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New Haven Pizza Tour
Here's my 2 cents, for what it's worth. I'm aware that there will never be agreement on Sally's vs Pepe's, so it's just my opinion.
Was alway's a Sally's fan, having never been to Pepe's, just an instinct. I swear by the holy grail of Sally's after finally making it to Pepe's yesterday. Now, their pie is very good, but not worth the wait. My wife and I agreed, it's very good NEIGHBORHOOD pizza, if your neighborhood happens to be NYC. The main (only) reason we wound up there was that they were open in the early PM, and we had a schedule to stick to. I am a big fan of atmosphere, ie DiFara's, and Pepe's has become too clean for my taste. I like the rusticness of Sally's, but I believe their product is far superior. Better blistered crust, THINNER dough, and travels well. Good call on the clear Birch Beer, tho.
I am officially a Sally's fan for life, and will arrange my schedule to accomodate their late PM opening.
hill country
well, I knew it was just a matter of time before the experts chimed in. i'm less interested in the inner workings of a watch than i am in getting the right time of day.,
i also know the difference between cooked and undercooked, moist and dry, and this brisket was undercooked AND undersmoked. I may not have consumed as much "q" as you, having been raised in Brooklyn and not the Lone Star State, but I know what tastes good, and this wasn't it!
as for "woodburner," i am not confusing being pink with being underdone. i have had pink many times before, and it wasn't underdone.
next time i'm in Texas, i'll make it over to Kreuz. until then, i'll keep trying what the area has to offer. sometimes it'll be real good, other times not. HC was plain lousy, and that's my opinion, not nasty or ill informed.
FYI...the definition of ignorance is "the condition of being uneducated, unaware or uninformed." I voiced an OPINION, not a set of facts. This is what a blog is for
hill country
the best way to answer that is to refer you to the esteemed pastrami sandwich at Katz's. how they turn 2nd cut into such an ethereal delight has all to do with the prep. i'm no more knowledgeable about the raw product at HC than at Sonny Bryan's, but I do know what good is, and it's not HC.
p.s. I've loved White Castle for 50 years. Need I say more about quality?
hill country
ok, ScottK, maybe you're onto something. Perhaps I have had meat smoked with wood other than oak that appeals more to my palate.
I would like to amend my term "tasteless" to "taste that I find objectionable based on my tongue's memory bank."
There...that should do it!
hill country
I didn't go on an off night. Any night a restaurant in NYC is open for business, and they charge for their goods (as opposed to giving it away for free), they better well be "on."
When I called the food tasteless, it wasn't in the sense that early John Waters movies were tasteless; ( actually, his flicks were in "bad" taste, but were extraordinarily appealing to me. By tasteless I mean that based on my expectations of what good "q" should taste like, the important elements of the meat were missing.
Great bbq cannot and will not be found in NYC...just reasonable facsimiles thereof. It's another example of trying to export regional specialties to other time zones (see Calvin Trillin, "American Fried"). Not since Pearson's got it right in Long Island City in the 90's, has NY "q" resembled anything more than smoked meat with too much emphasis on the sides. Just stop off at Sonny Bryan's in Dallas and you'll know what I mean.
Yes, you can like the taste of the food and the drinks, but millions of people think the Olive Garden has great Italian food (wow! unlimited breadsticks and salad!) And don't even get me started on Pizza Hut and Domino's. I worship at the altar of Dominic.
At least we agree on UPN!
hill country
Just got back from the Epcot Food Court known as Hill Country. On the ride home, deconstructing the meal, my wife and I agreed that the one word to describe the food was "tasteless." Even the iced tea had a backtaste of mint. Can't they leave this perfect beverage unadulterated?
I know bbq. This isn't bbq. I know the pink smoke ring of brisket, but the "moist" offering was laden with undercooked pinkness. My wife said if she didn't know better, she thought the sausage was of the vegetarian variety. NOT ENOUGH SMOKE!!!
The pork ribs and beef ribs disappointed as well, but we thought enough of our dog to bring the beef bone home for him. At least he enjoyed it. Seems he doesn't mind undercooking as much as we do.
As for the sides, corn pudding was the saving grace. Mac and cheese too cheesy, of the cloying kind. Beans were oversweet, with no burnt ends to be found.
Enjoyed the white bread to sop up the bottled sauce, but this is not what I expected to be the highlight of the meal.
Sorry, won't be back. Blue Smoke and RUB do the "q" some much better.
una pizza napoletana nyc
when i walked out after spending $56 (without tip) for 2 sub-par pies, 2 waterglasses of cheap wine, inappropriately loud music, and a 40-minute wait for the food, i wanted to yell at the queueholders:
"the Emperor has new clothes!"
C'mon, this is not New York pizza, it's more like what i'd expect in a Paris cafe. of course they don't sell by the slice...who would pay $7.50 for a slice of NY pizza with virtually no ingredients?
the pie was reminiscent of a Passover version, matzoh-like with a few tomatoes.as a matter of fact, there is no difference in taste between the 4 selections on the menu. no salads to soothe the interminable wait for a pie that spends only 5 minutes in the oven.
not even a free glass of water, only the bottled kind (don't even get me started on that subject!)
i was so unsatiated after the meal, that i stopped off at Yonah Schimmels' for a hot pototo knish, a full meal for only $2.50.
if you want New York pizza, go to DiFara's or Totonnos's. Adam Platt, you should be ashamed of yourself!
