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good street food town within bus range of Guadalajara?

You might keep in mind that the street and mercado food in Pátzcuaro is, overall, more distinctive and interesting than most of the sit-down restaurant food. The latter is at best just slightly better than mediocre.

Of sit down restaurants, we like El Camino Real, which is a venerable roadhouse located behind a Pemex gas station on the outskirts in the direction of Morelia. The set lunch menu is about $60 MXP, and there is a wide selection of interesting dishes (but NOT "gourmet" fare! It's more like home cooking.) from which to choose. The comida corrida is served from about 1:00 onward, until about 6:00, but some items will run out. Weekend afternoons see lines of Mexican families waiting for a table. It's best to get there before 2:30 on weekends.

El Camino Real also serves hearty breakfasts, of which a highlight are the crusty, sourdough telera rolls from a local wood fired bakery oven.

Jul 11, 2015
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good street food town within bus range of Guadalajara?

If you are already in Morelia and want to bus to Pátzcuaro, no need to go out to the central bus station,which involves backtracking. Instead, get a taxi (about $40 MP) from Centro Morelia to Xangari, where there is a street side bus stop. Your cab driver will know it. There you can get a Lineas Purhépechas bus (2nd class) that will take you to Pátzcuaro, stopping along the way to let passengers on and off. NOT to be confused with Lineas Parihikuni, which does not stop at Pátzcuaro, but continues on to Uruapan and then to the Pacific coast.

Xangari also has taxis colectivos, which can save you money if you don't mind sharing a cab with strangers.
We have occasionally just negotiated a taxi fare to take us from Morelia's Central Bus Station to our home north of Pátzcuaro. Last year, from the Central de Autobuses, the fare was about $400 MXP. It should be a little less to take you to Pátzcuaro.

Jul 04, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

good street food town within bus range of Guadalajara?

I neglected to list the Hotel El Refugio, also on the Plaza Chica, just a few doors to the right of the Gran Hotel and across from Banamex. It looks like it belongs in the upper echelon of lodging in Pátzcuaro.

Jul 04, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

good street food town within bus range of Guadalajara?

Yes, Pátzcuaro. It has some good tamales, corundas and tacos de cabeza. At night, atole de grano, a savory corn soup flavored with anicillo. May like the enchiladas placeras served with chicken, at the Plaza Chica at night, but I have never been drawn to eat that dish.
I love Pátzcuaro's mercado, with its warts. (Mostly irregular, broken pavements.)

There are a few hotels within a short distance of the mercado. The Gran Hotel, and the Hotel Parroquia are in the the upper echelon.

Jul 03, 2015
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Questions About Authentic Mexican Tacos

I need to get over to Quiroga more often. It's not far.

Jun 05, 2015
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Oaxaca for dummies

In January of 2015, we spent a couple of weeks in Oaxaca.

La Biznaga can be good, but unfortunately it's inconsistent. I was served a Sopa de Establo that was a pathetic bowl of cloudy, roux thickened broth, nothing like the blue cheese rich soup our friend had enjoyed the year before. I sent it back.

The Mercado de La Merced appealed so much, that we stayed in a small, not fancy hotel across the street: Hotel El Rincón de Doña Bety. We ate in fondas within, some very good, others less so but acceptable, as well as small restaurants in the neighborhood.

The juice stands in the Mercado de La Merced became my every morning haunt.

Some fruit and vegetable vendors had wonderful tomates criollos for sale, of which we took advantage and made tortas back at the hotel.

We enjoyed many restaurants, although our meal at Las Quince Letras (comida corrida) was disappointing.

Our favorite place was Las Coronita, in the Hotel Valle de Oaxaca, at Díaz Ordaz 208, Centro. We loved the sober atmosphere of the dining room and the food was very well prepared. Sopa de Guías con Chochoyotes was a big hit.
http://mexkitchen.blogspot.mx/2015/01...

Jun 02, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Mexico City - on a Monday night in July!

La Morenita is all right (been there three times) but La Veracruzana is even better, IMHO.

May 27, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Mexico City - on a Monday night in July!

