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Best butcher shop for 3-6lb slab pork belly in Chinatown or SOMA? [San Francisco]

$8 is often the going rate. Also call whole foods and belcampo.

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goldangl95 in San Francisco Bay Area

Critique my Sonoma wine itinerary please

Pick at least one that is appt only. Pick one that the tasting area is unique or really pretty (check photos). And then pick at random. You 'll do fine.

Yeah make at least one appt per day now.

To avoid traffic head up to wine country before 10 am.

neighborhood restaurant recommendations for November in SF?

Agreed about Park Chow.

neighborhood restaurant recommendations for November in SF?

Just use uber or lyrt the app works super well, it's convenient and if it's two or more of you traveling it can be just as cheap as public transportation. SF is not NYC it is a notorious pain to get around on public transit if you are not commuting to work as the whole system is trying to get you from a neighborhood to the financial district. And as a tourist the financial district is not where you are trying to go for the most part. (E.g. I am in golden gate park and trying to get to the mission)

Best Asian in San Francisco

Sure. They are not chowhounds - I am just saying it's not surprising that there are many who are unaware of the food available in their own area. Therealso can be this idea that Asian food is for takeout or a quick meal (e.g. How about going to Flushing for Dim Sum - ugh I just had Chinese for lunch yesterday)

You can see that attitude when people post here asking not to try those cuisines because they can get it at home. It's nice to get a poster explicitly asking about our Asian food options!

Best Asian in San Francisco

I've found for whatever reason my friends at least don't eat it there and especially won't go out of their way to eat 'ethnic' cuisine. It seems besides sushi, and whatever thing is trendy, many of those in Manhattan proper tend to only get such food on seamless or takeout and spend all their going out to eat time/money/effort on new American and $$$$ offerings.

I think Flushing for those sorts is like going to Gilroy from SF.

Best Asian in San Francisco

Second trying Burmese or Kin Khao for some interesting thai dishes.

neighborhood restaurant recommendations for November in SF?

Or another way to put it one criticism of the neighborhood thai corner restaurant is they don't make things 'authentically spicy'.

A second criticism is that the balance of favors tilts too sweet and omits the funk.

A third criticism is a narrow profile of Thai cuisine that omits a lot of the subtler dishes.

I think pok pork definitely solves the first (it's in the authentic realm even if it's not burning your tongue) and it was less sweet and a little more funky. But the third it isn't particularly interested in addressing.

neighborhood restaurant recommendations for November in SF?

Yes of course they can be subtle which is a different thing from balance. Acidity is often used to brighten a dish without tasting like you are eating sour candy, and spicy can not have any chili heat at all and can add just a hint of sharpness.

There are whole sides of SE Asia cuisine that are very much like the flavor profile of yellowtail sashimi with jalapeƱo (to use a much loved SoCal creation).

When I say I found pok poks food unsubtle, I meant it wasn't exploring that side of SE Asian cuisine. It's not about whether it burns my mouth off or not, but as I said things were salty, sour, and spicy in force. I wouldn't say exposure to LA thai (or for that matter food in Thailand) is what is causing the difference in our opinion considering my familiarity of both.

Wedding cake/cupcakes in East Bay Area?

I haven't done it myself, but I would check the Asian and Hispanic bakeries for cakes in your price range. They often don't do fondant, or fancy decorated buttercream cakes, but I really like, for example, the whipped cream and fruit cakes from the Chinese bakeries. Just yelping it you may want to look into Delicieuse (but I personally haven't gotten a wedding cake from them).

neighborhood restaurant recommendations for November in SF?

Fair point!

neighborhood restaurant recommendations for November in SF?

So I've only been to Pok Pok in Portland, not in NYC, but my thoughts on Pok Pok:

Yes Pok Pok showcases very different food from your typical corner Thai restaurant, but the flavors are very hitting you over the head. I like that - it's not a criticism, but it can be very spicy, or very sour and everything at least I ordered was pretty salty. It was satisfying as conceptualized - road side food.

Kin Khao is trying to bring a kind of CA/New American sensibility to Thai food. The dishes favored there tend to be subtler and more delicately balanced. Some dishes are very spicy but the majority are not looking to explore the assault on tastebuds side of the food.

Both stem from authentic traditions, but they are going in very different directions. It also shows in their menus - which don't overlap very much.

Critique my Sonoma wine itinerary please

Remember to double check on appointments! Some of the wineries you listed require them. You have a solid list going.

RRV:
We like the pinot at Dutton-Goldfield, Inman and Paul Mathew (there isn't much of a setting at any of them). I've liked Lynmar a lot in the past but they switched out their wine makers - I'm not sure which vintages that starts affecting.

If you really like sparkling, check out Iron Horse. If you like really subdued on the fruit earthy pinots try, Porter Creek.

Dry Creek Valley: Ridge has great zins - a little corporate feeling but one of the greatest, long standing producers in all of California. Papapietro Perry doesn't have much of a setting but I like their wines a fair amount.

A lot of people like the setting and the wines at Preston, but I find them too rustic and disjointed on the whole.

Alexander Valley: Stonestreet is a little above your price range, but the setting is great and they are friendly, the wine is of solid quality so worth a stop. I also decently like Robert Young.

neighborhood restaurant recommendations for November in SF?

Dosa is great for veg and seafood. Go to the Fillmore location. If you like Indian. Obviously not worth going to if you don't.

neighborhood restaurant recommendations for November in SF?

Depends who you are - some really need the felling of buzz or hype in order to help create a memorable experience .

Unless you are really into produce, it's hard to distinguish one great New American/Cali cuisine place from another. Since it is now a global phenomenon, you most likely have something similar to Nopa (for example) near to where you live and it will be +/- 20% better on produce and attitude. For many, that difference is too small and they feel let down. Others live for that differential.

