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Report back on Manhattan trip - the sweet and the savory

Went to Manhattan for the weekend and, after hours of research on this board, ate at many frequently recommended spots. Here's my personal take on what I had:

Sweets report
Donut Plant – big disappointment, perhaps because my expectations were very high given all the accolades on this board. Yes, there’s a great variety of interesting flavors, but in the end, I just don’t think the donuts tasted that good. I got a tres leche (cake) donut, a carrot cake (cake) donut, a coconut cream square (yeast) donut and the cinnamon bun. The bun was very, very dry and absolutely not worth eating. The carrot cake tasted like deep fried overly sweet carrot cake. The tres leche’s flavor did not seem to me at all like what tres leche should taste like and the interior texture was mealy. The coconut cream was the only donut I thought had a nice flavor because of the cream, but somehow the dough part of the donut, which was probably quite good when it was hot out of the fryer, was sort of tasteless and a little too chewy at room temperature.

I went over to Donut Pub (203 W. 14th Ave), having heard that they had great apple fritters. The apple fritters were, in fact, not particularly good because the exterior was not crunchy. But, I thought Donut Pub had excellent old-fashioned glazed donuts. Exactly as a donut should be – crispy outside with lots of glaze, and a fluffy, moist cake interior that had a nice sweet taste apart from the glaze. To me, these donuts were MUCH better than Donut Plant and a lot less expensive (I think they were about $1.70 each). Another delicious surprise was something I’d never seen or heard of before called a Pom Pom – a glazed marble cake donut in the shape of those pull-apart monkey breads with a dollop of jam on top. I’m not a big fan of jam so I scraped it off, but the donut itself was yummy.

The chocolate chip walnut cookies at Levain Bakery met the hype. It was delicious – warm, soft, moist melty center and nicely crunchy on the outside. Also got the oatmeal raisin cookie, which was good but slightly bland. The cookies are extra thick - about 2 inches high. Be prepared, though, it’s a $4 cookie.


We went to dinner at Café Asean (117 W. 10th). The Sotong (salt and pepper fried calamari appetizer) was delicious. Perfectly crispy, made from fresh, tender, sweet squid. The Asian dipping sauce was delicious (probably fish sauce, lime, sugar, hot pepper among the ingredients). My main dish - monkfish and scallop in a coconut sauce - was pretty good but a little bland. My friend’s Panang curry clay pot special was delicious – the sauce had bold flavors complimenting the creaminess of the coconut milk. My other friend got the slow braised ribs, the sauce on which was also delicious. My sister got the chicken sautéed with vegetables, lemongrass and chilies. The sauce was very tasty but somehow the chicken itself didn’t absorb much of it and become that flavorful.

R.U.B. – Ordered burnt ends for take out at noon. Ate some of them outside the restaurant on the sidewalk while they were hot. Very tasty – smoky, rich, fatty. I preferred them plain rather than dipped in the BBQ sauce. A day later heated up in the toaster oven, they tasted still quite good.

Murray’s cheese shop’s egg sandwich melt was delicious. Smoky, greasy goodness. My only minor complaint is that the bacon (which tasted fantastic) was a little soggy/fatty. My sister’s bacon was crispy, so it seems like luck of the draw. I would have specified in my order to make it crispy had I known. The melts are only take out, as there’s nowhere to sit.

Whitefish salad – based on the board’s recommendations, I went to Barney Greengrass for whitefish salad. I found it to be good but not great. The fish was mild, almost sweet (in a good way) but the mayonaisey stuff surrounding it was flavored in a way that reminded me of sweet relish. Again, not bad but hard to believe it’s the best NYC has to offer. Since we were close to Zabars, I tried their “chunky whitefish salad” as well. The fish in this salad was smokier than BG’s and tasty, but the mayonnaise was not good. It was really, really heavy and had a taste that didn’t appeal. Perhaps I’m being too harsh because I’m comparing it to a fantastic whitefish salad in the Boston area (Maxie’s Deli in Stoughton. If you go, they get the fish from NYC on Fridays, then make it in house, and usually run out by Monday).