We really like Fonda La Veracruzana, at the corner of Calle Medellín #198 and Calle Chiapas, Colonia Roma. It's small, casual, the food and service are good. It's not hyper like I found Contramar to be, and I think it's much more economical. There are several menues del día offered M-F at good prices. However, I don't know how late it's open.
Queremoscomer.com says it's open until 8 p.m. But I would try to be there earlier.
http://mexkitchen.blogspot.mx/2011/09...

May 25, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Mexico City for 12 hours

¡Amigos! The OP asked about street food and markets, and some of you are sending him to high end restaurants, some in far flung parts of the city.
DonMGood; are you interested in Mexican food or international cuisine? I suspect that you want the former.

While I would agree that Condesa and Coyoacan are lovely, let's face it: the Condesa "scene" is similar to other areas of casual, affluent lounging in other world cities. If I were recommending somewhere to eat in Coyoacan, it would not be the over hyped Los Danzantes, (where we had a less than satisfactory meal a few years back) but instead, Tostadas Coyoacan in the Mercado. Or perhaps El Jardin del Pulpo for mariscos, (although I'm doubtful it's worth a long out of the way taxi ride.)

But more realistically, given the distance from the airport to Coyoacan, I would suggest instead the following, centrally located zone: the area surrounding the Mercado San Juan, bounded on the south by Calle Ernesto Pugibet, on the north by Calle Ayuntamiento, on the west by Calle Luis Moya, but with especial emphasis on Calle López, which runs north-south and forms a tenuous boundary on the east.

Calle López and surrounding streets are packed with fondas and street food stalls. Not the least of the latter is the famous Ricos Tacos Toluca, on a short cross street, Puente Peredo, between Arandas and López. Although I would hesitate to eat anything so rich and picante (although delicious) as the specialty chorizos and longanizas of that stand before a flight.

Calle López has numerous options for eating. We have only eaten at Caldos de Gallina El Paisa, probably a saner option than Ricos Tacos Toluca.

I do like breakfast at El Cardenal, on Calle Palma, Centro, but it's not a market! But that would be my Number One Restaurant recommendation for the OP, if he'd rather have comfortable seating, well prepared food and excellent service, instead of the rough and tumble of street or market venues.

http://mexkitchen.blogspot.mx/2013/11...

Some hopefully relevant blog posts:

http://mexkitchen.blogspot.mx/2012/04...

http://mexkitchen.blogspot.mx/2012/04...

May 12, 2015
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MEGA shopping in La Cruz, Mexico

The red and green (avocado) salsas at the Morelia Mega are very good, but not cheap. They are to be found in the prepared foods section.

Mar 02, 2015
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guadalajara resturants???

I was just browsing through Guadalajara restaurants on TripAdvisor, and saw very good reviews for La Fonda de La Noche. http://tinyurl.com/mzsu6b3

Anyone on CH Mexico know that place?

Feb 16, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

guadalajara resturants???

"Hop on a bus at the Central Vieja in downtown GDL and tell the driver you want to get off at El Chololo Campestre, just before the El Saltos turnoff. He'll know. Be sure to go on a Sunday, there's nothing like it back home."

Cristina, many thanks for the detailed advice. We wouldn't have known how to do that, except by taxi. We'll try for a Sunday, if we are not totally carne overloaded at La Matera the day before.

Saludos,
Anónimo

Feb 13, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

guadalajara resturants???

¡Muchas gracias! I kind of figured that La Chata is as you describe. Might be o.k. for our first morning's breakfast. The Hotel Morales, where we'll be staying does not, on the whole get good reviews for its restaurant.

We'll tap our inheritance for a meal at La Matera.

O.k. What about Birrería Los Compadres, and also Birrería La Nueve Esquinas, both in Guadalajara Centro?

I just Googled "Birrería El Cholo" and found a branch in Tlaquepaque. http://tinyurl.com/qxd74t7

Feb 12, 2015
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guadalajara resturants???

We'll be in Guadalajara for two days in late June. We'll be staying in Centro. I've read many diners' reviews of La Chata, close to our hotel. Is it worth eating there, or is it just another ordinary Mexican restaurant?

In the higher bracket, for a wedding anniversary splurge, we are thinking of La Matera, a popular Argentine restaurant. http://www.lamatera.mx/ (Understand, that we don't require Mexican food every time we dine out.) La Matera looks very good to me.

