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Football during Thanksgiving dinner - am I a snob?

>> "I hope the OP understands how football is integral to Thanksgiving for many people"

I am learning.

2 days ago
amoule in Not About Food

Football during Thanksgiving dinner - am I a snob?

This made me laugh out loud!

2 days ago
amoule in Not About Food

Football during Thanksgiving dinner - am I a snob?

That's how I took it. Thanks for your perspective.

2 days ago
amoule in Not About Food

Football during Thanksgiving dinner - am I a snob?

>> "I think you should loosen up and give thanks for the eclectic mix of friends and loved ones you have at your table"

You are right.

Funny that you associate Thanksgiving with more informality; I've always associated it with more formality and with people joining together.

I was thinking about that last night and it occurred to me that some people might think of watching a game together as doing something together. I had been viewing the situation as him rejecting the group of friends in favor of TV.

2 days ago
amoule in Not About Food

Football during Thanksgiving dinner - am I a snob?

Oh, that's not what I meant. I have dozens of things in common with this man. I could talk to him for days. I like him very much. That's probably why I'm disappointed. I was looking forward to talking to him.

Nov 24, 2014
amoule in Not About Food

Football during Thanksgiving dinner - am I a snob?

You're right, of course. I will let it go.

Nov 24, 2014
amoule in Not About Food

Football during Thanksgiving dinner - am I a snob?

It's a good idea but I need the day to cook.

Nov 24, 2014
amoule in Not About Food

Football during Thanksgiving dinner - am I a snob?

Point taken. For the record, though, I did tell him was okay and have never called anyone "bubba".

Nov 24, 2014
amoule in Not About Food
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Football during Thanksgiving dinner - am I a snob?

I apologize if I made it sound like Thanksgiving was a Christian holiday. That is not what I intended.

Thanks for the sympathy.

Nov 24, 2014
amoule in Not About Food
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Football during Thanksgiving dinner - am I a snob?

Thank you for telling me why this is an important day for the Seahawks. Now I have 5 seconds of conversation on the subject.

Unfortunately, no, I'm not on directtv.

Nov 24, 2014
amoule in Not About Food

Entertaining - Music to Accompany Dinner

This thread was dead for a while and I thought it was over. I'm surprised at the number of thoughtful replies - thank you! I'm taking down all the suggestions and will check them all out.

I also appreciate the suggestions of playlists and streaming services. I haven't looked at a streaming service for years, when spotify first came out, and need to reconsider it. It seems they've come a long way.

Nov 24, 2014
amoule in Not About Food
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Football during Thanksgiving dinner - am I a snob?

Could I have said no? How would you phrase that refusal? (Don't worry, I'm not going to try it now. I'd just like to know for future reference.)

Nov 24, 2014
amoule in Not About Food

Football during Thanksgiving dinner - am I a snob?

I grew up in household where TV was always unacceptable during dinner. My parents always considered it rude and inconsiderate and I do too. I also just don't care about football.

I invited several friends to Thanksgiving a month ago; they accepted immediately. They've been here for dinner many times before and know that I put a lot of work into a meal for friends. They also know that there's no TV anywhere near the living room or dining room.

One of the husbands came rushing up to me Sunday and asked, "You have a TV, don't you?" I replied that I do. He proceeded to explain that the Seahawks have a game scheduled during Thanksgiving dinner and that he needs to be able to watch the game (because he's a fan, not a sports writer). I told him that I grew up in a family where we never watched TV during dinner and that I don't want to have a TV at the table. He said he understands but needs to be able to check the score throughout dinner. I said okay.

I somewhat annoyed, though. I put a lot of work and expense into dinners like these and I find it offensive that people are going to be distracted and running to the den to watch snatches of TV during dinner. Am I being snobbish? I'm not going to refuse them, I'm just annoyed. We are all Christians and this is a day designated for giving thanks. Nearly every other day is for mindless entertainment.

Nov 24, 2014
amoule in Not About Food

apple pie no cinnamon

The best apple pie I ever had was made by layering sheets of filo dough with melted butter, sugar, and calvados. After many layers were built up, the apples were placed on top and the edges of the filo were pulled up, like a galette. I think the recipe was from the old Silver Palate cookbook, which I don't have any more. It was called Medieval apple tart or something like that.

The combination of butter, sugar, apple and calvados made me swoon.

Nov 22, 2014
amoule in Home Cooking

Does a pecan tart need anything like whipped cream or ice cream?

That's an interesting idea. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

Nov 22, 2014
amoule in Home Cooking

Does a pecan tart need anything like whipped cream or ice cream?

Thanks. I agree that pecan pie is shockingly sweet - that's probably why I haven't eaten it for 30ish years.

Nov 22, 2014
amoule in Home Cooking

Does a pecan tart need anything like whipped cream or ice cream?

