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Boca Wings & Ribs - new ownership & going to be a serious BBQ

Well, another one bites the dust, as the song says. OK, first, let's get Q out of the way. Q is made in two places: North Carolina and Texas. In NC it is pulled pork shoulder that has been pit (I mean a hole in the ground here, friends) cooked over hardwood charcoal by a pitmaster for however long he or she decides it needs. Being food, every day is different as no two pork shoulders are identical. The sauce is a mustard-vinegar-hot pepper one that is used to baste the meat while it smokes slowly. No one puts sauce on the finished product, or if they do, a teaspoon or two. In Texas, Q is beef (brisket, usually) that is smoked for about 24 hours or something and has a red ring inside the bark. Sauces vary, but staying away from the ones that taste like sugar is best. Everything else may be tasty and fun, but it ain't Q.

On to this place. I have no idea who these owners and chefs are, but they ruined the best wings place in South Florida by purchasing and closing Boca Wings and Ribs, which used to be Wings and Things. Some earlier interim owners--this place seems to change hands quite often--tried messing with the wings by going to a larger size a la Hooters, but quickly switched back after they were producing wings ALMOST as horrible as Hooters, but clearly no one can do that. Anyway, they went back to making the best wings anywhere until they closed it down for good, according to this article. Now, I don't know squat about the restaurant business, but I doubt very seriously if anyone closes a business that is making money. Since I have not been by there for a while--I only get to go out for wings a few times a year these days with my schedule--I don't know what actually happened, but I do know that I will not be ordering wings anywhere now. What a shame to take a fine place and do this to it. Maybe someone in the list of former owners and workers will figure out how to buy this place back from these people and re-open it and start serving the best wings anywhere again.

Oh, as for all the comments on the other supposed "Q" places in South Florida--you all are right. None of those places serves anything close to real "Q" and places like smoky bones should be shuttered on principle alone. Our crook of a governor should pass a law against false advertising by most places who advertise "Q" down here.

Oct 03, 2011
richopp in Miami - Fort Lauderdale

Boca Raton?

lawgical, Sorry you had a bad experience at the Sea Watch. They recently changed the menu, I am sorry to say, but they have been serving pretty much the same thing since 1974, so I guess change is due. I have not been since the change, so I can't really make new comments. Try it again; you might like it. Conch chowder with sherry on the side, conch fritters, the salad, the rolls, all great. I used to love the various fish dishes, so you might have been there on a bad night. Ask to sit on the porch if you can, and go upstairs and order from the raw bar and go outside and have a drink and some fresh seafood while staring at the water and the palm trees. You might like it after all...!

Sep 28, 2011
richopp in Miami - Fort Lauderdale

"Great" Restaurant Names

That's Kitzmiller's place in Chapel Hill. We were very good friends for many years, and it was a great place from day one.

Jun 23, 2011
richopp in Not About Food

Boca Raton?

Hi, Rex. Well, for Chinese I would suggest the Orient Diner, which is actually just north of Boca in Delray. It is in a strip mall on the NE corner of Linton Blvd and US 1 (Federal Hwy). The shrimp appetizer and the salad appetizer are great, as well as the rest of the menu. Small, decent prices, good. For sushi, I really don't know but one lady owns 3 places now--Sushi Thai in Boca across from Mizner Park, Lemongrass, I am not sure where, and the one I like, which is FAH. It is in another strip mall in NE Boca on Federal (US 1) in a Publix center just south of Hidden Valley Blvd, which is an E-W street. It is back in the corner of the "L" (as is the Orient Diner in Delray) and does a lobster dish (lobster monster) for 20.00 that is awesome. 1/2 tail and 1/2 sushi, and it is so big I split it since I don't eat sushi. Daughter and ex do and love it. I also like their namsod and other appetizers, so you should be good there. Reasonable but trendy! I wish I could help with more sushi, but not my thing. Oh, best burger around no matter what: Deerfield Beach, Hillsboro Blvd just east of US 1: Charm City. Amazingly good, but small place. You could have to wait. We do have a Houston's, but very hard to get into, as well as Seasons 52 around the corner, also hard to get into especially during the season. Beer geek--you will have to try someone else. I have been out of college for a long time...try Atlantic Avenue in Delray. They have a bit of everything. Enjoy Boca!

