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Beer Camp

So I sucked it up and got a case this weekend. Interestingly, I must have called three or four top notch beer places and they all said they sold out almost as soon as they got them in. But when I went to one of my local supermarkets there was a big stack of them just sitting in the middle of the isle... untouched and passed by endless people going to get bud light and similar. Hide in plain site! And certainly probably spooked by the $24/12 pack price. While Im generally fairly jaded about these things, anytime I can walk into a grocery store in Virginia and see a half case of beer with the names "Russian River" and "Three Floyds" and "New Glarus" and "Ballast Point" on the box I have to take a few seconds to squelch the instinct to grab them all and run. I realize to a lot of you west coasters most of those are readily available but to us its like stumbling across Westy 12 behind the Miller High Life cases at the gas station...

Ive only had a few and I would concur that the ones Ive had were fine so far. Nothing mind blowing. Although I did quite enjoy the Firestone Walker Hoppy Pilsner. That was right up my alley. Wouldnt mind getting a case of that alone. Is it supposed to be pretty much a copy of the Pivo? Or is there an element that SN introduces that makes it different?

2 days ago
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Avery announces Quintupel Ale

Well I can only imagine the reaction of certain folks to this american abomination... Personally I wont be satisfied until my long dreamed style the Octupel is achieved. Or as I like to call it, The Quad2X...

2 days ago
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Awww! Couple Celebrates Tasting Their 25,000th Beer

Great folks. Went to many Bob Tupper hosted events at the old Brickskeller. Remember thinking that their old Hop Pocket was a local diamond under the radar of national hoppy beers back before the big IPA explosion. Now its incredibly expensive and my pallet has changed... But Ill still buy a 4 pack of the ale or the pils once in a while strictly for the Tuppers. Long may they ride...

2 days ago
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Beer Camp

Has anybody had any of these yet? Have you actually seen these cases in any stores near you? Apparently this is the Must Have beer release of the summer... *sigh* Still not sure how it works exactly. Are they all collaborations between Sierra Nevada and the other breweries mentioned or is Sierra Nevada releasing their versions of these breweries beers?

http://www.brewreviewcrew.com/beer-camp/

Jul 25, 2014
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Irish Inn, Glen Echo (July 2014)

Sounds disappointing. Actually spent a half decent mothers day there with no complaints some years ago. But moved out of the area in the early 90's and have only been back after DC Folk Festivals to drink a few Guinness at the bar. Im old enough to barely remember Trav's Roadhouse. Too bad demographics and real estate in that area would never allow a nice comforting dive bar anymore...

Jul 25, 2014
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Stone in Berlin

if they are it will be because of that tricky underhanded labeling! that and the beer!

Jul 21, 2014
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Best Hard Cider? [moved from Spirits board]

What?! Classifications changing meaning?!

Jul 21, 2014
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Beer myths, part 1

Perhaps they should call it "Schrödinger's Tripel"...

Jul 17, 2014
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Beer myths, part 1

When did I say I disagreed with Michael Jackson? He's reporting the historical context when he says "usually" refers to the strongest beer brewed AND that its "often" pale in color (nevermind the distinction that "usually" is about as ambivalent a moderator as "often" in my book so that leaves much unsaid there...). Im pretty sure you can search every one of my posts and you will never find me using the words "no you are wrong". What you will find is that I imply that it doesnt really matter. the term is still legitimate simply by the fact its accepted and used by hundreds of thousands of beer drinkers AND the beer makers themselves. Im sure Mr. Jackson was trying to be technically accurate and keep his Belgian and Dutch beer contacts as happy as ever with that interestingly worded definition. But Im sure he understood the difference in reality between what most people call a Quad and what most people call a Tripel. Now you can go back to tut tutting american beer drinking linguistics to your hearts content and we can go back to drinking more delicious Belgian Quadrupels...

Jul 17, 2014
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Beer myths, part 1

Yeah nice try turning the tables. We are perfectly fine with whatever the Belgians want to call their beers. You were the one that was originally bent out of shape because of the use of the term "Quadrupel" in the US.

The irony here is most american craft beer fans take the BJCP with a grain of salt at the very least and only use it for very basic guidance when trying to figure out if something is a stout or a lambic or a pale ale. Otherwise a LOT of us think its fairly silly and there are many american brewers who actively rebel against the very notion of styles when brewing (which may ironically lead to the proliferation of styles over time). So getting red in the face about americans fixation with bjcp styles is mostly lost on many in this group who are fine with alterations and fusions and collaborations in their beer sampling. Furthermore, if we acted like Belgian beer was pedestrian or unworthy you could justify getting worked up about not even knowing the technical definitions of said beers. But most of this is coming because so many americans worship good Belgian beers and have been fed the term Quadrupel for better or worse. If we were saying those Tripels are terrible I only drink Quadrupels than maybe I can see why this particular crusade would be worthwhile. But we are saying the opposite... We are saying oh my goodness your beers are so good (yes I know you arent Belgian...)! We love your Dubbels, your Tripels and your Quads! And you are saying stupid american, you cant love them because Quads dont exist. Well what pretentious nonsense. If people are enjoying your beer then encourage them. Who cares how its marketed to them. And if you do have a problem with that take it up with the Belgian companies that benefit from marketing it that way.

