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Good food touring areas - using public transport only?

You can visit Piemonte by train and bus. Alba, Asti and Bra all have train stations. I visited La Morra using a bus. It takes a bit of patience but it's easy enough. Here's a link to the bus co.

http://www.viaggisac.com/linee-orari/...

Jul 27, 2012
badwaiter in Italy

Gelato in Milan

I think Bianco latte on via Turati is high quality stuff. It's in a league with these others. I also liked Chococult quite a bit but haven't been there in a long time. Their chocolate and basil gelato was pretty interesting. It's on Via Buonarotti near the Wagner market.

Jun 28, 2012
badwaiter in Italy

Castelrotto area options

Memory fading... I stayed there about five summers ago. Most of the hotels include dinner though I imagine you can skip that option if you prefer. The restaurant at the Zum Turm hotel was nice though. We had some beers in a basement bar located in the center that was decorated with posters and memorabilia of the Kastelruther Spazen, the local band of the town who are inescapable. I cant remember the name but it was located quite near to the square. The food there was pretty hearty bar food.

Jun 21, 2012
badwaiter in Italy

Traditional Eating in Bologna / Gubbio / Modena

How many people were you? A 16 euro coperto seems high.

Jun 11, 2012
badwaiter in Italy

London week between Christmas and New Year

London 'hounds,

I'll be in London the week between Christmas and New Year. I'm finding lots of places closed. Please help me choose between these two places or throw some others in the ring for consideration. Looking for British/Gastropub style fare fairly central. These two places are open and seem to fit the bill.

St. John (Hotel)
The Orange

I've also looked into Medcalf and though I haven't been able to confirm, it appears to be closed over this period. Thanks!

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Medcalf
40 Exmouth Market, London EC1R 4QE, GB

St. John
26 St John Street, London EC1M 4AY, GB

Nov 27, 2011
badwaiter in U.K./Ireland

Grocery shopping in milan

I have a two for one deal for you. In the scheme of the world, both of these places are very close to your hotel-- probably about a 15-20 minute walk. Or you can walk to the Porta Genova green line stop which is probably a 5 min walk and take it two stops. At the Sant Ambrogio stop is Pam Supermarket. This stop is at the corner of via Olona and via de Amicis. If you walk down via de Amicis about three or four blocks you will get to "Kitchen" which has a lot of high-end cookware though I cannot comment on the specific brands you are seeking.

http://www.kitchenweb.it/pagine/pagin...

As for Peck, Eataly, etc. if you are looking to splash out as they say, these are probably the places. Unless you are looking for something super specific or hard to source, I would just stick to the grocery store. Of course, I do realize half the fun is going into a place like Peck and splurging. I still prefer Rossi and Grassi which I have posted about here before. They have plenty of high end stuff though the selection is more limited. However, they will talk to you and treat you like you are doing them a favor to spend money in their store rather than the other way around which is unfortunately the case with Peck. Enjoy your trip.

Nov 08, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Grocery shopping in milan

Anybosy here.

Where are you staying? Even a modest grocery store should be able to fulfil your interests.

Nov 06, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Milan in August - recommendations for tomorrow please

I'm sorry I don't have specific recommendations for you but these two links could help.

http://milano.corriere.it/aperto-agosto-cat.shtml?cat=19

http://www.milanodabere.it/milano/ris...

Aug 21, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Slow Food Books NYC [Moved from Italy]

UPDATE: I emailed Kitchen Arts and Letters and they responded that they have had no luck getting Italian Slow Food Books. Thanks everyone for your other helpful suggestions.

Aug 17, 2011
badwaiter in Manhattan

Italian Slow Food Books NYC

Can anyone offer a suggestion where to buy the Italian language Slow Food Osterie Guide in the NYC Metro area? Thanks.

Aug 15, 2011
badwaiter in Manhattan

Slow Food Books NYC [Moved from Italy]

Maybe I should post this on the NYC boards but does anyone know where one might get the Italian language version of the Slow Food Osterie Guide in NYC metro area? Thanks.

Aug 15, 2011
badwaiter in Manhattan

Another GROM gelato hits the trash can

Gelateria Squero

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Gelateria Squero
Sestiere Dorsoduro, Venice, Veneto 30123, IT

Bianco Latte
Via Filippo Turati, 30, Milan, Lombardy 20121, IT

Aug 12, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Another GROM gelato hits the trash can

Barberinibee I think you just might have a little chip on your shoulder about GROM. I scarcely recall seeing people on this board make it out to be Italy's premier gelato. Of course, the GROM guys want you to think that.

