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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Sharing is always welcome. I'm just in particular need of ideas for things I can take for field trip days since there's no refrigeration and no reusable containers allowed, which is why I posted what I did. It was a post for specific suggestions, but we can open up the campfire to a general discussion about packing, which I personally think more kids should do given what school lunches look like.

Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Oh, I have such a blog already, if I can attention whore myself and post the link here.

https://rockandrollmama.wordpress.com

Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

If you read my original post, we are not allowed to send reusable containers for field trip days, which are at minimum twice a week. I already have little divided, reusable containers that I have been using for his meals for 3 years :)

May 29, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

He loves the Clif kid's bars, they are a staple for snack.

May 29, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Very much appreciate your reply, thanks. As with most parenting things I think it's "try, and then just do the best you can." I did email them asking if purchasing a cooler is an option and for more transparency on what happens to the food on field trip days, like if everything is left smooshed together in the back of a hot bus, or what. I think the frozen drink and gallon ziplock and watching what is packed those days is probably as cautious as I'll get and try not to sweat the rest of it too much. :)

Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Yeah, he won't eat tofu. He's really not a picky kid, but he really likes to know what he is eating and hasn't had enough exposure to it to eat it. He will eat soy meat substitutes like veggie burgers.

I don't eat tofu myself, so that probably influences him.

May 28, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Yeah, he really needs some protein to keep him fueled. He is very, very active and has a very fast metabolism. I already have to supplement his breakfast and lunch with two additional snacks per day that he is allowed to have at his desk, so I need to make sure his camp lunches pack a good punch.

May 28, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

I think many of you would be surprised about the deplorable approach to food in most schools. I knew this was coming when he left private preschool and went to public kindergarten. There are only so many battles I can fight. I've already had to fight continually to get them to quit giving my kid food in extended care as it is not FOOD, it's garbage, and to explain to my kid that the likely reason all three of the people who run extended care are very, very obese is because they eat like that all the time, and that it's not healthy.

Never mind the 25 times a year someone sends in cupcakes or whatever because it's a kid's birthday, and on every holiday, parents send home goodie bags of candy for everyone. It is just a never ending battle.

Just wait until he starts an organized sport. I will be that mom insisting he does not need a freaking gatorade and bag of doritos just for running around on a field for 45 minutes.

He threw a huge tantrum the other day because they were getting ready to have popsicles and I wouldn't let him stay and have one. They are the cheapest, nastiest popsicles you can get and sorry, but no. I told him we would buy or make popsicles from real fruit and he could have them at home. But it gets tiresome being the odd mom out and making my kid the odd one out as well. And this is only his first year in elementary.

Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

I appreciate all the continued comments and concerns. Generally, I think they aren't leaving for a field trip until at least 9 or 9:30, maybe 10, and so lunches are only going to sit out for a couple of hours. These are not cushy chartered buses, they are the regular school buses.

I understand hills to die on and all that, and I get the disposable lunch request since making sure everyone has their container to bring back would be a nightmare with 100 kids.

Maybe things are different where you all live but I have zero other choices for camp besides this one, I have been researching it for more than a year and a half. "Camp" to most camps in my area, means starting at 9am with no before-care available, and ending at 3 or 4 in the afternoon, and camp lasting maybe two or three weeks. I have to be to work at 7:30, I drop off my kid at before-care at 6:45-7am each day, and I work until 4:30 and can't get back to picking him up until around 5-5:15 each day. Going somewhere where there is no before/after care is simply not an option. I have no childcare options that would include someone taking him to and from camp and spending time with him in the morning/evening until I get home, and with the cost of camp, hiring someone professional for those hours would be way more than I can afford.

He has to go to this camp, period. I will bring up the idea of a cooler but I don't hold out a lot of hope.

Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

I have enough to complain about with these people. You should see what they give them for snack, which is why I disallow them to feed my child anything. It's the same group that runs the before/after care at his elementary. One time I came in to pick him up and afternoon "snack" (at 5pm) was a big coffee filter overflowing with Cheetos and a can of pop. No wonder little Johnny doesn't want to eat dinner, he's filling up on garbage at extended care.

I have to pick my battles with them, KWIM?

Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Same, same, same. I keep harping, "take small bites" or "chew that up" but then he clowns. Oy. Kids.

Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

If we can digress, no, not a lunatic. Story from a couple years ago, a friend of mine who has a child same age as mine and is on the board of a local pool (so, this is a true story from a friend, not internet fake story). One of the members had a 7 year old daughter (almost 8 at the time, so two years older than my kid is right now) who was playing with friends at the pool, coming back and forth snacking on snacks the Mom had, which included grapes.

As kids are wont to do, whether you like it or not, the girl was eating many of the grapes whole. And the kid being almost 8, the mom quit cutting up food years before.

The girl choked on a grape. The teenagers staffing the center, who are trained in basic first aid but are really just lifeguards, could not dislodge it and 911 was called. While waiting for EMS, the girl passed out and the mom panicked and freaked and insisted she would drive the girl herself to the hospital, that she couldn't wait for EMS. Against the advice of the staff there and other people at the center, she put her daughter in the back seat and tried to get her there in time. But failed.

X-rays done later showed the daughter's stomach full of whole, unchewed grapes. The mom had no idea the kid wasn't chewing the grapes up. And it was a terrible, terrible tragedy, obviously.

