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Range hood solution for open peninsula: Downdraft? Unobtrusive hood?

Thanks for the feedback. I am increasingly convinced we made the right choice!

Feb 10, 2012
janelle in Cookware

Range hood solution for open peninsula: Downdraft? Unobtrusive hood?

Well, after a 2 hour meeting with our designer and contractor this morning, we came up with the solution: Put the sink in the peninsula, with a bar height counter right behind it to address any splashing, hide some of the potential dish mess, and allow people to sit at stools and chat. The oven goes on the wall with a traditional hood. And the small island stays a butcher block work space. Whew!

Thanks for all your input.

Feb 05, 2012
janelle in Cookware

Range hood solution for open peninsula: Downdraft? Unobtrusive hood?

right. i think there's a thermador showroom in LA, will go check it out.

besides the "dirty dishes in the middle of the kitchen" issue, my main concern with the sink in island question is how big the island would need to be. Our kitchen is 14 x 18 - one end will have the peninsula that opens to the dining room, the island will be in the middle of the room. The other end of the room has a bathroom & a small eat-in nook that pops out another 3x7 feet.... Worry that the island would have to be 7 feet long to accommodate sink + dishwasher + prep space on other side of sink... too big for the kitchen?

My head reels...

Feb 05, 2012
janelle in Cookware

Range hood solution for open peninsula: Downdraft? Unobtrusive hood?

Yeah, I'm seriously considering this option. I hate double-bowl sinks (Unless you get a massive one - which we don't have room for) both bowls end up being too small to be really useful).

I suppose if you got a great-looking dish rack like this one by Simple Human, it might be less unsightly:
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/produ...

Feb 05, 2012
janelle in Cookware

Range hood solution for open peninsula: Downdraft? Unobtrusive hood?

Your math is still making my brain spin. I'm wondering - What if we used the downdraft (and got the Thermador which rises 14 inches high), but supplemented with an overhead vent like #3 to catch the stuff that gets missed during super heavy duty cooking (which I do rarely, but on those occasions...)? I'm just speculating here, but perhaps the downdraft would capture the grease & stuff while the excess smoke & steam would be captured by the fan?

j.

Feb 05, 2012
janelle in Cookware

Range hood solution for open peninsula: Downdraft? Unobtrusive hood?

We grill outdoors and rarely fry. Our cooking habits are more like sautéing, soups, stews. And we live in LA so the heat is less of an issue.

Our layout is tricky - either we put the cooktop in the island, or the sink. Always figured it was worse to have the sink in there because you've have to look at the dish rack.

If we did do a downdraft, it would be the Thermador 13 inch one.

Feb 03, 2012
janelle in Cookware

Range hood solution for open peninsula: Downdraft? Unobtrusive hood?

We're remodeling our kitchen, and in the process are taking down the wall between it and the dining room to make everything feel more open and spacious. The range (a 36" Viking drop-in 6 burner) will go in a peninsula that separates the two rooms - really, the only spot it can go due to the limitations of the space.

Now we're struggling with the problem of what to do about a hood. A big hood will make the whole point of taking down the wall moot - it'll close off the space we just spent thousands to open.

We've come up with three options:

1) Downdraft pop-up, like the Thermador 600 CFM. I know people poo-poo these, but it would save the open feeling.

2) Trying to find as unobtrusive a hood as possible. Maybe something glass. (Any suggestions?)

3) Installing a ceiling mount, in-line exhaust fan like this: http://www.ventilationdirect.com/cata.... Our kitchen designer said he did this in another house, and it worked well. We're a little dubious.

Can anyone make any recommendations?

Thanks!

Janelle

Feb 02, 2012
janelle in Cookware

"Special" date lunch, east of La Cienega, west of downtown

Alas, a day too late. We ate at Pizzeria Mozza and it was perfect. Thanks for the suggestions.

Jan 03, 2012
janelle in Los Angeles Area

"Special" date lunch, east of La Cienega, west of downtown

Well, basically we're going to hit a movie before or after - either at the Grove, the Americana, the Vista or the Arclight. So, somewhere around those areas. Hence the original parameters.

Dec 29, 2011
janelle in Los Angeles Area

"Special" date lunch, east of La Cienega, west of downtown

Good ideas. We live in Los Feliz/Silverlake and have hit almost all the local restaurants about two dozen times each, so trying to stay away from Vermont/Little Doms/Stella....

Dec 29, 2011
janelle in Los Angeles Area

"Special" date lunch, east of La Cienega, west of downtown

If you want to go out to a great, upscale, date-appropriate lunch on the east-ish side of down, where on earth do you go? I was thinking of Lucques, but it's closed on Mondays. Mozza isn't open for lunch. Most of the places that would fit the bill (Bouchon types) are in Beverly Hills or further west.

Any suggestions? Prefer to stay in the zone roughly between the Grove and the Americana, if you know what I mean.

Dec 28, 2011
janelle in Los Angeles Area

old-fashioned candy?