Bagels – my sister’s favorite bagels in the city are Brooklyn Bagel (286 8th Ave). I can’t say I’ve tried enough in the city to compare, but I agree they are fantastic. They have that perfect leathery exterior and dense (but not too dense) chewy interior. Our favorite flavor is the multigrain, which isn’t a usual favorite of mine elsewhere, but at Brooklyn Bagel, this flavor is absolutely delicious. The bagels are insanely and unnecessarily huge, but who’s complaining since the size does not detract from the quality.

Dec 18, 2012
debo in Manhattan

3 quick shout outs

I never noticed the seeds, but I do like the crust and feel it suits the toppings. Their verdure pizza with grilled baby artichokes, sautéed mushrooms of various varieties, and carmelized onions is also superb. They also have a salad with an excellent, unusual vinaigrette.

I agree it's expensive.. I wonder if the business can sustain those prices given that it's in Allston.

Sep 25, 2012
debo in Greater Boston Area

3 quick shout outs

I've been meaning to post about 3 fantastic items I've eaten recently.

1. The Uova pizza at Ecco pizzaria in Boston ( I got it as a 6' breakfast pizza and it was truly fantastic. A sunnyside up farm egg, fruitwood smoked uncured bacon (extraordinary) and some white sauce, all on a really good, chewy thin crust. The smell alone was intoxicating. It had people's head turning as I walked by.

2. The miso soup at Shiki in Coolidge Corner ( Subtle, complex flavors and yet pure in it's simplicity. Delicious.

3. The corn bread with sweet butter at Trina's Starlight Lounge ( Until I tasted this, I had yet to find the perfect cornbread. It is so moist, the perfect degree of dense, the perfect amount of sweet (just a little). It's served warm with an ice cream scoop of melting sweet butter. While it is quite large, I had to have two. I wish I could get this recipe.


Sep 25, 2012
debo in Greater Boston Area

Large group (35) seeking dinner in Chinatown (may need private room)

After a conference in downtown crossing, about 35 people hope to walk to chinatown for dinner.

We'll be having a speaker at dinner, so we'd like to have a space (private room?) where that person can be heard while also not bothering other patrons.

We are also seeking to keep costs down, so we're looking for mid-priced restaurants, and we're thinking a pre-set buffet might be easier than folks' ordering individually.

Any suggestions?


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debo in Greater Boston Area

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debo in Greater Boston Area

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Thanks to all of you for your helpful recommendations. I will direct them to my good friend on whose behalf I posted this question (she didn't yet have an account). In Boston, I'm a big fan of the Taiwan Cafe should any of you come to visit.
A quick reply to Melanie Wong that I have enjoyed the pleasure of contributing to the Boston board on numerous occasions.

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debo in San Francisco Bay Area

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We're new to this area from the East Coast where Chinese food is amazing. Please help me find a great Cantonese restaurant in either Palo Alto or Menlo Park. A big plus if the Wanton soup is fantastic. Thanks.

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debo in San Francisco Bay Area

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Folks, you all know how good - and bad - boneless pork spareribs can be. The great ones IMO are well coated with glaze and burnt/crispy. If I could, I'd get all end pieces.

I've also had terrible ones that are barely glazed and flabby.

Please direct me to fantastic boneless pork spareribs. I work near Chinatown, so that's more convenient, but I'll travel if they're worth it.


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debo in Greater Boston Area

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I'm trying to find a place in Quincy to have dinner for a group of about 20 people (a few are vegetarians).

It'd be easiest if we could find a place that has a dinner buffet. A lot of the Chinese and Indian places mentioned on Chowhound have buffets only at lunchtime.

I did find Terra Brasil Steakhouse, which has a dinner buffet/BBQ. Has anyone eaten there and liked the food and atmosphere?

Your suggestions would be very helpful.


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debo in Greater Boston Area

fabulous spiral ham?

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I decided to buy the New Braunfel. It's supposed to arrive Thursday, so I'll let you all know how it is.

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debo in Greater Boston Area

fabulous spiral ham?

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One time I went to Harvest Co-op in Cambridge and they had a great one in the prepared food section, but I've never seen it since. (This was ideal because I could buy the slices by the pound. I'd prefer not to buy a whole one because my husband is a vegetarian I could never finish it myself.)


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debo in Greater Boston Area

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debo in All New England Archive

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debo in Greater Boston Area

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On a side note, the filet of sole entree was also absolutely delicious.

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debo in Greater Boston Area

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Please help!

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