in'. This is just Paul being Paul.)
Parigi >> This inexplicable aversion to search - a thousand times worse than the inexplicavable aversion to reserving - is what demoralizes the local regular contributors most.
Parigi, I spent ~3 hours (probably more) searching for excellent options in this situation.
Brasserie Lipp was the ONLY option I found via Search that
1) Received POSITIVE comments here on Chowhound
and presents the incredible flexibility of features 2) - 4)
2) Open every day Mon-Sun 9 am - 1 am
3) Very close to my hotel
4) Accessible without a reservation
However, my sense was it could be 'iffy' so I asked for specific ordering recommendations in this thread.
Someone suggested "Le Comptoir Relais", which is already on our Plan A list. However, Paris by Mouth said "Book many weeks in advance.". That means it should not go on the Plan B list since we won't have a days in-advance reservation.
In our last vacation, the un-planned place we had to "settle for" after
We've driven several hours for a great meal. But when on vacation and in an unfamiliar place, more constraints are at play.
If there are no restaurants that satisfy my constraints, then please simply say:
"No, there are no restaurants I know of that both
"No, there are no restaurants I know of that both
Please do NOT assume that, for example:
- Because I am asking a difficult question, I do not want deliciousness.
- Because I predict that we will need a couple breakfasts at an early-for-Paris hour, I must not care about delciousness.
- Because I am looking for a place accessible without reservations near your hotel to use as a Plan B, I must not care about delciousness.
All of those assumptions would be incorrect.
VegasGourmet>> For starters, look at Fish-La Boissonerie....plug it in the search engine and read some write-ups.
Speaking of reading, did you even bother to read my original request VegasGourmet?
Given what I wrote in my original request, why would you think a place called "Fish-La Boissonerie" would be a good choice?
John Talbott, my base expectation (hope maybe is a better word) is deliciousness for every meal in Paris.
In other words, my hope is, regardless of any other constraints we must operate under (day, time of day, travel time available, location, distance, etc), in a city called Paris, if I have researched properly, I should be able to find a delicious meal.
On days when we have minimal constraints, I merely have to read past postings, which I am doing, with special attention to yours, all those people whose names start with a P..., mangeur, etc., Then we choose from 10 great choices. How easy is that! :-). On days with minimal constraints I'm positive we'll experience a delicious meal.
Ex: This weekend I had fewer than normal time constraints and weather mostly cooperated. So I spent 16 hours (elapsed) making our all time favorite turkey ranch sandwich, starting with brining a turkey breast then smoking it. This Thursday my time constraint will be ~2 min. So I will heat up roasted salted almonds, and grab my favorite hummus and barely roasted veggies for dinner. But given time and calorie constraints I have during the week, that is still a delicious meal.
The reason why I asked about Brasserie Lipp:
- I read both favorable and iffy comments here on it (Yes, I searched) http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5918...
- It's probable that in our 10 days that include 2 Saturdays and 2 Sundays, we'll want a Plan B location close by for lunch or dinner in a place with hours as flexible as Lipp.
Oh my goodness! :-)
John Talbott, no apology needed, I'd rather know what you really think.
I was trying to think of a good Plan B place near the hotel when Plan A reservation in another location doesn't work out for whatever reason.
Though with La Fourchette and Yelp, maybe we'd be able to at least avoid the bad places and find a decent place on our mobile on same day.
Since our hotel is next door to Brasserie Lipp, I'd guess we'll have at least 1 or 2 lunch or dinner meals there during 1 week + in Paris.
- Primarily looking for meat dishes since 1 person has seafood allergy. Maybe it will be simpler for the kitchen staff if we all had meat.
- My perception is Brasserie Lipp offers Alsacien (Alsatian?) specialties. We'll be spending several days in Strasbourg after Paris, where we'll definitely have Choucroute and Baeckeoffe. Therefore, please exclude those from your recommendations :-).
We enjoy all other meats except for strange (to me) parts, like chicken feet or pig knuckle. We have become adventurous enough to enjoy beef tongue recently.
Does Lipp serve roasted rabbit with mustard sauce? (Lapin à la moutarde?)
At one point I thought I saw the menu on their inscrutable website but I can't find it now.
PS: Their website lists their hours as 9:00am - 1:00am. Do they really serve their food menu continuously during all those hours? Or do they serve drinks only in between the traditional dining hours.
Agree on the excellence of Christmas markets in Nuremberg and especially Rothenburg ob der Tauber, which looks like a living fairy tale after snow.
Although the point of this trip is not Christmas markets specifically, I'm sure we'll walk through them in the evenings.
I am surprised that aspiring, enterprising French chefs haven't created pop-up restaurants at the Christmas markets.
In past vacations my top 2 favorite Christmas market eats were:
Prague - the Czech Spa Wafers
Vienna - One bite of the Buchtel pictured below and I conclude: Austrians understand yeast. So many light fluffy sweet layers with jam hidden inside.
Final picture is from
Thank you Vegas.
Gourmet Christmas at palais Brongniart
First Paris fair of Christmas gastronomy
The La Defense market is completely separate and not related to La Bourse de Paris, right?
In a different thread, Jamiei said "don't miss the fabulous food at the Christmas market at La defense."
What is your favorite Paris Christmas market food and drink, and what makes it special to you?
Jamiei, What do you like about the food at the Christmas market at La defense?
Question to Francoise:
>> We want to just eat, visit hotels, shop, and fill up on our share of coq au vin, boeuf bourguinonne, and other hearty fall fare,
What do you mean by "visit hotels"? (i.e., to see new bars and restaurants?)
Which are your favorite hotels to visit?
So I take it this should be a daytime visit?
Then, I could have it with me on my smartphone when I travel.