GROM is never my first choice but I think it is reliable and decent. In my book it is B+/A- gelato. I think their flavors are powerful and I appreciate the consistency of it. I don't like how sterile the shops are but I think that's the problem with the chain approach. Rivareno gelato suffers accordingly but I think their product is also fairly decent.

I don't want to say gelato is like wine but I will say everyone has a different palate for it. For instance, the first time I went to gelato del teatro in Rome, my foul tasting rum something or other ended up in the same place as Barberinibe's GROM melon.

How about folks that are lukewarm on GROM post where they'll walk past GROM to patronize. Here's two:

Milan--Bianco Latte

Venice--Gelateria Squero

Aug 11, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Day trips in Lombardy - Cremona, Brescia, and ...

Jen,

I'm doubtful that Hostaria '700 will surpass your choices but it is in the same ballpark. I enjoyed my meal there and I liked some of their old school touches. For example, my menu had all the prices, my wife's had none. Who does that anymore? For specialties, mostarda springs to mind. I think at the time of my visit, they also had frog on the menu. Here's a few links you might find useful. The first is Hostaria 700's site and the next is a site for restaurants in Cremona.

http://www.hosteria700.it/

http://guidaristoranti2010.crol.it/

May 25, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

NYC to Milan - Looking for great pizza, gelato, pasta with some veg options and others!

Searching this board will likely set you on the right path but for pizza, Sibilla is your best bet. Here's a few other choices for pizza. (though I think I've posted this link before)

http://milano.corriere.it/milano/localwebapp/Itinerario.do?p=13

For sandwiches, head to De Santis. Here's another link you might want to explore. You may see "Panino Giusto" in your adventures around town as it is a small chain. For me, however, it's "Panino non é Giusto." Even though the menu might seem alluring the reality is underwhelming.

http://milano.corriere.it/milano/localwebapp/Itinerario.do?p=13

For pasta, barberinibee is right, though of course, you'll find it whereever you go. I like Osteria Dei Poeti. It's more of a neighborhood, homestyle, type of place. I can't promise you the best meal you've ever had but it is in the center of Milan and they make their own pasta. The price is right, too.

http://www.milanomia.com/VIA/CORSOGAR...

Just an editorial aside: the only thing worse than Milan in July is Milan in August, but I sincerely hope you enjoy your trip.

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De Santis
9 Corso Magenta, Milan, Lombardia 20123, IT

May 23, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

[Rome] Il Pagliaccio

'The meal for the two of us cost more than my annual salary when I started work in 1966..."

Do tell where you worked in 1966 where your salary was about 15 pounds a week.

May 16, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

options for one day and night in Milan

It's in piazza repubblica. It's not within walking distance but many people on this board like Abele for risotto. It's probably about a mile or so away from the hotel.

Apr 15, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Milan, 2 lunches 2 dinners, bakeries and dessert!

Massimo Del Gelato
ChocoCult

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Massimo Del Gelato
Via Lodovico Castelvetro, Milan, Lombardia 20154, IT

ChocoCult
Via Michelangelo Buonarroti, Milan, Lombardia 20149, IT

Apr 09, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Milan, 2 lunches 2 dinners, bakeries and dessert!

20-min walk cheap lunches:

Last Supper: On Corso Magenta 9 walking back in the direction of the center is DeSantis sandwich shop. They have an extensive menu but it's not really a sit down place unless you can snag a stool or a small table. Could be hard at lunch.

Pane Salame: I've walked by this place a bunch but never eaten there. It seems decent and they have a lunch special. It's basically one giant city block away from the Cenacolo at Via Monti 6. On the other side of Piazza Virgilio (a big traffic circle) you'll find the aforementioned Chocolat. http://www.pane-e-salame.com/osteria.asp

Central Station:

This is not a restaurant, but Break Bianco on Corso Porta Nuova 32 does really nice small take away pizzas and focaccia. Again, this is a super cheap option but if it's a nice day you can do a lot worse than grabbing one or two things from here and then heading over to the Giardini Pubblici. Save on lunch, splurge on dinner.

ps-- will link rest. when I get a chance.