Great idea. I'll give them both a try. Thanks!

Nov 07, 2008
janelle in Los Angeles Area

old-fashioned candy?

Anyone know where to find classic candy - ie, swirlies and twister lollipops?

Ideally, closer to the Silver Lake side of town....

Nov 05, 2008
janelle in Los Angeles Area

Elf Cafe in Echo Park - So Tiny and Cute!

... When *is* Elf restaurant open? I tried to go last night (Tuesday) at 9 pm and it already dark and locked up.

Jan 31, 2007
janelle in Los Angeles Area

Ultimate Restaurants 2006

1) Hatfields
2) A.O.C.
3) Jiraffe
4) Lucques
5) Sona

Dec 13, 2006
janelle in Los Angeles Area

Where to buy small batch whiskey near Los Feliz?

I'm trying to find a store that sells small batch whiskeys - Redbreast or Basil Hayden - near Los Feliz. Any ideas?

Dec 03, 2006
janelle in Los Angeles Area

best delivery los feliz

Agra used to be decent but now when you order you get a tub of sauce with a little nugget of meat.

Otherwise, if you want delivery (as opposed to pick-up) you're looking at either Thai or Italian/Pizza. Which it sounds like you've already covered.

If someone opened a good chinese joint in Los Feliz/Silverlake, they would make a killing. There is absolutely nothing that fits the bill on this side of town. Somebody? Please? Are you out there?

Nov 15, 2006
janelle in Los Angeles Area

CANELE IN LOZ FELIZ

the list was very short - less than a dozen reds, equal whites, two roses -- and wine prices were quite reasonable (some in the $20s & $30s, nothing terribly expensive), commensurate with the menu pricing. i'm no wine expert, though, so couldn't really comment on the overall quality of the list although the syrah we had (at $7 a glass) was good, even if the pours were nebbish.

Oct 18, 2006
janelle in Los Angeles Area

New restaurants in Santa Monica?

thanks for the suggestions. don't think she's been to josie, no. i'll put that on her list. any other don't-miss santa monica restaurants, new or not?

Oct 17, 2006
janelle in Los Angeles Area

New restaurants in Santa Monica?

Have a friend coming to town & staying in Santa Monica -- she's a gourmet foodie & wants recommendations of interesting new places in the Santa Monica area to check out. (She already knows some of the usual suspects: Jiraffe, Violet, Lincoln). I live on the east side and am a little behind on what's going on over on that side of town... anything newish worth checking out?

Oct 16, 2006
janelle in Los Angeles Area

CANELE IN LOZ FELIZ

ate there on saturday night... walked in at 8:30, waited five minutes for a table, very gracious hostess. had the calamari appetizer, which was simple but delicious; and a lamb dish with couscous, in which the lamb was slightly overcooked but the israeli couscous delicious. bread was good sour brown. our entrees took a half hour to arrive, after the appetizers were gone; and we finally complained and were compensated by a free dessert. We weren't in a hurry, though, so didn't care all that much.

Overall, we enjoyed our meal -- there's not a whole lot of decent restaurants in this price range & upscale aesthetic in the neighborhood -- and would go back. A warning: don't order wine by the glass: there was no way that $7 glass was a five ounce pour. Maybe 3 ounces. Do yourself a favor & buy the bottle.

Oct 16, 2006
janelle in Los Angeles Area

Chef Jet's Top Ten LA Thai?

i took his class there. not only was the class great -- an asian cooking class where he really delved into the differences between various asian cooking (japanese soy versus chinese soy, brown sugar versus palm sugar etc) and offered up some great but not too complicated recipes -- but he even met me a few days later at bangkok market in order to walk me through the store and help me stock up my pantry with the appropriate asian cooking sundries. such a nice guy.

Oct 03, 2006
janelle in Los Angeles Area

Your current favorite BLT?

Try Square One - they use incredible thick cut Nueske bacon that is to die for. Plus farmer's market heirloom tomatoes.

Aug 15, 2006
janelle in Los Angeles Area

Square One -- A Short Review

I'm surprised by your review, too. I've had the chorizo eggs skillet and it was great; in general, baking eggs is a challenge because of the issue of uneven cooking, but the skillet I got was perfect. I've also had the pressed egg sandwich, the BLT (the neuske bacon!), the caramelized citrus french toast, and the flank steak sandwich with hollandaise, and all were, I thought, excellent. No raw-burnt-rubbery issues and the only weirdness I noted was the fact that they serve cream instead of half-and-half. Service may be overwhelmed but they are very pleasant and I'm willing to forgive that in such a small start-up establishment.

Wonder if the regular chef was on vacation the day you went?

Jul 24, 2006
janelle in Los Angeles Area

There's No Place Like Home on Hillhurst, Los Feliz

ghastly. i had the worst salmon salad of my life there - salmon so ossified and overcooked, i couldn't even cut it with a KNIFE. even their fries are terrible.

Jul 21, 2006
janelle in Los Angeles Area