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Berlin/Germany -- Döner kebab sauces.. what ARE they?

Jun 22, 2013
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Doner Kebab

Baghdad: http://goo.gl/maps/UnvFP
(Too bad the Street View picture is so terrible.) In the days before the fall of the wall, this was the end of the U1 U-Bahn line and Baghdad was in a more-or-less dead spot where West Berlin ended. It was a favourite place to chow down after a night of drinking.

Jun 22, 2013
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Doner Kebab

Baghdad at Schlesisches Tor has been a Berlin institution for decades. And I kind of like the Rosenthaler Grill- und Schlemmerbuffet at Rosenthaler Platz. http://goo.gl/maps/RF7c0 As long as the salad ingredients are fresh and the quality of the meat is good, the doener will be good. I was recently in the hospital with Remzi Kaplan, the so-called Doener King whose firm is the largest supplier of doener kebap meat in Europe, and he confirmed that the one at Rosenthaler Platz is considered a good one.
Recently, we were on Karl-Marx-Str. in Neukölln close to the Karl-Marx-Str. U-Bahn station, and stopped for a doener at a place on the right-hand side as you walk toward Karl-Marx-Platz, round about Uttmannstrasse. It was a nice clean place which seemed to be a lunch-time favourite with local Turkish people. The doener was delicious. I'm sorry, I don't remember the name of the place. Basically, in the Turkish part of town, any place that looks clean and well-attended will be good.

Jun 22, 2013
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Noto Berlin: Noto ever again

So I finally decided to check out Noto on Torstrasse after reading all the hype and overblown reviews. In short: it was pricey, the food was passable, the service was lacking.

Granted we were there rather early because we were having a get-together with an elderly friend who was leaving Berlin early the next morning. My wife, who prefers not to eat much meat, tried to order the only vegetarian dish on the menu, a tortellini. She was told this was "not yet ready, maybe it would take an hour." So she ordered a salad to have something to eat in the meantime. Later (after more than an hour) she was still waiting for her tortellini, and the waiter claimed not to have understood that she had indeed ordered it. So, in the end, all she got was the salad, no main course. There was no language problem -- all interaction was in German.

Our friend had Beelitzer Spargel which proved to be too tough to cut with a table knife. So he resourcefully used his Swiss army knife.

I was the big eater. I had the grilled sardines appetizer which was tasty if rather oily for a grilled dish, and the lamb and wild salad special main course. The lamb was very tender, but lacked any significant flavour -- could have used more garlic and herbs in my opinion. It was better after I salted and peppered it. The wild salad was imaginative, with flowers and various unusual greens -- the best part of the meal.

The dessert was OK, nothing special.

There are SO many restaurants in Berlin where we would have eaten better with much better service for the €90 this cost us in total (with only beer not wine). I will not return and will not be recommending Noto.

Jun 22, 2013
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Calling Lingua food!

He needs to ask the cab driver for Winterfeldtplatz. Or get the U-Bahn to Nollendorfplatz and it's a short walk: http://goo.gl/maps/DrW32

Depending on where he's staying, there are plenty of other markets which may be more conveniently located.

May 12, 2013
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Food Shopping Help in Berlin... Emphasis on HELP!!

The OP is probably long gone, but just for the record, I have lived for many years "between Rosenthaler Platz and Bernauer Strasse." This is my 'hood, otherwise known as the Rosenthaler Vorstadt. We do our basic shopping at the Kaiser's on Fürstenberger Strasse or in the Schönhauser Arkaden, which is indeed a mall, not "a mall-ish place." We get a lot of our fruit and vegetables at the large weekly market in Kollwitzplatz (very high quality) or at the Turkish fruit and veggie market on Kastanienallee. There's also top quality meat and fish at Kollwitzplatz. Occasionally we shop at Kaufhof at Alexanderplatz, especially for things like smoked salmon. We get excellent meat at the Fleischerei Mischke on Schönhauser Allee near Eberswalder Strasse U-Bahn station. We've gone a few times to the LPG at Kollwitz and Metzerstasse, but decided it wasn't worth the extra expense and hassle. As for bread, there are bakeries all over, but the one on Wolliner Strasse near Arkonaplatz is renowned well beyond this neighbourhood.

Sep 16, 2012
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Berlin, Oderquelle -- I just don't get it....

Well, since I posted that over one year ago I've dined a couple times at the Oderquelle. I've never found it to be anything more than reasonably good. Nice but not wonderful. Certainly nothing I'd go across town to if it weren't in my neighbourhood. By the way, further up Oderburger Strasse, a new Turkish place has opened which is good value, tasty dishes. There's a new French restaurant a couple doors down from the O'quelle, which we've yet to try. On Oderburger, Indian Village has good, solid Indian cuisine at low prices. But avoid both "Thai" places, especially the one on the corner with Eberswalder Strasse.

Jun 28, 2009
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Asian in Berlin -- and Germany, in general

I just got back from 3 weeks in Bangkok, and while I agree with you regarding the sheer profusion of wonderful food there compared to here, I have to say Kamala's Laap Moo stands up to anything I had in BKK's sois and food courts.

Jun 28, 2009
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Asian in Berlin -- and Germany, in general

At least as far as Thai is concerned, you can eat every bit as well here as in Bangkok. My favourite is Kamala on Oranienburger Strasse, where just today I shared a delicious lunch with a friend of som tam, laap muu and vegetarian spring rolls, washed down by a Beerlao.

And they don't dumb it down (unless you ask), and they WILL spice it up if you tell them "Chop aharn phet," or "Make it spicy."

Kamala is owned by the same folks as Mao Thai, which is fancier and much pricier but does NOT have better food. Serving staff at Kamala are mostly Lao (not Vietnamese as is common here) and the cook is first rate.

Jun 01, 2009
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Berlin, Oderquelle -- I just don't get it....

I've lived for many years, like, right around the corner from the Oderquelle and I never knew it was anything other than the usual bar-restaurant until I stumbled on this forum just now. Looks like I'll have to check it out!

Meanwhile, we celebrated our 26th anniversary at Restaurant Maxwell the other day and once again I thought it was well worth walking down the hill to Bergstrasse for. (http://www.mxwl.de/index_gb.htm) Most of the time we end up going for Thai at Kamala on Oranienburger Str. which is the best Thai I've ever had outside of Bangkok. Or just a nan pizza at Gordon W's imbiss on Kastanienallee. (Gordon is a Canadian food artist ie a conceptual artist whose artistic expression involves the preparation of food. No kidding.)

May 24, 2008
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Mid-priced dining options in Berlin?

For creative dining in a great atmosphere, I highly recommend Maxwell, Bergstr. 22 in Mitte. http://www.mxwl.de/index_gb.htm

May 24, 2008
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