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Our two favorites in Oaxaca

Thanks! :-)

about 10 hours ago
Anonimo in Mexico

Heading to Morelia, Patzcuaro, Uruapan - where to eat????

Yes, Quiroga, Michoacán is considered THE place for the best carnitas. Our Mexican neighbors showed us which stand on the main street, just off the plaza that they preferred. I'm not certain, but I think it was Juanito's. Note that "Juanito" was wearing a Carnitas Carmelo's shirt. Carmelo's is a regional chain or franchise. I don't really know how it works, but chances are you'll get good carnitas in Quiroga.

In Pátzcuaro, many people swear by Carnitas Dos Plazas, on Calle Iturbe. It opens at noon. I think it's closed Mondays. It may open earlier on Saturday. There is no seating inside except a narrow counter and some stools. The carnitas are good, but those in Quiroga are arguably better. I have been to Carnitas Dos Plazas only twice on the 10 years we've lived here. But I also try to limit my carnitas intake to about twice a year.

Yuban, Colonia Roma. We ate there a couple of years ago and were somewhat disappointed. Although obviously a lot of thought had gone into the dishes and, especially, their presentation, it was an uneven meal.
I just referred back to my blog post on Yuban from July 13, 2013 http://tinyurl.com/l23e8f7, and I see that we liked some of the dishes but not others. The service was of the hovering, "close encounters" type, a service which takes away my enjoyment of the meal. Also, Yuban was the first restaurant where we had desserts (pan de elote and pay de queso de cabra) that each cost $100 pesos.

Overall, we felt that the prices were high. Our bill was $795 MXP for two. Whenever possible, we prefer to eat regional food within that region. You can get a superior counterpart to this cuisine in Oaxaca, at more reasonable prices. Granted, you have to be in Oaxaca.

Example: during a recent stay in Oaxaca, we ate twice at La Coronita, at Diaz Ordaz 208, Centro, in the Hotel Valle de Oaxaca which was very much to our liking.
On our last visit, a week ago, three of us ate well for a total of $671 MXP. That included three mezcales de la casa. Their Sopa de Guias defines purity and freshness. http://tinyurl.com/GuiasCoronita

That which we were served at Yuban was murky, with tangles of greens. http://tinyurl.com/GuiasYuban

about 21 hours ago
Anonimo in Mexico

Heading to Morelia, Patzcuaro, Uruapan - where to eat????

Yes, Quiroga, Michoacán is considered THE place for the best carnitas. Our Mexican neighbors showed us which stand on the main street, just off the plaza that they preferred. I'm not certain, but I think it was Juanito's. Note that "Juanito" was wearing a Carnitas Carmelo's shirt. Carmelo's is a regional chain or franchise. I don't really know how it works, but chances are you'll get good carnitas in Quiroga.

In Pátzcuaro, many people swear by Carnitas Las Dos Plazas, on Calle Iturbe. It opens at noon. I think it's closed Mondays. It may open earlier on Saturday. There is no seating inside except a narrow counter and some stools. The carnitas are good, but those in Quiroga are arguably better. I have been to Carnitas Las Dos Plazas only twice on the 10 years we've lived here. But I also try to limit my carnitas intake to about twice a year.

Yuban, Colonia Roma: We ate there a couple of years ago and were somewhat disappointed. Although obviously, a lot of thought had gone into the dishes and, especially, their presentation, it was an uneven meal.

I just referred back to my blog post on Yuban from July 13, 2013 http://tinyurl.com/l23e8f7, and I see that we liked some of the dishes but not others. The service was of the hovering, "close encounters" type, a service which takes away my enjoyment of the meal. Also, Yuban was the first restaurant where we had desserts (pan de elote and pay de queso de cabra) that each cost $100 pesos.

Overall, we felt that the prices were high. Our bill was $795 MXP for two. Whenever possible, we prefer to eat regional food within that region. You can get a superior counterpart to this cuisine in Oaxaca, at more reasonable prices. Granted, you have to be in Oaxaca.

Example: during a recent stay in Oaxaca, we ate twice at La Coronita, at Diaz Ordaz 208, Centro, in the Hotel Valle de Oaxaca which was very much to our liking.
On our last visit, a week ago, three of us ate well for a total of $671 MXP. That included three mezcales de la casa. Their Sopa de Guias defines purity and freshness. http://tinyurl.com/GuiasCoronita

That which we were served at Yuban was murky, with tangles of greens. http://tinyurl.com/GuiasYuban

about 21 hours ago
Anonimo in Mexico

Our two favorites in Oaxaca

We have eaten twice at La Biznaga, a year apart. Overall, we like it very much.
The food is good looking without being fussy, and the flavors are bold.