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Chocolat
9 Via Giovanni Boccaccio, Milan, Lombardia 20123, IT

De Santis
9 Corso Magenta, Milan, Lombardia 20123, IT

Apr 08, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Milan, 2 lunches 2 dinners, bakeries and dessert!

Jen, I would try the Princi location on Via Speronari which is truly the center of Milan. The other locations, like the Largo De Foppa location are certainly central enough. You could likely walk from one to the other in about 20 min.

For sweets, I like two places. They are both named Ranieri but they aren't related. The first is at via Moscova 7 and the closest stop is Turati. The other is on Via Volta 6 and the closest stop is Moscova. Both make all their own stuff. These are along the lines of the famous Cova pasticceria in Montenapoleone and while they aren't cheap, they are cheaper than Cova.

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Princi
6 Via Speronari, Milan, Lombardia 20123, IT

Pasticceria Ranieri
Via Alessandro Volta, Milan, Lombardia 20121, IT

Pasticceria Ranieri
Via della Moscova, Milan, Lombardia 20121, IT

Pattini and Marinoni
Corso Giuseppe Garibaldi, Milan, Lombardia 20121, IT

Cova Pasticceria
Via Monte Napoleone, Milan, Lombardia 20121, IT

Apr 06, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Milan, 2 lunches 2 dinners, bakeries and dessert!

Hi Turkob,

Search around a little on this board and you'll find some gelato recommendations. As for bakeries, are you looking for sweets, savories or both?

Princi is located around Milan and has sweet and savory but I think their breads are better than their sweets. http://www.princi.it/eng/movie_en.html

Another chain of bakeries around Milano is Pattini and Marinoni. They have a location in Cadorna Station, one on Via Garibaldi about a block away from the Moscova station, and one on via Brera at the corner of Ancona. I really like their olive bread sticks.

For the best gelato in more or less my personal order of preference: Massimo del Gelato, Bianco Latte, Chocolat, Chococult, Grom, RivaReno. Any of these is really outstanding. Grom and RivaReno have a few spots around Milano. Enjoy your trip.

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Princi
Largo La Foppa, Milan, Lombardia 20121, IT

Apr 06, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Moscato and lunch in Asti?

Here's a link to shops that participate in this year's chocopass. It's in a pdf under "participating establishments." I've never used the chocopass but at least the info here will let you plot your visit a little more specifically. I have eaten lots of chocolate in Torino. I think Gobino is probably my favorite. Treat yourself to the Gianduja cream spread. It's something special.

http://www.turismotorino.org/internaP...

Apr 03, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Seoul Solo Solutions

I've been in your shoes and you should relax. The places you are interested in will serve you no problem...especially because you are ordering single bowls of soup or dumplings. You might have a problem with the bossam because those kinds of dishes are usually ordered for a minimum of two people...at least in my experience trying to find a place that would serve me one order of bulgogi or samgyupsal. Even without the korean language I never had a problem. If you know what you want, you'll be fine.

Mar 30, 2011
badwaiter in China & Southeast Asia

Bringing Candy and Food Gifts to Italy

I'm not addicted, I can stop any time....

Mar 24, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Bringing Candy and Food Gifts to Italy

Now that this discussion has some nuance, I must unfortunately agree. What you should bring rises in proportion on a scale of "nothing" to "Stove Top" to how well traveled these folks are and how well you know them. Still, the simple act of bringing a gift is nice and even if they might not truly enjoy it, it's a very positive gesture. Still, in thinking hard about this question, I think I have a good answer for the kids at least. Make some rice crispy treats or bring them a bag of marshmallows.

I think the real question raised here is "What is mbfant's favorite brand of peanut butter?"

Mar 24, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Bringing Candy and Food Gifts to Italy

Yes, it's junk food. No I wouldn't give a complete stranger Stovetop but I would be ok with some of the others.

The OP wanted some suggestions. Now that you've covered what not to bring, how about answering their question?

I would hate to think that 'campanilismo' is so strong that no American food product would be well received by an Italian family.

Mar 24, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Bringing Candy and Food Gifts to Italy

In my experience, here are some things that are hard to find/novel.

Most kinds of American sweets-- a box of brownie mix or cookie mix might be interesting. Crunch and Munch or peanut brittle.

