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Richmond Restaurants For Northeners

Janet

I don't consider Morton's a part of the local scene - I didn't say I did - of course it is a chain! My point is that out of towners sometimes go to places they know rather than experiment, and Morton is a known quantity. But this particular Mortons is bad. You should avoid it. On Chow boards in other cities, people try to occasionally discuss the local steakhouses, just to give visitors a sense of what's what.

Sensi and Azzurro are both fine - not great - Sensi in particular needs better decor, and last time I was there it smelled like stale smoke and was empty. Neither is something worth writing home about - which is why I didn't write about them.

We'll have to agree to disagree about Millies, and Edos. Again, it's well known that you like these places, and you've mentioned before knowing some of the chef/owners personally. You write most of the reviews about Richmond food on this board. Is it so bad for someone else to have a perspective?

Jun 15, 2012
davemovingsouth in Mid-Atlantic

Richmond Restaurants For Northeners

Janet
Not, that's not right. Richmond is a great town, with (in my view) simply mediocre food. My point is that many of these restaurants are often praised on the board, and they shouldn't be. I've read many of *your* reviews over the years, and though I appreciate your knowledge and enthusiasm, I was trying to provide perspective from someone on the "outside" who nonetheless actually knows a bit about the local food scene.

On Edo's, it is better mid-week. But there is still zero excuse for a wait of more than 20 minutes if you have a reservation. None. Not because it is a weekend. And not even if the food was outstanding, which it is not. It is competent.

On Millies. I don't know - we live nearby. On weekends, there are regularly lines of an hour or more outside. It seems like a relatively classic brunch spot, and if you look on chow threads, it is always mentioned as a top 3 brunch place in town.

Jun 15, 2012
davemovingsouth in Mid-Atlantic

Richmond Restaurants For Northeners

Hi

Long-time lurker, first time poster.

We've been living in Richmond for the past four years, and I've spent a great deal of time on Chow trying to find good places to eat. I've got to say that overall, it's been a real struggle. No matter what some have said on the board, Richmond food is generally not quite there yet - we prefer italian food, and are spoiled as we hail from the northeast. But even southern cuisine here is often disappointing! Because I've found reviews here to be relentlessly upbeat (as compared to boards up north) and because I figured maybe foodie visitors to town would want a more...outsider...perspective, I thought I'd write. These are the "highlights", not of course every place we've been to in town.

Favorites:

Hands down, it's gotta be Juleps. The mains are consistently great - especially stewed lamb shoulder (or osso bucco, depending on the night) and their beef. My wife thinks their fish is cooked to perfection. The fried tomatoes are the best in town, and the wine list is excellent. Overall, it's basically the place in town I'd go to if I wanted to spent $40+ per person, but feel like it was worth the investment, and it provides a hint of southern charm. Also, good cocktails. The only problem is that the place can be a bit loud, especially the upper floor, when it is crowded at night. I'll put it this way: if I had one night in Richmond, I'd go here. If I had two nights in richmond, I'd go here again. Maybe on the third night, I'd try...

Bacchus: to my mind, the best italian/value combo downtown.

Arcadia (excellent starters in particular)

Comfort (kind of fantastic roasted chicken, and friendly staff)

Can Can (meat and fries, crazy loud, but mostly fun)

And that's it, to my mind. Here are places you might be encouraged to go, but should avoid:

Edo's Squid. What can I say? Some people find it charming to wait 2 hours after the reservation time to get in, in a cramped space, with no one apparently in charge of the line. In fact, I've heard on the board here that this is an intentional business strategy! I just think it's silly, and fairly rude. The food is fine - you can find a hundred better italian restaurants near dupont circle, let alone in Philly or NY, where Edo's would be pedestrian going-out italian food. If you are from a town north of DC and East of Albany, you should not, I repeat not, waste your time or dollars. Indeed, we've never gone back after a several bad waiting experiences. If this restaurant was in a foodie town, it'd be out of business in two months flat. Same with Mama Zus, which doesn't even pretend to take reservations.

I just don't get it - I feel like the positive reviews of this place (on chow and yelp) illustrate stockholm syndrome in action. Seriously folks: no restaurant is worth regularly waiting for 2 hours in line to get into, and being treated like they are doing you a favor the whole time. Avoid at all costs.

Amici: Fine northern italian, yet it consistently is recommended as best-in-town. The ambiance could use a sprucing up.

Mortons: I know it is a chain, but for some reason this particular location is not as good as others I've been to. They overcooked our steaks, and the sauteed spinach had too much butter.

Zeus Gallery Cafe: Atmosphere - boo!

Maximo's and Europa. Neither tapas, nor edible. (At Maximo's, recently, we ordered fried vegetables. They had the consistency and taste of wet, unsweetened, funnel cake. I like real funnel cake, but this put me off the stuff for a while.) We went to Europa our first night in town. That, friends, was a grim evening.

Millies also tremendously overrated. They use much too much oil in their omelettes - you can feel it oozing out of you afterwards. And I I tend to think that their food is simply too heavy for brunch, their core meal - I never leave there without a bellyache. Lulus (same owner) is a better bet, even if it is less of a scene.

Bottom's Up Pizza: I know people say this is "unique" and I'm sure that's supposed to be praise. My view is that the dough and the cheese are both tasteless. Decent sauce, and a nice set of ingredients. But I would never actually eat there - you can never get through a meal without a train passing overhead and it's not actually relaxing. We've taken out a few times, and for downtown Richmond, it's probably your best pizza bet. But that's not exactly saying much!

Jun 14, 2012
davemovingsouth in Mid-Atlantic