Unfortunately, the wonderful Sopa Del Establo that our friend had last year, arrived at our table this year a travesty of what it should have been.

Last year, it was as described on the menu as a cream of Roquefort with a touch of chipotle, garnished with toasted pepitas. This year, it more resembled dishwater with a few bubbles and had essentially no taste. (O.k. There was a puny scattering of seeds.)

I sent it back and it was taken off our bill.

Fortunately, the other dishes were much better.

Our recent meal is described in more detail, plus photos, on my blog.

http://tinyurl.com/oz533vz

Jan 26, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Anybody stayed in Zihuatenajo lately?

We might try it next time we are in Zihua.

Jan 21, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Anybody stayed in Zihuatenajo lately?

"Last night we walked up to Taqueria Poco Loca - now they are taking baked stuffed potatoes to another whole level! "

Is that place the same as Papa Loca? Haven't been there yet but we have been many times to Carmelita's Café, which has mostly excellent food. Open for breakfast and lunch, closes about 4 P.M.
http://tinyurl.com/cv5xxvg

Jan 20, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Anybody stayed in Zihuatenajo lately?

Maggie19; tomates criollos are not unique to Zihua. We have also found them in abundance last winter and now (Jan. 2015) in the Mercado La Democracia (AKA Mercado de La Merced) in Oaxaca. I'll go out on a limb and speculate that they are sold in other mercados in Oaxaca. The second visit to Z we found the tomates criollos to be smaller and less ripe. So far, the Oaxacan specimens are superior. (My wife says the small to medium size tomates are best, as the larger often get pithy areas inside.) YMMV.

I don't *think* they are hybrids, but OTOH, a variety of heirloom tomatoes. I'll try to upload a photo or two.

The photo on the left shows the Oaxacan tomatoes; on the right are the Zihua tomatoes of last year.

Jan 20, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Anybody stayed in Zihuatenajo lately?

In my earlier reply, I forgot to mention that we'd also stayed at Bungalows La Madera, in Colonia Madera. They have numerous rooms with kitchenettes. Sizes and amenities/qualities vary. Overall, it's a nice place. But it probably costs more than your budget mentioned above. http://www.bungalowslamadera.com/

It's not near the mercado, but on a hillside street toward the beach, above what I call the Calle Adelita Gringo Gourmet Gulch. (Not to disparage the restaurants there, as some are quite good.)

Jan 20, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Anybody stayed in Zihuatenajo lately?

Some of the rooms at the Paraiso have kitchen counters and sinks. I have read but not confirmed that they can bring in a small refrigerator on request. The rooms to which I refer are those on the second and third floors (as far as I went) and face Calle Mangos. Some have ceiling fans, others do not. All had AC as far as I know. Those rooms are larger and cost more. Last year, in early December, they were $600 pesos.

We enjoyed picking up some fresh fruits and vegetables at the mercado municipal and the mercado de campesinos (virtually across the street from the hotel.) Be sure to try the tomates criollos. You can get them in the mercado de campesinos and in the street next to Super Merza, about 1 block or less Centro-ward from the hotel.

I may have mentioned it before, but IMO, the best restaurant in Zihua is Doña Licha's, on Calle Cocos, just a block south of Calle Mangos. Next, is the very nice, but pricier (it's been "discovered") Carmelita's Café, on Colegio Militar, about 5-6 blocks north of the hotel FP.

Say Hola to Sra.Paty and her family from us.

¡Buen provecho!

Jan 19, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Oaxaca Xmas

DD, thanks for the encouragement. We may try SP.

Jan 12, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Oaxaca Xmas

Yes, I appreciate getting an idea of prices at Origen or any other upscale restaurant. We usually avoid those higher end places, due to bitterly disappointing experiences in some, (all in the DF), but I am intrigued by the enthusiasm for Origen.

Jan 12, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Oaxaca Xmas

Thanks for that, DD. I'm continually fascinated by the extremes of opinions on TripAdvisor. Some reviewers love Restaurante SP while a few had very negative experiences."Salt" was a culprit in some reviews.

In fact, I walked over to Restaurante San Pablo yesterday evening. I didn't see a sign, so I stuck my head in the door to inquire. I didn't exactly get a warm welcome, but that's my impression.

Our best dining experiences so far in two days in Oaxaca were Marisquería La Red (good straight ahead seafood, no attitude) and Fonda Teresita, in the Mercado de La Merced, where we enjoyed delicious breakfasts of enchiladas and tasajo, and it was a real bargain.