So yeah, I cut my son's food up, and will continue to do so, even if it embarrasses him. Even if he doesn't want me to. Even if other parents make fun of me for doing it. Call me anything you want, a lunatic, helicopter, overprotective, as long as I still get to tuck my kid into bed at night.

Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Everyone has had such great ideas. I do love this board even though I haven't had much of a chance to be active in quite a while.

Now that I know I just have to be really, really clear about what days are field trip days and what days aren't, and can pack his regular insulated bag on non-field trip days, that's a little bit less intimidating.

I'm going to take the idea a couple of people had of doing a frozen juice box or bottled water in a ziplock, and then putting the rest of the lunch in a big gallon zip as the "lunch bag" for the day on field trip days. I will write his name on it AND put it in a paper sack so it's not transparent in case he's weird about people looking at his food or something. Kids are so weird. And I will keep field trip foods to those I know are hearty enough to survive well until lunch without a lot of risk. Some great suggestions here and lots to think about.

Thank you all and I will keep checking back.

Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Yeah, on field trip days, stuff will be outdoors until it is time to eat. Maybe even stored on the bus. Ugh. No refrigeration is provided for any lunches, ever. However, on days they don't take field trips, they stay at the school and he can bring his insulated bag those days. So really just a couple of days a week I have to get creative.

May 27, 2015
rockandroller1 in Home Cooking

Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Yes, I still cut sausages and HDs lengthwise, and cut his grapes and grape tomatoes in half. I even cut up carrot sticks so they aren't round, but longer and thinner sticks.

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

nope, no coolers. It will be in his locker if they are not on a field trip. Otherwise I believe they will all be thrown together somehow.

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

This is great, thank you!

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Eh, dip isn't really necessary to his being and sounds like more a pain than I want or need to deal with. Ugh.

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

I hate the thought of cups with lids being thrown out. I will just have to get over it, I guess. Ugh. Yes, I would need to peel the egg in advance as him peeling it would just frustrate him and he wouldn't bother, but could wrap in foil.

He likes cut veggies just fine, no ranch necessary, thank goodness. Side dishes I'm less worried about as he loves all produce. It's more mains I'm trying to come up with.

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Thank you!!

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Thank you!

Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Thanks. I'm hoping it will be a better situation than what I imagine, but since orientation is not until the day before, who knows.

I will see if I can email the director. Generally, they are just not as concerned about things like this as I am. The camp is run by the organization that runs his extended care (before/after school) and I had to quickly forbid them giving my son any of their daily "snacks" because snack consists of things like pop and three cups of cheetos. Unfortunately, they are the only camp in town that has the hours that I need for drop off and pick up, so I have no choice of where to send him.

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

My kid doesn't love sandwiches either but he will do them once and awhile. I tend to do more meat stuff and then crackers separately like tapas, he likes that. But am not sure about sending something like processed turkey lunchmeat in a sack lunch.

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Yes, agreed. He won't do stuff if it's "too weird" but he's likely to just eat with his hand rather than not eat - the kid is a good eater even though he's nothing but bones. But would be good to ask.

Thank you for the suggestions!

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Thank you!!! Yes, I mean the underwood stuff :)

I will look into experimenting with some kind of chicken mousse and see if I can make something palatable.

I think a calzone might get soggy as heck. But like the quiche idea.

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

good, I agree about HB eggs. Harder cheeses, yes. He can do the babybel, we had to practice a bit but now those are a staple and he can do them if I take off the outside plastic wrapper and just pull a bit of the string of the wax wrapper so he knows where to start.

I ate lunchmeat and stuff with no refrigeration either when I was a kid, including sandwiches with mayo. I just would feel like crap if I got my kid sick.

One of the things I intend to find out is WHERE the lunches will be kept. I get that they won't be in a cool fridge but I hope they will at least not be sitting outside or something, though on field trip days they will most likely be outside or even in the back of a hot bus, which would really suck.

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Ah, that's an interesting idea.

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

Correct, everything (for lunch) is thrown out so containers have to be disposable. I plan to buy a big thing of ziplock bags from Costco and will attempt not to cringe at the waste. I'm not sure how extra clothes are handled, it's a question I intend to ask at orientation but that is the DAY BEFORE camp starts so not a lot of prep time after that. I imagine campers will be provided or can bring a backpack for extra clothes, bug spray, sunscreen and the like. But lunch is a separate bag and they're all put together, I believe, and stored together until lunchtime, which often times will be away from base camp (which is actually a school). They take field trips like twice a week.

Rice salad! I didn't even think of rice salad. Great idea.

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

can't do anything that requires a fridge or reusable container. That's why I'm not sure about stuff like ham or cooked chicken. But summer sausage! I almost forgot about that and surely "trail" bologna are ok, given it's for eating on the trail.

LOVE The DIY nachos idea. That is awesome!

May 27, 2015
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Sack lunches for little kid, no fridge

He loves grape tomatoes (I cut them in half). Quiche is an interesting idea. Are you sure cooked eggs could be left out for like 4 hours? That seems kind of risky.

He is not much into spreads of any kind. He will eat whole beans though, so maybe I should delve into different kinds of bean, veg and pasta salads.

I used to take this stuff called chicken spread in my lunch, came in a can, wonderful stuff but obviously full of garbage and not something I want to give my kid. I wonder if I could make it somehow.

He loves peas and corn frozen, I can put those in there and they will be thawed by lunch or just a little frozen and still tasty. Maybe I can throw those into the salads.

May 27, 2015
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