The next two nights we'll stay in Tlaquepaque. So far, the recommended restaurants in Tlaquepaque seem to me to serve overly elaborate and rich food for a tourist clientele. I'm thinking specifically of Tlaquepasta and Casa Luna.

Not far from our b&b in Tlaquepaque is a cenaduría, Los Merequetengues whose simplicity greatly appeals to me. http://losmerequetengues.com/
But I have no diners' opinions on that one.

We don't want to travel far within the Guadalajara Metropolitan Zone, with the exception of La Matera.

Your feedback is welcome.

Feb 11, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Looking for a recipe

Is that restaurant in Mexico, or north of the border?

Feb 07, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Our two favorites in Oaxaca

Thanks! :-)

Jan 28, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Heading to Morelia, Patzcuaro, Uruapan - where to eat????

Yes, Quiroga, Michoacán is considered THE place for the best carnitas. Our Mexican neighbors showed us which stand on the main street, just off the plaza that they preferred. I'm not certain, but I think it was Juanito's. Note that "Juanito" was wearing a Carnitas Carmelo's shirt. Carmelo's is a regional chain or franchise. I don't really know how it works, but chances are you'll get good carnitas in Quiroga.

In Pátzcuaro, many people swear by Carnitas Dos Plazas, on Calle Iturbe. It opens at noon. I think it's closed Mondays. It may open earlier on Saturday. There is no seating inside except a narrow counter and some stools. The carnitas are good, but those in Quiroga are arguably better. I have been to Carnitas Dos Plazas only twice on the 10 years we've lived here. But I also try to limit my carnitas intake to about twice a year.

Yuban, Colonia Roma. We ate there a couple of years ago and were somewhat disappointed. Although obviously a lot of thought had gone into the dishes and, especially, their presentation, it was an uneven meal.
I just referred back to my blog post on Yuban from July 13, 2013 http://tinyurl.com/l23e8f7, and I see that we liked some of the dishes but not others. The service was of the hovering, "close encounters" type, a service which takes away my enjoyment of the meal. Also, Yuban was the first restaurant where we had desserts (pan de elote and pay de queso de cabra) that each cost $100 pesos.

Overall, we felt that the prices were high. Our bill was $795 MXP for two. Whenever possible, we prefer to eat regional food within that region. You can get a superior counterpart to this cuisine in Oaxaca, at more reasonable prices. Granted, you have to be in Oaxaca.

Example: during a recent stay in Oaxaca, we ate twice at La Coronita, at Diaz Ordaz 208, Centro, in the Hotel Valle de Oaxaca which was very much to our liking.
On our last visit, a week ago, three of us ate well for a total of $671 MXP. That included three mezcales de la casa. Their Sopa de Guias defines purity and freshness. http://tinyurl.com/GuiasCoronita

That which we were served at Yuban was murky, with tangles of greens. http://tinyurl.com/GuiasYuban

Jan 27, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Heading to Morelia, Patzcuaro, Uruapan - where to eat????

Yes, Quiroga, Michoacán is considered THE place for the best carnitas. Our Mexican neighbors showed us which stand on the main street, just off the plaza that they preferred. I'm not certain, but I think it was Juanito's. Note that "Juanito" was wearing a Carnitas Carmelo's shirt. Carmelo's is a regional chain or franchise. I don't really know how it works, but chances are you'll get good carnitas in Quiroga.

In Pátzcuaro, many people swear by Carnitas Las Dos Plazas, on Calle Iturbe. It opens at noon. I think it's closed Mondays. It may open earlier on Saturday. There is no seating inside except a narrow counter and some stools. The carnitas are good, but those in Quiroga are arguably better. I have been to Carnitas Las Dos Plazas only twice on the 10 years we've lived here. But I also try to limit my carnitas intake to about twice a year.

Yuban, Colonia Roma: We ate there a couple of years ago and were somewhat disappointed. Although obviously, a lot of thought had gone into the dishes and, especially, their presentation, it was an uneven meal.

