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Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Okay, bad example. Charlottesville is more like Chapel Hill. But Charlottesville is still its own unique entity, just like Richmond is . Richmond, many would agree, is much more 'Southern" in feel than places such as Nashville, Charlotte, or Atlanta. Charlottesville is Southern because it is. Southern. Its in the South. Even with lots of Northern college kids there, its Southern. It has a large black population for its area, which is more typically Southern. Its featured on the tv show "The Waltons"- a show about a Southern mountain family in Virginia.The dress code for many is still seersucker suits and bow ties. It has the Southern Frat mentality there- still.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Cville is only 1 town in Virginia. One place doesn't represent the whole state. That being said, you can get much more Southern food in Charlottesville than you do in Baltimore or New Jersey. Charlottesville is a college town, and college towns tend to have more outsiders and liberals. But its still not nothern. There's nothing Northern about Charlottesville, or even "Northern Virginia" for that matter. I

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

No, many other Virginians I know don't consider themselves Mid-Atlantic either. But I will take that over 'Northeast'. Thats just absurd.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

That is just 1 map.
According to Wiki, Virginia is a South Atlantic state
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia

http://etc.usf.edu/maps/pages/4400/44...

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Virginians ARE REAL SOUTHERNERS. It is the oldest Southern state. I tell people from Alabama, "Y'all are just copying us", lol. They are just jealous. They can't claim Robert E. Lee or Patsy Cline or Country Music- all came from Virginia.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

I met a lady giving a tour of the Margaret Mitchell house in Atlanta and she was from Georgia, and she asked me where I was from, and I said "Virginia" and she said it was nice to meet a fellow Southerner. So there. BTW, Virginia was Southern long before Alabama was even a state.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Richmond is "somewhat Southern", Are you kidding?" Richmond is very Southern, and its much more Southern than Raleigh, Nashville, or Atlanta. Richmond people are very much like Charleston people. Even the accents are similar. Of course its not the Deep South, but its still the South, Richmond is like Like Boston? On what planet are you on?. I know the areas well. Kentucky is nowhere near as Southern as Virginia. And Southwest VA is Appalachia, once again- different.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

I meant, because it was near the mountains.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Well, I live in Richmond. but I go to Charlottesville almost every other weekend to play music. I know that town very well. Its is nothing like the DC area. I would compare it to maybe Ashville, NC or maybe even Fredericksburg . I know it does have quite a bit of people from the Northeast that have come down there in recent years, but its still a small Southern college town. Im just almost puzzled how you could even say its even remotely like DC. Its like the opposite of DC.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Its not just the "Confederacy", Im talking about Virginia cuisine. Thats why its important for Chowhound. Virginia culinary is traditionally 'Southern". In fact, most dishes we know about from the South, originated here. Including BBQ, spoonbread, sweet tea, etc. All from Virginia. If you don't believe me, look it up. I give up, because everyone obviously insists Virginia is not Southern at all and its basically like New Jersey. So whatever.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

According to Wiki, def, of Virginia, Virginia is a South Atlantic state. Look it up for yourself. Also, Virginia schools are listed with the Southern Association of Colleges and Universities.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Charlottesville is nothing like DC. Its a small college town. Apples and oranges. UVA has a lot of Northern students that come down to go to school there. The local people aren't Northerners, they are Southerners. I dont usually like to stereotype either, but one of the people that towed my car away was like Boss Hog and had a junkyard dog and everything. C-ville is very artsy, but its laid back and Southern artsy. And NC Chapel Hill is almost identical to C-ville in personality. There is much racial tension in C-ville between whites and the Negroes. But Im not saying that makes it more "Southern", but its definitely nothing like DC.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

In the vast global scheme of things, I guess it really doesn't matter. But it is annoying.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

A poll was done about 20 years ago that asked people from various Southern states do you consider yourself Southern. About 70% of Virginians said "yes" to that question. So , a vast majority of Virginians are Southern. Look up a "A Very Richmond Phone Call" on youtube. Two very Southern Belles talking on the phone. Or should I say "Mid-Atlantic " belles, lol. Oh, whatever. If you have a problem with Virginia bein' in the South, you're free to move North, lol.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

If you go to the former "Chowhound South" , it lists all the states on "South" including KY-TN and then it has the "Southeast Boards". so yes it is listed in the South. It certainly isn't listed as Midwest or Mid-Atlantic.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Um, that is not true. Maybe for people in Northern Virginia. Richmond is very much the South, and Charlottesville is too. Danville, Lynchburg, etc. The only areas in Virginia that are not as Southern as they used to be are Hampton Roads and Northern Virginia. Hampton Roads is largely military , and NOVA of course is Gov't workers. Virginia by and large is very much like North Carolina, although I will say, North Carolina is losing its Southern feeling too. Richmond is much more Southern , though than Raliegh. BTW, what Charlottesville "locals" do you know? I know many and they are very much Southern. The original "Walton's Mountain" just down the road from there. Charlottesville is halfway between DC and Carolina. But I'm not using North Carolina as a Southern marker. Virginia has its own. Roanoake is more Appalachia Southern, which is a different thing entirely.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