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Seasons 52
2300 NW Executive Center Dr, Boca Raton, FL 33431

Feb 16, 2011
richopp in Miami - Fort Lauderdale

Sweet or Savory Cornbread?

Growing up in the South, I was surprised to eat "sweet" cornbread when outside of this region. I never put sugar in cornbread, and always use a great recipe from, believe it or not, Emeril--http://www.emerils.com/recipe/4586/Al...

It is an excellent example of real Southern cornbread.

Cheers!

Jan 03, 2011
richopp in Features

Brining Shrimp before cooking?

I have been doing this all my adult life. I learned it in the early '60s when we used to buy shrimp off the boat at the docks. We would take them home at once and what we did not eat we would freeze in a cardboard milk cartons in sea water. Defrost them 6 months later and they tasted as fresh as the day we got them! I soon figured out with today's farmed shrimp that brining was important. I use kosher or sea salt in water for about 20 minutes or so before I make ANY shrimp dish--grilled, boiled (with Louisiana Crawfish boil--SPICY, so be careful!), deep or pan fried, stir fried--whatever method you use--brining works very well. Now, if you are getting fresh Gulf shrimp right off the boat, brining is probably unnecessary if you cook them up right away.

Apr 09, 2010
richopp in Home Cooking

Peanuts in soda?

Yep, Virginia, too. Coke or even Pepsi had to have a pack of Lance peanuts poured in it or it wasn't right. Hey, whatever happened to French Pastery? These were also enjoyed with this drink. Oblong, about 6" or so, yellow cake with a big squirt of cream filling down the center and cheap chocolate frosting all over. I remember all this well...Eastern and Central VA in the late '50s and early '60s. When I went to college in NC, though, we pretty much drank beer instead of Cokes...but that's another story. Thanks for the memories!

Mar 19, 2010
richopp in General Topics

Hamburger Honeymoon

There's one in G'ville--or used to be right across from campus. There's one in Ft. Lauderdale on Sunrise and Powerline. Haven't been to the one in G'ville since 1980, and was never sober when I was there. Haven't been to the one in Ft. Lauderdale yet, but plan to sometime.

Jan 25, 2010
richopp in General South Archive

Best burger in Raleigh?

Ha! I haven't had a burger at PRs (Player's Retreat) since 1966, but they were good then...thanks for reminding me of a really fun place. I almost remember being there...!

Jan 25, 2010
richopp in Southeast

Hamburger Honeymoon

On your way back, get off I-95 at Hillsboro Blvd (Deerfield Beach, FL) and go east just past US 1/Federal Highway. On your right BEFORE THE NEXT LIGHT will be a TV repair and a 7-11 or one of those places. Turn right into the convenince store parking lot and you will be at Charm City Burgers. Whatever you get will be awesome. Enjoy!

Jan 25, 2010
richopp in General South Archive

Best brownie mixes? Duncan HInes?

I will have to get back to you on that one. I don't make them often, so I will have to look for it. It MIGHT be in The Cake Bible or in Fanny Farmer, which has surprisingly good things that you sometimes have to adjust a little. Her chocolate drop cookies are super--I leave out the coffee as I don't care for it, and add white chips to the chocolate ones for fun. I do use Ghiradelli products when I make them, however. And of course, who doesn't love going to the Ghiradelli Square store when in SF if for nothing else just to smell that place. Gets me every time!

Sep 11, 2009
richopp in General Topics

Best brownie mixes? Duncan HInes?

I have not tried Buffalo WW yet, but will do so. Thanks very much for the suggestion. In my town we have a small, independent place that has been making my favorite wings for over 20 years, so when i need a wing fix I go there. I have tasted wings from other places, of course, but still prefer our little hometown place. FYI, I get them plain with sauce on the side so I can control the heat factor! Their sauces tend to be hot, so this helps me with that part. There is a Buffalo WW place around here somewhere, however, so I will find it and check it out! Thank you!