American breakfast foods-- one Italian friend thought pop tarts were disgusting (which they mostly are) but another liked them. I'd wager that the kids would like a box of Lucky Charms or Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

More savory--We're staying really lowbrow here but something like Stove-Top stuffing is from another planet. A good salsa might go over well too.

Hope this helps.

Mar 23, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Quick Milan visit

I'm thinking hard here. Do you want traditional or trendy or some kind of mix of both? Are you ok riding the metro short distances?

Right by the Navigli and about a block away from the Porta Genova green line stop, I enjoyed La Scaletta. They have an emphasis on fish but also have meat and risotto dishes. They have 45 euro tasting menu and the service was excellent. I played it safe and had an branzino with artichokes but I almost got the scallops with cauliflower and lavender. They have an excellent wine list. The food is presented creatively. The portions are not huge but definitely tasty. For two you'll spend about 80 euro.

La Scaletta--Piazzale Stazione Genova 3

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La Scaletta
Piazzale Stazione Genova, 3, Milan, Lombardia , IT

Feb 17, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Ferrara or Mantova

I second Antica Trattoria Volano. Here is a link to an old post from when I ate there.

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/4289...

However, between the two cities I would pick Mantova. Granted I visited Ferrara once, in July, but I think Mantova has a better combination of eating and sightseeing options. In Mantova I have enjoyed Due Cavallini which is a Slow Food pick. They do a really nice tortelli di zucca, and if you want a traditional dish of the region the bolliti misti is available. Owing to the name, I suppose, you can also find horse on the menu. The restaurant is rather large and they have a nice outdoor garden. If you go in the summer you might want to remember your repellent.

I also enjoyed Osteria Dell' Oca which also serves traditional Lombard food. It's been a few years so take this with a grain of salt but I think the food here aspires to add just a touch of flash to the traditional preparation. I had a risotto with some sort of sausage or cotechino. My wife had the tortelli di zucca. For desert there was a boozy sbrisolona. Be sure to try out this Mantovan specialty cake/cookie. The prices were a little high but the folks there were nice. Of the two I suppose the food of Osteria Del' Oca is bit better but for value Due Cavallini is superior. While in Mantova be sure to try something with mostarda. You also have great sites with the Ducal Palace and Palazzo Te along with the Basilica of Sant Andrea. If you have some Italian get a tour and see the relic of the Holy Blood. Enjoy.

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Antica Trattoria Volano
via Volano, 20, Ferrara, Emilia-Romagna 44123, IT

Due Cavallini
Via Salnitro, 5, Mantova, Lombardia 46100, IT

Osteria Dell' Oca
Via Trieste 37, Mantova, Lombardia 46100, IT

Feb 17, 2011
badwaiter in Italy

Milan

How near to your hotel is near? Do you need to walk? Will you take the subway a few stops? What about a cab? I can't speak to your recommendations very thoroughly but I do have some info.

1) Joia you'll need to cab or subway. I don't want to put words in her mouth but I do recall mbfant had a positive posting about it. I thought it was strictly vegetarian but in Italy I guess that means they probably serve fish.

2) Trussardi Alla Scala--this is the same as Marino Alla Scala. I think that might be the name of the building. Good reputation though I have never tried it. Nice location within walking distance from your hotel.

3) Savini got stale, closed down, and then reopened fully renovated in late 2008 or early 2009 if memory serves. It's in the Galleria so even closer than Trussardi. The chef there is young and worked at Cracco. I have not eaten there.

4) Bottiglieria Da Pino--This place is casual and runs a nice lunch special. The food is well centered on the region and prepared well. It is a nice choice for lunch but it is not fine dining. I like it. On a side note, if you like Valextra leather goods, their poorly marked bad looking outlet shop is right across the street. This might be about a 10 min walk or so from your hotel.

5) Aimo E Nadia is on the outskirts. You will need cab.

6) Al Mercante is not really fine dining. It is a nice restaurant that serves Milanese and Northern Italian. I fear it may be a bit touristy.

I don't know if you can trust Plotkin on Milan. I see he has a new edition of Italy for the Gourmet Traveler which I don't have but I found my copy from 2006 or 2007 was not updated very well when it came out. I'm not saying his opinions are wrong or bad, just the places he lists might not exist anymore. He posts on this board sometimes so maybe he can set us all straight.

I'm looking forward to your follow up report.

Jan 22, 2011
badwaiter in Italy