Yum! I think I'd almost choose buttermilk ice cream instead of the pie. No time to make this, though. Not this week. And I don't think I've ever seen it available commercially.

Nov 22, 2014
amoule in Home Cooking

Does a pecan tart need anything like whipped cream or ice cream?

Offering it on the side sounds like an excellent idea. Thank you.

Nov 22, 2014
amoule in Home Cooking

Does a pecan tart need anything like whipped cream or ice cream?

I'm making a pecan tart to end my Thanksgiving dinner but it's been so many decades since I've had pecan pie that I can't remember how it's served. Does it need an accompaniment like whipped cream or ice cream?

Nov 22, 2014
amoule in Home Cooking

Entertaining - Music to Accompany Dinner

Interesting ideas! Thanks.

Nov 17, 2014
amoule in Not About Food

Entertaining - Music to Accompany Dinner

I'll look into it. Thanks for the tip!

Nov 17, 2014
amoule in Not About Food

Does anyone actually put stuffing inside the turkey anymore?

Mom always did it that way and I always swore that I would too. But, it turns out that when you cook it in a gratin you get a nice crispy top. I also now think that the stuffing inside the bird is gummy. Sorry Mom.

As for the bird, as others have noted, it cooks better without the stuffing.

You can drizzle some of the pan drippings over the dressing if you want to have more turkey flavor in it. People can pour gravy over it too.

Nov 16, 2014
amoule in Home Cooking

The plus side of cheap ground beef

It's not just cheap ground beef but saturated fat and meat in general are maligned. Dietary cholesterol does not raise serum cholesterol. Saturated fat does not clog arteries. These things have been proven time and again but the old 1970s thinking still prevails. The lipid hypothesis is dead.

If people did come around, though, that beef wouldn't be cheap anymore ....

Nov 16, 2014
amoule in General Topics

Entertaining - Music to Accompany Dinner

When I have people for dinner I always select music to play. I'm running out of ideas. What would you play for Thanksgiving dinner, for example? How about for other dinners? How about for brunch?

Nov 16, 2014
amoule in Not About Food

What type of cuisine do you NOT like?

None of the Filipino food I've had has been good, but maybe I just had the wrong thing every time or those cooks couldn't cook.

I can't get too excited about German or Eastern European foods unless it's very cold outside and I'm very hungry.

Nov 16, 2014
amoule in General Topics

Should I be offended over a frozen pie?

I think you've gotten some pretty great advice here to just enjoy the company of his parents and not stress over the pie.

I would just add that you could make a pretty amazing Thanksgiving picnic for the car ride with your boyfriend. By the time you arrive you'll be too full for pie. Politely decline the frozen pie on the basis of being stuffed or say you can't face another pumpkin pie because you baked 120 of the this week.

Focus on spending the long car ride with the man you love and supporting him in his visit to his parents.

Nov 16, 2014
amoule in Not About Food
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Are starches interchangeable?

Mmm, maybe. I hope so. But humans don't have sped-up selective breeding and we don't yet know what the effect of these new foods will be.

Nov 16, 2014
amoule in Home Cooking

On the Topic of Finishing with Lemon Juice

This isn't exactly related to your discussion but I wanted to throw out an idea about finishing with lemon that I learned in Paris a few years ago.

I ordered skate wings and they came with scattered capers and bits of lemon on top. Someone had filleted the lemon and cuts the fillets into 1/4 - 1/3 inch pieces.

It seemed brilliant to me because if you squeeze the lemon juice over the fish it just rolls off. Having the lemon painstakingly cut into tidy little bits ensured that each bite had a burst of tartness with it.

Maybe someone can use that. Carry on with the wine discussion.

Nov 16, 2014
amoule in Home Cooking

Help with sous vide boneless skinless chicken breasts

I do BSCB for 1 hour at 63.5'C. That translates to 146.3'F. I think your temperature is too low. Poultry seems to do better at higher temps in the sous vide water bath.

For turkey legs I do 68'C for four hours and for boneless, skinless turkey breasts I do 64'C for 2 hours. In other words, I start the legs six hours before serving. At two hours before serving I lower the temp to 64'C (add ice water to get it there quickly) and add the breasts. The legs can remain in the water to keep warm the whole time. There's an excellent youtube video by Chef Grant Achatz on doing this.

For red meats and pork, much lower temps work better for me.

I use the Sous Vide Supreme.

Nov 16, 2014
amoule in Home Cooking

Are starches interchangeable?

The USDA just approved a new GMO potato on the 7th of this month. JR Simplot (a potato billionaire in Idaho) seems to be behind it. I think we'll be seeing a lot of them, unlabeled in my state.

ETA: It seems Simplot died a few years ago but the company bearing his name has made these modified potatoes.

Nov 16, 2014
amoule in Home Cooking