I just referred back to my blog post on Yuban from July 13, 2013 http://tinyurl.com/l23e8f7, and I see that we liked some of the dishes but not others. The service was of the hovering, "close encounters" type, a service which takes away my enjoyment of the meal. Also, Yuban was the first restaurant where we had desserts (pan de elote and pay de queso de cabra) that each cost $100 pesos.

Overall, we felt that the prices were high. Our bill was $795 MXP for two. Whenever possible, we prefer to eat regional food within that region. You can get a superior counterpart to this cuisine in Oaxaca, at more reasonable prices. Granted, you have to be in Oaxaca.

Example: during a recent stay in Oaxaca, we ate twice at La Coronita, at Diaz Ordaz 208, Centro, in the Hotel Valle de Oaxaca which was very much to our liking.
On our last visit, a week ago, three of us ate well for a total of $671 MXP. That included three mezcales de la casa. Their Sopa de Guias defines purity and freshness. http://tinyurl.com/GuiasCoronita

That which we were served at Yuban was murky, with tangles of greens. http://tinyurl.com/GuiasYuban

Jan 27, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Our two favorites in Oaxaca

We have eaten twice at La Biznaga, a year apart. Overall, we like it very much.
The food is good looking without being fussy, and the flavors are bold.

Unfortunately, the wonderful Sopa Del Establo that our friend had last year, arrived at our table this year a travesty of what it should have been.

Last year, it was as described on the menu as a cream of Roquefort with a touch of chipotle, garnished with toasted pepitas. This year, it more resembled dishwater with a few bubbles and had essentially no taste. (O.k. There was a puny scattering of seeds.)

I sent it back and it was taken off our bill.

Fortunately, the other dishes were much better.

Our recent meal is described in more detail, plus photos, on my blog.

http://tinyurl.com/oz533vz

Jan 26, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Anybody stayed in Zihuatenajo lately?

We might try it next time we are in Zihua.

Jan 21, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Anybody stayed in Zihuatenajo lately?

"Last night we walked up to Taqueria Poco Loca - now they are taking baked stuffed potatoes to another whole level! "

Is that place the same as Papa Loca? Haven't been there yet but we have been many times to Carmelita's Café, which has mostly excellent food. Open for breakfast and lunch, closes about 4 P.M.
http://tinyurl.com/cv5xxvg

Jan 20, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Anybody stayed in Zihuatenajo lately?

Maggie19; tomates criollos are not unique to Zihua. We have also found them in abundance last winter and now (Jan. 2015) in the Mercado La Democracia (AKA Mercado de La Merced) in Oaxaca. I'll go out on a limb and speculate that they are sold in other mercados in Oaxaca. The second visit to Z we found the tomates criollos to be smaller and less ripe. So far, the Oaxacan specimens are superior. (My wife says the small to medium size tomates are best, as the larger often get pithy areas inside.) YMMV.

I don't *think* they are hybrids, but OTOH, a variety of heirloom tomatoes. I'll try to upload a photo or two.

The photo on the left shows the Oaxacan tomatoes; on the right are the Zihua tomatoes of last year.

Jan 20, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Anybody stayed in Zihuatenajo lately?

In my earlier reply, I forgot to mention that we'd also stayed at Bungalows La Madera, in Colonia Madera. They have numerous rooms with kitchenettes. Sizes and amenities/qualities vary. Overall, it's a nice place. But it probably costs more than your budget mentioned above. http://www.bungalowslamadera.com/

It's not near the mercado, but on a hillside street toward the beach, above what I call the Calle Adelita Gringo Gourmet Gulch. (Not to disparage the restaurants there, as some are quite good.)

Jan 20, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Anybody stayed in Zihuatenajo lately?

Some of the rooms at the Paraiso have kitchen counters and sinks. I have read but not confirmed that they can bring in a small refrigerator on request. The rooms to which I refer are those on the second and third floors (as far as I went) and face Calle Mangos. Some have ceiling fans, others do not. All had AC as far as I know. Those rooms are larger and cost more. Last year, in early December, they were $600 pesos.

We enjoyed picking up some fresh fruits and vegetables at the mercado municipal and the mercado de campesinos (virtually across the street from the hotel.) Be sure to try the tomates criollos. You can get them in the mercado de campesinos and in the street next to Super Merza, about 1 block or less Centro-ward from the hotel.