Jan 12, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Oaxaca Xmas

DD and Cristina; what's a typical cost per meal at Origen? We are in Oaxaca now, and I'm intrigued by your enthusiasm for it. But I am always dubious when considering higher end restaurants, especially in light of comments on TripAdvisor about "plenty of attitude."

Note that Origen is closed Sundays. We walked by this afternoon, hoping to look at a menu, but it was closed. Their website is cryptic and uninformative.
http://www.origenoaxaca.com/home.html

Jan 11, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Oaxaca: Restaurant La Coronita

Yesterday, I learned for the first time of Restaurant La Coronita, in the Hotel Valle de Oaxaca, Oaxaca. It's on Av. Diaz Ordaz. In the booklet a friend lent us, the food is described as very traditional, and almost all of the famed siete moles are available. The Sopa de Guias is described as an outstanding dish.

Reading TripAdvisor reviews on this place reinforce the good reports. Has anyone on Chowhound eaten at La Coronita? Your opinions are valuable. We are definitely considering going there.

https://es-es.facebook.com/pages/Rest...

Jan 05, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Heading to Morelia, Patzcuaro, Uruapan - where to eat????

Today we met a friend at El Camino Real on the outskirts of Pátzcuaro. We arrived just before 1:00 p.m. The dining room was busy but not yet full. Tables had as usual been prepared in the semi-outdoors for the inevitable Sunday overflow.

The tables were set with crusty teleras rolls, butter and bowls of very picante pickled carrots, onions, salsa verde and chiles perón.

Most of the diners seemed to be eating breakfast. In fact, when our friend ordered, he asked for Huevos Camino Real, a version of huevos albañil, or softly scrambled eggs in a spicy tomato and chile sauce.

My wife and I requested the Menú del día. There were more than 25, even 30 main dishes from which to choose.

I started with an excellent bowl of Sopa Tarasca, followed by a small plate of not bad, not great rice with a spoonful of just passable mole on the side.

After much deciding, I requested Enchiladas Suizas con Pollo. The dish was creamy and delectable. I added some salsa verde from the salsera on the table, which cut the richness just a bit without adding picante heat.

We drank café de olla, hot tea (this was a seasonally cold day) and agua mineral. (Drinks are extra from the comida. The comida completa itself cost $70 pesos. USD $4.72

We were offered a choice of desserts, which came in the usual mini plastic portion cups. We chose tamarindo, which wasn't bad.

When we were leaving, at about 2:30, the dining room was starting to fill. El Camino Real is a very popular restaurant with visitors to Pátzcuaro, and with good reason.

Jan 04, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Heading to Morelia, Patzcuaro, Uruapan - where to eat????

Here are some photos of La Mesa de Blanca. It's still one of my most favorite restaurants in Michoacán, despite occasional slips. https://picasaweb.google.com/doncueva...

Dec 27, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

Heading to Morelia, Patzcuaro, Uruapan - where to eat????

I'm back.

Morelia:

Parroquia Inmaculada cenas. A nightly church supper of antojitos. I've not been there, but it is very popular. Cristina could tell you more.

Fonda Marceva, Calle Abasolo, Centro: spicy, delicious foods of La Tierra Caliente. $$

La Plazuela del Bosque, Calle Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz, Cuban specialties. The Banquete Cubano is a real bargain. $$$

Parrilla y Canilla; Av. JJ Tablada, Colonia Santa María. Uruguayan and Italian wood grilled specialties. Top quality meats, nice wines. Refined, casual atmos. $$$$

Pátzcuaro: Not much to brag about here. El Camino Real at the Pemex station on the highway to Morelia is notable for large comida corridas. Not all is great, but the menu is long and and you can with luck find something you like.

Mariscos La Güera at Federico Tena and Libramiento in Pátzcuaro: Fresh seafood. Keep it simple and you'll be fine. Closes by 6 p.m. $$

Lupita's: Cuesta de Tata Don Vasco. Closed Wednesday. Pleasant patio dining. The Ensalada Lupita's (molded chicken salad) is notably dull. $$$

La Surtidora: Portal Hidalgo, Plaza Don Vasco. Breakfasts are good, lunches, best coffee in town. Sidewalk tables are the Number One place for public social life in Pátzcuaro Centro. $$

Uruapan:
Cocina Económica Mary's, Av Independencia. Large comida corrida menu; tasty meals, low prices. $

Ziracuaretiro
Between Pátzcuaro and Uruapan: La Mesa de Blanca: ONLY Th, F, Sa, Su only for comida. Very well prepared regional foods. We especially like the Chiles Capones appetizer and the Conejo either a las brasas or in three juices. The Agua Fresca de Zarzamora is not to be missed. Seafood items are less successful.
$$$$

Also in Ziracuaretiro: El Gorgeo; an idyllic country restaurant in a lovely outdoor setting, (opposite side of Ziracua from La Blanca), serving a delicious but select breakfast menu. We like the enmoladas and enchiladas verdes. $$$
Daily, 9:00-1:00

Dec 25, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

5 Days in Mexico City. Need help by neighbourhood.

See Nico's web page for their hours.