I think it kinda does matter. Its a misrepresentation. Mid-Atlantic is the states of NY, PA, NJ, and DE. Sometimes MD too. But Virginia simply does not mesh with this categorization. I guess nothing can be done about it, but its just silly. If KY gets to be listed on "The South" , then Virginia should be too. Kentucky is virtually indistinguishable from Ohio. I have a Virginia accent, and it sounds nothing like New Joisey people. I dont know why anyone would mistake us for Mid Atlantic. But anyways, Im done with this topic. Obviously no one knows much about Virginia cuisine and our history.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Okay, then Lets Puts South Carolina in the 'Mid-Atlantic" boards and see what happens. Or Kentucky in the Midwest, and see how that goes, shall we? I'm just relieved that Virginia was not put in the "Northeast". My hand to God, how could anyone say we are a Northeastern state? Does that make Georgia a Mid-Atlantic state, lol. Virginia is the South ,damn it.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

You're probably a transplant, lol. But we true Virginians dont say "You guys". . Oh, I dont know, Virginia used to start at the Potomac River. There was a book called "Life below the Potomac". From Leesburg to Danville, it was all Virginian. Now I guess it starts around the Fredericksburg area because the DC sprawl has swallowed up half the state. All of Virginia is the Old South . Its the oldest Southern state.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Thanks for your input. Virginia is not DC. Its Virginia, and Virginia is actually a South Atlantic state along with the Carolinas and Georgia. I do think its possible for regions to overlap each other- you could say the extreme northern part of Virginia is the Southern end of the Mid-Atlantic. But our way of life here is Southern. I drink sweet tea, not unsweet. We don't have mid-atlantic accents here in Virginia. We say Y'all, thank you. North Carolina line is less than an hour's drive from my house. When I travel South I feel at home more than I do when I travel up to NJ and places that actually are "Mid-Atlantic". I hope you understand this is not meant to offend anyone, but Virginians are Southern. Its very much the Old South. Culturally, and Geographically.

Jun 04, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Travelling to Northern Virginia/DC

Red, hot and Blue BBQ
Dixie Bones
Waffle House
There was also a Diner on RT 29 in Fairfax, but I can't remember.

Oh, and BTW, DC is not in Virginia, its in Maryland.

Travelling to Northern Virginia/DC

What do you mean Virginia isn't Southern? There's lots of great Southern food in Virginia. Its the birthplace of all Southern cuisine, in case you didn't know that already.

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Then put Kentuck in the Midwest , then. Its not the South. Virginia is much more Southern than KY . Kentucky wasn't even in the Confederacy.

Jun 03, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Travelling to Northern Virginia/DC

Atlanta is not very "Southern" at all. In fact DC and Atlanta are a lot like in many ways. Both in the South, but non-Southern. Richmond- now thats the South!.

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

No, Virginia is a South Atlantic State- a South Coastal state like North Carolina. Northern Virginia is still in the South geographically, but its a very transient area. The point is, KY is included in "South" If Virginia is "Mid-Atlantic" then Kentucky should be "Midwest'. Hate to break this to you, but Virginia is a Southern state. If anyone has a problem with that, they are free to move North. Northern Virginia is still very different from Maryland. I am from Northern Virginia and Maryland is like a foreign country to me. Richmond most definitely is the South, though. So maybe by today's standards, we could lump NOVA/DC/MD as cut off between South and Mid-Atlantic.

Jun 03, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

They didn't used to be.

Jun 03, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Thats why It should be Virginia and The Carolinas. Im only about an hour's drive from North Carolina. We got good BBQ in Richmond. Cotton and Peanuts grow near where i live. That ain't Mid-Atlantic.

Jun 03, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

Yes, but my point is Kentucky is basically same latitude as Virginia- and Kentucky is included in the " South", but Virgina (which IMO is far more "Southern culturally than KY) is not included in the South. Virginia cuisine is traditionally Southern. I believe Northern Virginia is Southern in comparison to New York and PA, correct me if Im wrong, and certainly Richmond, Virginia is Southern. Its south of Louisville on the map anyway. If they put Kentucky in "South", then so should Virginia be.

Jun 03, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Virginia is in the South, Not the Mid-Atlantic.

If Kentucky is considered "South" then so should Virginia. Its ridiculous to include places like Richmond and Charlottesville in with places like Newark and Camden. What do y'all think?

Jun 03, 2012
mook1 in Site Talk

Best Southern Home Cooking?

I forgot also- Country Fried Steak sounds more like "country" cooking to me, than southern. When I think of Southern cooking I think of Virginia Ham, Spoonbread, Brunswick Stew, etc.

And its funny because I never considered Texas the South. To me it was always out west. But I guess some Texans are Southern. To me its been more like a western state than Southern. I know y'all were in the Confederacy .