Jul 16, 2014
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Beer myths, part 1

By the way, if a Belgian brewery just makes one beer what do they call it? Wouldnt it be their weakest and strongest beer all at the same time?

Jul 16, 2014
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Beer myths, part 1

Clearly this begs the question what is the term Tripel then if not a style or a brand name. A... description? A Belgian code for "strongest"? Is there a parallel among american beers? And if its not a style what style is a Westmalle Tripel? Would a sentence like "this Tripel is a golden ale" actually make sense? And by the way I reject your notion that Quadrupel is ubiquitously and globally simply a brand name like Diet Coke. I understand Koningshoeven has a beer called "Quadrupel" which they treat as a brand. If you go to their product web site you find the picture Ive attached for their basic beer inventory. I couldnt find any "proper european" pictures of their product line. Just that one. Maybe Im missing the right web site because of my american ISP. who knows. But the point is Im not sure how a foreigner could ever tease out the fundamental difference between a Quad and all the rest of the beers that you are emphasizing here based on what we see and what we hear. To you, a quad is a tripel. To us a quad is a quad. To you, soccer is futbol. To us soccer is soccer. Most americans now understand that soccer is called futbol in most of the rest of the world but since we have a sport called football here we are fine with calling it soccer. So hows that for an analogy since you rejected my last one... Does it get you or other european sports fans upset that we call it soccer or do you understand that it helps us DIFFERENTIATE between futbol and football? After all who wants to get all excited to enjoy a nice dark rich malty raisony football game and then wind up with a mouth full of crisp sweet golden soccer? How annoying. If only someone had used a better description to warn us what we should have been expecting...

Jul 16, 2014
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Beer myths, part 1

apparently not! And I also like Quadruples too! But Im a rebel...

Jul 15, 2014
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Beer myths, part 1

You were going on about "history" being "rewritten" because "Tripels" are marketed as "Quadruples" here. You asked if that kind of thing happened with any american products over seas so I brought up Diet Coke versus "Coke Light". To me BOTH examples are simply product name differences. Im assuming whats in the bottle is the same stuff. So no I dont see a difference between Diet Coke being sold as "Coke Light" in Europe and certain types of Belgium defined Tripels being sold as "Quads" in the US. I hardly see either as "rewriting history" either. Just strategic marketing at worse.

All things evolve (no matter what the reason for the evolution). In 50 years people will be calling certain beers by certain names that make zero sense to us today. If we went back in time and gave a traditional English IPA brewer a swig of DFH 120 I'm not sure if they would spit it out in disgust or yell eureka but they sure wouldnt see it as anything like what they create. Thats in fact why I think its a good thing to allow name differentiation. It always annoys me when I hear some swill churner like Natural Light being described as a "true pilsner". It has about as much connection to a pilsner as a color by number painting has to do with a Monet masterpiece (or a Van Gogh for your sake). We could easily make them into two distinct styles with two distinct names but we insist on calling them both pilsners and I for one will be happier when garbage pilsners have a different term then top quality pilsners from say Pilsn or Bavaria or Downingtown... Wont you? Or will you be insulted on behalf of the american swill brand brewers that Natural Light is being marketed as an "Amerofoullager" or something?

Jul 15, 2014
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Beer myths, part 1

wait... now Duvel is a Tripel too? In these parts its called a "Belgian Strong Pale Ale" along with brews like Kwak and Piraat and such. Duvel one of my favorites by the way whatever it is.

Jul 15, 2014
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Beer myths, part 1

I wouldnt even go as far as to call it "incorrectly" but rather "differently". Perhaps thats hair splitting to you but then one good turn deserves another... When millions of consumers understand what is meant when someone says the word "Quad"; when retailers and shippers and suppliers and the brewery corporate headquarters (including clearly the evil marketing department) AND even the brewer himself clearly understand what is meant when someone says the word "Quad" then there is some legitimacy to the term, even if some grumpy traditionalists rail on about the ungodly technical abomination of calling a Tripel (using the ancient and therefore correct definition of the term) a Quad even if "Quad Tripels" taste drastically different from "Tripel Tripels" (for lack of better defining terminology).

I'll note that if you go to most countries in the world the single best selling liquid refreshment we produce here (Diet Coke) is called "Coke Light" for some reason. It doesnt bother me in the least nor do I think it offends the great soda makers of old who clearly didnt want their great diet beverages misrepresented as "Light" even if that term may connect better to people in Britain and Uruguay and Sri Lanka.