Dec 24, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

Heading to Morelia, Patzcuaro, Uruapan - where to eat????

Sorry, Kathy, life intruded and I'm not able to answer this question at this time.

Dec 18, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

Heading to Morelia, Patzcuaro, Uruapan - where to eat????

Chatty, I'm thinking over my list of interesting and worthy restaurants in that area. I'll try to get back to you shortly.

Dec 16, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

Heading to Morelia, Patzcuaro, Uruapan - where to eat????

Do you require Mexican food? I ask because there's some excellent international food available, especially in Morelia.

One of the best Michoacán regional restaurants is La Mesa de Blanca in the little town of Ziracuaretiro between Pátzcuaro and Uruapan. But it's only open weekends and Thursdays.

Dec 16, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

MEXICO CITY, Fall, 2014..Food Notes

Nicos: an excellent choice.

Nov 24, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

MEXICO CITY, Fall, 2014..Food Notes

Keep it coming ...

Nov 20, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

Going back to Zihuantanejo

What's your opinion of El Arrayan?

Nov 08, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

Going back to Zihuantanejo

We have dined at Carmelita's Cafe on numerous occasions, both for breakfast and comida. Overall, we find it's delightful. On rare occasions, it slips some, yet it comes back.

Tamales y atoles Any has excellent food, but IMO, it's overpriced.

For an authentic, down-home experience. I highly recommend Fonda Doña Licha's, on Calle Cocos, about a block from Paseo del Palmar. Delicious food at bargain prices, in an immaculately clean setting.

Haven't been to El Murmullo.

Nov 06, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

Virgin Tacos Anyone?

No worriews. THere will be no English style tacos.
http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/will-...

(By the way, one of my favorite tacos is the "Taco Inglés" as prepared at El Huequito on Bolívar in Centro DF.)

Oct 25, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

Help Refine Oaxaca list, please!

I have had barbacoa de borrego in two different places in Oaxaca. The first is at a family run puesto on Calle Aldama at the corner of Calle Hidalgo, Barrio Jalatlaco.* (This is just around the side of Hotel Casa Arnel.) It's available only on Sunday mornings. I would rate it as "pretty good", but not outstanding.

*Keep in mind that Barrio/Colonia Jalatlaco is a small village assimilated by the city of Oaxaca, and still retains its own street names, some of which are duplicated in Oaxaca proper.

The other barbacoa place was a few years ago at the Friday tianguis at the north end of El Lllano/Parque Júarez.

Unfortunately, I don't have a name for that place. I recall that the barbacoa was very good. The Friday tianguis at El Llano is definitely worth going to, as there are many stands and temporary restaurants, offering mouthwatering food.

Oct 14, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

PUEBLA..SEEKING RECOMMENDATIONS

We enjoyed La Rana for tacos árabes and tacos pastor.
I tried a cemita at El Mercado de Carmen, and while the process of elaboration was interesting, the sandwich was just too heavy for my taste.

Sep 28, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

First time to DF

Of the places on your list, we have eaten at the following:
• La Reina de la Roma: good, but not worth a special trip. There are numerous places like it.

• Contramar: I had an unsatisfactory experience there, in part due to my mood. Too much noise, though. Expensive. For seafood, I greatly prefer the more intimate, far less expensive Fonda La Veracruzana, on the corner of Calle Medellín and Calle Chiapas, Colonia Roma Norte. You won't need a reservation!
It can get very busy on weekend afternoons, and the service suffers.

• Tostadas Coyoacán. Walked past it, on our way to Los Danzantes. (another disappointment) Wish we'd eaten at TC instead.

• El Huequito (the sit down restaurant on Calle Bolívar). We have had many excellent meals and another not as good there. I would still return.

• El Hidalguense, ate there twice. Very good, but better barbacoa can be had elsewhere. The key to understanding why this is so is that the barbacoa at El Hidalguense is prepared at a location miles away, then transported in for service Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays.

• Rosetta. Ate there once. Disappointing. Very crowded on that occasion: flawed service, some of the fish dishes were overly subtle for my taste. The baked in-house breads were the highlight of the meal. VERY expensive. I won't be back.

•Café El Popular: It's a coffeeshop.

I agree wholeheartedly with your choice of Nico's.

Sep 08, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico

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Sep 05, 2014
Anonimo in Mexico