I'd want to figure out how to make my phone play Edith Piaf or France's anthem or vibrate when I get near something that you had recommended. How cool would that be. It would be like having you in my purse :-).
In Chrome on maps.google.com, you have to click on the gear-shaped button, top far right. Then "My Places" to use the version of Maps that makes it easy to create "My Maps".
You could always export your maps locations or Points of Interest (POIs) to a standard list of locations (called a KML file) and then import it into other maps software or Garmin.
Thank you! Those passageways look like a great way to spend a couple hours.
I put 2 pushpins with flags "sites" in my Paris google map, one each on
looks like the first one is closer to A La Mère de Famille
So I could start with
Thanks Parigi, John Talbott, mangeur.
I now have labeled several of the "A La Mere de Famille" locations on my Google Paris Map with a Yellow Shopping Basket pushpin.
That is the plan for most (of the 10) days in Paris. It's clear the what's most special to Paris is served during lunch and dinner. (and the croissant all day long :-) So most days, I want to save those calories for lunch and dinner, and just eat enough of breakfast to keep my stomach from growling too soon.
But on ~ 3 days, we definitely will need to eat a protein breakfast, hopefully one that includes eggs + a delicious croissant or a breakfast crepe. Because the next meal after that will be dinner.
Last vacation we planned sightseeing a lot better than meals and consequently we were hungry most of the trip. Cheddar and prosciutto from Harrods + my 1 ounce nut bags were all gone by day 5 as snacks.
>> If hungry later on simply stop at a bakery for coffee and a pastry.
We will. And because chocolate croissants are one of my all time favorite sweets, it will be impossible to resist.
Though usually I cheerfully ignore hunger when vacationing if time is outside of a scheduled meal. We're usually so wrapped up in the activity, the sights, or just being outside. My go-to local snack last vacation in Prague was intended to be the kolache
Parnassian >> I just happen to be a Parisien who likes eggs, etc in the morning as well as croissants and pain au chocolat...
Thanks so much!
The above options should be plenty. Also, someone from Calais replied almost immediately with a nice email and their hours
One final question -
Parnassien thank you for reminding me of that! I remembered them from someone's blog when I saw their frustratingly sparse website.
>> the current "in" place for breakfasting Parisiens... impossible to get a table at weekends but ok during the week... opens at 8am.
Seeee! A revolution is occurring. :-).
>> The breakfast you get will be similar everywhere, and rarely outstanding.
Parigi, that is definitely my impression. That's why our Plan A for most days is to eat something minimal for breakfast in the room and then make our 2 main meals an early lunch and dinner.
But on several days mornings need to eat a real meal for breakfast since the next time we'll be eating will be dinner.
We'll need several early morning breakfasts during our December trip to Paris.
"early" = 6am - 9am
Hotel location is across from Cafe de Flore in the 6'th arr.
Do you have any specific recommendations for breakfast items at these 3 nearby locations? From earlier notes, looks like they serve breakfast early.
1) Cafe Louise
breakfast, lunch, brunch
Sunday to Wednesday: 7:00 to 2:00
2) Cafe de Flore
3) Cafe les Deux Magots
One morning our destination is
so breakfast near there would be good too.
All else fails, we can always purchase yogurt from the Monoprix around the corner and put it in an ice bucket overnight. The hotel serves breakfast and I'm sure one day we'll have it, but I'd rather explore other places if possible.
My typical weekday breakfast at home is yogurt or cottage cheese with granola, which I am bored of but it definitely fits the calorie and time budget when at home or with no other options...
My favorite breakfasts usually includes eggs, pancakes, breakfast meats, etc. Good for energy needed for tromping around Paris!
OK, thanks John.
Too bad the Mamou bistro you reviewed isn't open during lunch.
I could see that because Pascade based on a specialty.
However, that's fine since my rule when on vacation is to not repeat a visit unless there are no other options or it's just that compelling.
I call that a "rule" because without it, my tendency would be to repeat what is good, known, comfortable. And in a place like Paris that would be a crime. :-)
3 from your replies are now definite for the trip.
mangeur, Pascade looks intriguing - the concept, the zen industrial interior, the chef. It also has 3 unique attributes:
For that reason I will save it for between 2:30pm - 7:00pm on days when activities mean no sit-down lunch or we need sustenance before a later dinner reservation. In fact, if the trip is delayed the day before this tour and we arrive mid-afternoon, we will head there first as I know we'll be famished. That fills in my Plan B for arrival day.
2) Les Jalles
Ptipois, we will experience Les Jalles for a drink at that chic zinc bar after the tour. Something with Lillet please :-). (I've never actually tried Lillet. But I shall in Paris.)
Parnassien, I don't recall exactly why, but I actually already had labeled Lazare on my Google "My Maps" for Paris with a green pushpin. A green pushpin means I'm certain either like it or we will need to go there for logistical reasons.
Maybe it's because it has the VERY unique attribute of sounding like a delicious French restaurant that is open 7 days a week for breakfast, lunch, dinner AND very late (from 7:30am - Midnight).
Or, I might have thought it was a Sunday definite, since a lot of places I looked up are closed on Sundays, and I will be in Paris across 2 Sundays.
Other places that look excellent
Parnassien, I LOVE the idea of handing over the wine decision making to the best sommelier in the world.
Odd - One site says they are open for lunch, but the Goust website says:
but then elsewhere on their website they refer to:
In case of Goust especially, I'd agree with parigi. It would probably be best experienced when there's time to meditate on the wine choices at either dinner or lunch.
2) Brasserie / Restaurant Garnier
John Talbott, is the Brasserie Garnier adjacent to this restaurant:
Nancy S >> Since the tour ends at 5, why don't you spend a bit of time wondering to another neighborhood for dinner?
Great point. I forgot that restaurants don't open till 7.
So I can narrow the scope to Lunch only for this thread :-).