I may have mentioned it before, but IMO, the best restaurant in Zihua is Doña Licha's, on Calle Cocos, just a block south of Calle Mangos. Next, is the very nice, but pricier (it's been "discovered") Carmelita's Café, on Colegio Militar, about 5-6 blocks north of the hotel FP.

Say Hola to Sra.Paty and her family from us.

¡Buen provecho!

Jan 19, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Oaxaca Xmas

DD, thanks for the encouragement. We may try SP.

Jan 12, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Oaxaca Xmas

Yes, I appreciate getting an idea of prices at Origen or any other upscale restaurant. We usually avoid those higher end places, due to bitterly disappointing experiences in some, (all in the DF), but I am intrigued by the enthusiasm for Origen.

Jan 12, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Oaxaca Xmas

Thanks for that, DD. I'm continually fascinated by the extremes of opinions on TripAdvisor. Some reviewers love Restaurante SP while a few had very negative experiences."Salt" was a culprit in some reviews.

In fact, I walked over to Restaurante San Pablo yesterday evening. I didn't see a sign, so I stuck my head in the door to inquire. I didn't exactly get a warm welcome, but that's my impression.

Our best dining experiences so far in two days in Oaxaca were Marisquería La Red (good straight ahead seafood, no attitude) and Fonda Teresita, in the Mercado de La Merced, where we enjoyed delicious breakfasts of enchiladas and tasajo, and it was a real bargain.

Jan 12, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Oaxaca Xmas

DD and Cristina; what's a typical cost per meal at Origen? We are in Oaxaca now, and I'm intrigued by your enthusiasm for it. But I am always dubious when considering higher end restaurants, especially in light of comments on TripAdvisor about "plenty of attitude."

Note that Origen is closed Sundays. We walked by this afternoon, hoping to look at a menu, but it was closed. Their website is cryptic and uninformative.
http://www.origenoaxaca.com/home.html

Jan 11, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Oaxaca: Restaurant La Coronita

Yesterday, I learned for the first time of Restaurant La Coronita, in the Hotel Valle de Oaxaca, Oaxaca. It's on Av. Diaz Ordaz. In the booklet a friend lent us, the food is described as very traditional, and almost all of the famed siete moles are available. The Sopa de Guias is described as an outstanding dish.

Reading TripAdvisor reviews on this place reinforce the good reports. Has anyone on Chowhound eaten at La Coronita? Your opinions are valuable. We are definitely considering going there.

https://es-es.facebook.com/pages/Rest...

Jan 05, 2015
Anonimo in Mexico

Heading to Morelia, Patzcuaro, Uruapan - where to eat????

Today we met a friend at El Camino Real on the outskirts of Pátzcuaro. We arrived just before 1:00 p.m. The dining room was busy but not yet full. Tables had as usual been prepared in the semi-outdoors for the inevitable Sunday overflow.

The tables were set with crusty teleras rolls, butter and bowls of very picante pickled carrots, onions, salsa verde and chiles perón.

Most of the diners seemed to be eating breakfast. In fact, when our friend ordered, he asked for Huevos Camino Real, a version of huevos albañil, or softly scrambled eggs in a spicy tomato and chile sauce.

My wife and I requested the Menú del día. There were more than 25, even 30 main dishes from which to choose.

I started with an excellent bowl of Sopa Tarasca, followed by a small plate of not bad, not great rice with a spoonful of just passable mole on the side.

After much deciding, I requested Enchiladas Suizas con Pollo. The dish was creamy and delectable. I added some salsa verde from the salsera on the table, which cut the richness just a bit without adding picante heat.

We drank café de olla, hot tea (this was a seasonally cold day) and agua mineral. (Drinks are extra from the comida. The comida completa itself cost $70 pesos. USD $4.72

We were offered a choice of desserts, which came in the usual mini plastic portion cups. We chose tamarindo, which wasn't bad.

When we were leaving, at about 2:30, the dining room was starting to fill. El Camino Real is a very popular restaurant with visitors to Pátzcuaro, and with good reason.

Jan 04, 2015
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