Sep 11, 2009
richopp in General Topics

Best brownie mixes? Duncan HInes?

There's one in every crowd, I guess. sorry, but I tried the Ghiardelli and I thought they had no flavor whatsoever. I use their chips, cocoa, and chocolate sometimes when baking from scratch and am happy with the flavor I get with those products, but I only bought the mix once and was disappointed. The one I bought at Costco had, I believe either 2 or 3 batches in the box, and I made all of them, thinking that in the first one I made an error. Unfortunately, none of the batches had any discernable flavor at all. I have also found this to be true at Fudruckers and with Domino's pizza. Neither of these places create food with any discernable flavors. Another pet peeve is Hooters. How can a company serve such horrible wings as a signature product? And even the ladies were unattractive at the one that eventually closed in my town. I guess maybe that's why it closed, huh?

Sep 11, 2009
richopp in General Topics

great cold soup recipe?

Madrid--Good idea. The best cold soup I ever had was at the American Bounty room at CIA many years ago. They had a honeydew and a cantaloupe version and they blew me away as I am NOT a fan of cold soups. The thing I remember most is the honeydew soup. One spoonful tasted like every honeydew melon in the world had been condensed into one soup spoon, it was that intense. Alas, they don't give out recipes, but I am sure somewhere you can find one for a soup like that. I would provide the rest of the meal information, but I have the menus at home and can't remember. I used to teach classes in Poughkeepsie for my company and on Wed night I always held a "dinner" over there. This was in the 1980's, so "a long time ago," but they served food that was as good as any I have ever eaten. If you ever get a chance to go, do so. They also have a French rest--the Escoffier Room, but it was too rich for my expense account budget!

Aug 14, 2009
richopp in Home Cooking

Appreciating pound cake

I can't put the recipie up because it comes from a copyrighted book, but try Ruth Barenbaum's recipie in her book (Cake Bible). It uses 12 egg yolks! It is one great pound cake, as if there could be a bad pound cake...

Jul 10, 2009
richopp in Home Cooking

Radishes... what to do w/ them?

I use chopped red radishes as the "secret ingredient" in American-style potato salad. I use fewer or no onions and it does not seem to matter. Dice them very fine.

May 08, 2009
richopp in Home Cooking

coal oven pizza

Hi, Jay--If you find yourself in the Boca area during your stay, try Coal Mine Pizza in the old Royal Palm Plaza--they may still call it that today. The pizzas are a bit pricey, but they are pretty good! I think that there are several other coal fired pizza places around--there may be one on Atlantic Avenue in Delray Beach, also.

Enjoy!

Richard

Apr 22, 2008
richopp in Florida

Boca Raton?

qblcsw--You got that right! While I can not go there myself, I have been entertained there and at NY Prime across the street and like Abe better. Funny part is that it used to be a bar called the Elephant Walk, which was a fun place, too. Then a Hooters moved in, I THINK--so many changes here that sometimes I get confused! Anyway, I think I insulted them last time I was there by saying to the waiter, after I tasted my excellent dish, that it sure wasn't the Elephant Walk anymore...just joking, you know, but I think he was not happy with my comment...Oh, someone above mentioned good sandwiches. The V&S Special at the V&S Deli on Federal just north of 20th Street is pretty good if you like the Italian Sub in large portions. Very busy at lunch--best to go in a bit early or late for the best service as it is very small. Another new find is Bluefin, up on Congress and Yamato. Excellent Thai food and friends say the sushi is also good. Until next time...

Sep 18, 2007
richopp in Miami - Fort Lauderdale

Boca Raton?