On the other hand I challenge you to find some place like Kin Khao or Dosa anywhere in the Americas. There's probably only a handful. So less comparing, definitively unique - more likely to be a memorable experience.

neighborhood restaurant recommendations for November in SF?

Frances, nopa, rich table, spqr, locanda, state bird, flower + water are your typical options

2nd cotogna and would add Verbena and Monsieur Benjamin

Would note that something like Kin Khao, Dosa and to a lesser degree Lolinda are a lot rarer in NYC. Really would be careful of prioritizing the types of food that you mentioned. Esp in November - produce, consistency and absence of pretense is all that differentiates us from NY in American/European food.

Weekend Trip Report Day 3 and 4 (Maven/Frances/Bar Tartine/The Cavalier)

Well, there is taste varying and then there's this is completely contrary to what our culture tells us should taste good. Places that are challenging cultural tastes that hard, when recommended, I think should come with a warning.

Now the OP is claiming something even stronger - that Bar Tartine not only is catering to a very esoteric palette (which we all acknowledge), but that Bar Tartine is also challenging what we understand shows caring and quality in cooking. So not only will it taste mediocre to most people it will feel like careless and slapdash food to the point of offensiveness. If that is so, when does Bar Tartine become a Portlandia type parody?

The OP claims the crossing into parody has already happened and the joke is on us. It actually really makes me want to revisit Bar Tartine to see what is going on.

San Fran foodies

Weekend Trip Report Day 3 and 4 (Maven/Frances/Bar Tartine/The Cavalier)

Thanks for the reports! It's good to get a sense from visitors what they liked and what they didn't like and why.

A "special" dinner in SFBA -- your thoughts much appreciated

It makes sense to me that 30 yrs ago Chez Panisse was the forerunner. The produce CP was working with was much harder to find than it is now, they were much more technique talented than most places in the US at the time, and they didn't care about the rules and traditions of the places that did have the produce and the techniques.

But now, great produce, meat, fish, and dairy is pretty widely available even to home chefs; the food network, internet, and the general over education of the US combined results in lots more people knowing and attempting technique and owning things at home like a pizza oven, and most restaurants in the Bay Area don't care about the rules CP broke 30 yrs ago.

I appreciate all CP did for the Bay Area, but after eating downstairs once, I've decided to stick to the cafe. I felt similarly about Zuni. I would not however ever compare them to Denny's!

SF: What's Left to Do?

I believe and I am too lazy at the moment to do a true side by side comparison the Mission location is an upper scale version of S Indian standards in a somewhat cramped space. The Fillmore location is more whimsical with a lot more non-traditional ingredients and has more seafood (and perhaps meat?)

SF: What's Left to Do?

Yes but what about all 3 plus an excellent assortment of regional southern seafood dishes all together? We've had this debate before and I don't want to rehash it here, but it is a rare concept in the United States regardless of location.

SF: What's Left to Do?

I haven't been enough to both locations to decide it. But I find the Dosa location on Fillmore more consistent, they try harder, and the atmosphere is better. I also like the menu a bit more.

Help needed to sort through Bay Area budget dining options, please!

Head to the Ferry Building. During the market if you can, but there's good options inside if the market is not on.

Gajalee makes unique South Asian dishes. A little pricier than dirt cheap say $25 pp.

I like Limon for Peruvian again more like $25 pp.

Z & y and r & g are good bets for Chinese in a convenient location.

SF: What's Left to Do?

Devi and Dosa's menus barely overlap. It's not the same thing at all. Devi is much more equivalent to Amber India or Sakoon in Mountain View.

Devi is North Indian focused Dosa is South Indian focused and the Dosa location on Fillmore is an incredibly rare occurrence of a good vibe, good cocktail mid range South Indian restaurant.

2014 Oakland Eat Real Festival, Sept 19 - 21, Jack London Sq.

We went yesterday during the day. It wasn't too crowded and we waited at most 10 mins for any stand.

Fat Face Popsicles were again a big hit with lime + avocado and apricot curry being the favorites.

Liked the paella from Nora Covina that is being sold near the Fat Face stand. Line was long but moved quickly. Seafood and meat weren't rubbery and flavors were melded well.

Chairman Bao's buns were spicy, savory and sour in a very well balanced way.

The Farmer's Wife has unbelievably rich sandwiches if that's your thing (there's no fresh/acidic component). Really good cheese and bread. They offer half or whole sandwiches. Get a half.

Bicycle banh mi wasn't packing enough flavor for me. Bread was good but nothing in the sandwich was particularly spicy, or acidic or Unami-ish.

Jim n Nicks BBQ was fine. Pork didn't have great smoked flavor, the sauce was fine.

SF: What's Left to Do?

Have you been inside the ferry building? I'd do hog island oyster co and a sandwich from cowgirl creamery.

2014 Oakland Eat Real Festival, Sept 19 - 21, Jack London Sq.

It was probably Fat Face - they make excellent popsicles (lime avocado is my favorite). Also! I believe they are not available locally as they're from the Davis/Sacramento area.

A "special" dinner in SFBA -- your thoughts much appreciated

Right, - there are places in SF that reach the same level in the same sort of upscale American comfort food genre, and I wasn't sure if there was something contextual about Pican that made it worth driving/BARTing out there.

A "special" dinner in SFBA -- your thoughts much appreciated

Pican doesn't strike me as particularly destination worthy. I am unfamiliar about the origins, so perhaps it's more authentic or more of a community place, but evaluating solely on food it's of similar standard quality as Wayfare Tavern with a somewhat larger U.S. whiskey/bourbon selection.