Jul 14, 2014
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Beer myths, part 1

I vote for Second Opinion...

And Ive been drinking St. Bernardus "Christmas Abt 12" for more years than I can count now. Never gave it a second thought that it was anything other than a "Belgian Winter Quadruple". I hope that doesnt make Thomas's head explode...

Jul 14, 2014
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Beer myths, part 1

of course classifications change. classification is a tool toward explaining differentiation and as we discover new things differentiation by definition requires RE-classification of known things. If you just look at the explosion of IPA's and IPA like beers you can see this. "Dark India Pale Ale" is a meaningless term but we all know exactly what it means.

On a mostly unrelated note, are sample flights (small sized tastings of different beers usually in groups of 4 or more at a time) common in Belgium/Netherlands/Holland/Germany? Or are they something you would never find? They are pretty standard in the US especially a brew pubs and when they come out they are usually followed by an explanation of each ("this is our house IPA, this is our house amber, this is our house wheat, etc.") . IF they exist there what do they say when they put them down? "here are some of our beers"? or do they just say "thats the Tripel" and walk away?

Jul 10, 2014
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Bass Ale - The Horror

are you a glutton for punishment or lots of unfortunate identical choices by people buying you beers?

Jul 01, 2014
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Belgian Trippel Blind (or Bland?) Tasting

Im boycotting Belgian beers today... And waffles... And muscles... Such hardship I face for my country in its time of need! But tomorrow Im back on board...

Jul 01, 2014
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Retail brats, sausages, bangers

I think their MO is to be a little brusque and no nonsense largely because they usually have such crowds and they are ALWAYS running coupon specials so if you are hemming and hawing and/or have no idea how to handle the coupon aspect of the order they may roll their eyes or make an unamused comment about what you are doing in the hopes you learn the right way. But nothing egregious. The worst thing that ever happened to me was when I asked one of the counter helpers for a recommendation on "your best steak today" he kind of blinked and said "all the meat is good what do you want". So I got the clue that they arent there for chit chat or even recommendations and I havent asked about anything since. Of course, that attitude has kept me from ordering certain items that I want further information on first but I guess they consider it worth it if it speeds things up.

Jun 24, 2014
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Shattering the Myth of Craft Beer

You like German Pils? Of course you do. Try a Jever and let me know what you think...

Jun 12, 2014
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Shattering the Myth of Craft Beer

You could save yourself having to write all that and probably most of the ridicule here if you just said "I dont like the taste of Prima Pils". Thats it... No one would have a problem with that. No need to try to horribly justify this dislike with silly erroneous nonsense and fail miserably. Its ok not to like something... I dont like watermelon but I dont think its part of some vast conspiracy among nouveau fruit growers to trick me into buying tons of it at the expense of the good old cranberry or lingonberry which never get any press and are always better even when they are imported in a container ship from europe and served by a mexican in a thai restaurant on Mulbary Street.

Jun 12, 2014
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Shattering the Myth of Craft Beer

Lets hope Larry Bell sees this! Would love to see that one get past the Tax and Trade Bureau...

Jun 11, 2014
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Shattering the Myth of Craft Beer

Thats interesting since Prima Pils is brewed by Victory which is widely considered one of the best breweries in the country. Prima Pils is also brewed by a German trained brewer, is made with German hops and German malts, has won several brewing awards and is considered one of the best examples of its kind in the country. But perhaps its not Stella-like enough for you? Sounds to me like you dont like hops and perhaps malts. May I recommend a wine cooler instead?

Jun 09, 2014
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Where can I buy Brewer's Art canned/bottled beer (NoVa/DC)

but State Line has been filling growlers for years. I wonder if they were exempt somehow. I remember going there (on my way back from New York or Connecticut) and getting a growler full of Old Rasputin back when North Coast first started distributing in this area. Blew my mind. They only had 3 or 4 taps then though.

Jun 05, 2014
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Shattering the Myth of Craft Beer

you want to throw him to the wolves? theyll hold him down and force him to drink a case of Heady Topper...

Jun 05, 2014
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Cheap American Beers, Ranked

yeah those things are 22 ouncers and at north of 8% abv thats like... 32 Schaefers... I wouldnt make it.

Jun 05, 2014
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Where can I buy Brewer's Art canned/bottled beer (NoVa/DC)

I've seen Resurrection and Ozzy cans at super markets in VA (Alexandria specifically).

Jun 04, 2014
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Blue Moon Beer

Wouldnt call Blue Moon crap. Certainly not on the level of a Corona. Its a serviceable american wit. Nothing memorable like Jan said. Theres many better of course but its certainly drinkable.

Jun 04, 2014
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