Hi, all. Hey, great Italian choices you guys put up. I have to try some of them. A place that some guys from work tried with customers the other day--BOHEME in Delray on Atlantic. Yes, I know, Atlantic is a bit for tourists these days, but the group of 10 all tried different things and said the place was great. Things tried included duck, ribs (!), pasta, and various appetizers. They really liked everything, so you may want to give it a try and let us "less fortunates" know how it is. The prices are basic for the area, but a bit high for me right now. I printed out the menu and the shrimp dish in wine, EVOO, feta, mushrooms, etc. sounded pretty good to me! I had lunch (business) at Cabana El Ray on Atlantic and it was good if a bit pricy. Somewhat different than others. I kind of like Miami for Cuban, but there are places here and there that are good for specific dishes. I hear Cabana has a REAL Cuban sandwich, so I will give it a try and let you all know. By the way, for Mexican/Latin, I love Las Fajitas on Dixie in Boca. I think you either love it or not; I love it and am not shy about saying so...I have tried pretty much everything but the fajitas (I know, I will next time...the carne asada is just one of my favorites so I usually get that these days) and I like it all from the chips and salsa to the flan. They have a green (hot) salsa that you have to ask for, but it is good. Sister places include Senor Burrito around the corner--mostly the same but green sauces vs mostly red for Las Fajitas. The one in Delray is not, in my opinion, as good as the one in Boca, but maybe I got it on a bad night. That's all for now--thanks for the appetizer tip for JB's, Linda VH. Next time I am forced to go I will give it a try. Also, munchabunch, you are right on...I promise you the Sea Watch is not like that at all! Ah, for the old days at Harris' Imperial House and the original Pal's...oh, by the way, Augy's got bought out and I don't know the result. New (old) pizza place for take out is Jerry's right up the street. Renzo's is also good and whatever happened to Villa Venizia?? Joe and his son really had the best food around, IMHO. Time passes...

Jan 31, 2007
richopp in Miami - Fort Lauderdale

Boca Raton?

Andy--That's a great recommendation. Thanks! By the way, I had heard that Max R. had taken over the MUVICO, but have not been there yet. Has anyone been yet? The last people runnig that place had food that was, well, average, I guess.

Nov 09, 2006
richopp in Miami - Fort Lauderdale

Boca Raton?

Great ideas on here! Lived here for 35 years, seen them come and go. Quickly, JBs is a mystery to me, but some people like it. My take: WAY overpriced, WAY too much attitude, very average food. (Sorry if I offended some...). Chinese: Uncle Tai's is a marketing joke. The food is not just bad, its really bad, and the attitude and prices are another joke. Orient Palace, NE Boca. Period. Beach--Sorry, you really have to go to the Sea Watch in Ft. Lauderdale to get the real deal. Close by, but way more expensive and eclectic, is the Sunfish Grill on Atlantic in Pompano. Reservations a must. (These places are 15 minutes south of Boca.) Blue Moon--its OK, you will probably like it. La Tre cousin Cay Da is a great suggestion! Italian--gosh, how to choose? There's a place on Federal called Arturo's that has been there for many, many years that charges a ton of money ($17-for pasta; $30 for entree)--everything al a carte. I guess it must be good, but way over my budget. I really can't say one Italian place is better than the other as they are pretty much the same. For pizza, most of us go to Augy's on 2nd Ave. I know of one new Italian place that is very expensive but good; very ITALIAN, if you get my drift. I will post the name as soon as I eat there again. J Alexanders is a big chain with really good food at a slightly elevated price, but good none-the-less. Flannigan's (Guppy's or Big Daddy's) is a bar chain that serves food. Burgers, fish sandwiches (not bad if you 'catch' them on a good day) and so forth. Good, fun, and very reasonable. Good for watching the game. They are all over SOFLA with slightly different names. Like one poster said, plenty of $$ down here, so plenty of good places. Many locals don't really go out much during the season due to long wait times, but visitors don't mind it much. I don't when I visit other places.

"Secret" local place for Sunday AM breakfast (or lunch if you partied to hard and got up late):
Long drive, long wait, fun experience: John Gs on the ocean at Lake Worth. About the only place here I will wait in line for food.

Nov 06, 2006
richopp in Miami - Fort Lauderdale