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For Future Reference--Chinese Restaurants That Don't Use MSG

A great deal of Chinese cooking involves sauces, which in skilled hands, enhances the main dish. These sauces tend to include salt, sugar, and msg. Farm Cuisine excludes these "unhealthy" I guess "unorganic" ingredients in their sauces, particularly their soups, which may result in a blander taste. I am not 100% certain, but my taste buds detect Green Zone sauces as not much different from most other restaurants. Certainly, Farm Cuisine makes clear their use of organic meats and vegies; Green Zone tends to use organic vegetables, not so much their proteins. I enjoy Green Zone as much as you do, and praise their business model, but if I wanted healthy Chinese food I would go with Farm Cuisine.

Apr 08, 2014
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For Future Reference--Chinese Restaurants That Don't Use MSG

Perhaps you may mean Farm Cuisine was inconsistent. Their grassfed filet mignon was usually terrific, and the price--$16 quite unbelievable. I think their problem was they were too purist in their push for total organic Chinese food, which resulted in some bland dishes. If they had gone halfway, like Green Zone--using marginally organic foods albeit with "regular" sauces, they would have been much more successful.

Apr 08, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

For Future Reference--Chinese Restaurants That Don't Use MSG

MSG is also used pretty liberally in Japanese food, except sashimi, as well, under the ajinomoto name and in pretty much all soup broths, except some meat and bone Chinese and Vietnamese soups that require hours of simmering.

Apr 01, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

For Future Reference--Chinese Restaurants That Don't Use MSG

The recently defunct Farm Cuisine in MPK also did not use msg. Apparently, Chinese like their msg too much; Farm Cuisine would have done much better on the Westside.

Mar 31, 2014
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Paul's Kitchen - glop, glop, gloppiness

Think of it as Tito's tacos, Tommy's burgers, or Pink's hot dogs. Few chowhounds would describe them as the pinnacle of their foodie domain, but they are institutions and once in a while people have a real craving for them, even if they can go to Guisado's, Father's Office, or Dog Haus. For myself, I find Paul's Kitchen a wonderful place for Chinese comfort food, down to the broken rice.

Mar 26, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

My two cents --- the gumbo

Stevie on the strip had the best gumbo I've ever had, but I've never been to NO. Deep roux with a wonderful assortment of seafood. Stevie's also used to serve chicken sandwiches with the bones in them. Great place, but very weird.

Mar 12, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

New Moon - San Marino

San Marino is notorious for not supporting its merchants--not just the city bureaucrats, but the community as well. How Yoshida, Noodle World, and San Marino Seafood ever got there is beyond my imagination.

Mar 07, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

McD's for Filet-o-Fish Fridays in LA [moved from Los Angeles board]

I look forward to this every year. It's about the only time I'll order a FoF, a Micky D comfort food harking back to Sunday postchurch meals at an American "restaurant".

Mar 07, 2014
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Your Go To Comfort Spot

Paul's Kitchen for one note Americanized Chinese food. Like the egg foo young, cha shu, lobster sauce shrimp, and their old, broken rice.

Mar 04, 2014
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For those looking for The Creole Chef….

Their food was terrific. So sad that crime in the area moved them out. Hope they resurface again soon in a better place.

Mar 04, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

Fresh Roast, a coffeehouse in San Gabriel.

They sell real jamaican blue mountain coffee, and they offer it from a syphon coffee maker. I like it because it's just a wacky place with good, interesting coffees. I haven't been in quite a while, but the proprietor Jimmy is well-known for being quite a friendly host. Maybe business isn't doing so well lately.

Mar 03, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

Depressing Places You Like

Uh, yes, like I said, people way past their prime... in their 20's, and the pizza is tonnage, not so much quality, but if you like it, kudos.

Feb 21, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

Depressing Places You Like

Try Petrillo's pizza in San Gabriel--the tonnage of the pizza feels like a dumbell, but it's all about the people, who are well, well past their prime in life.

Feb 16, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

Gourmet chicken fried steak?

It may not be the meat so much as the technique used to bring out the flavor of the bison. Someone in Dallas must have taken the time to perfect some chicken frying details and kitchen equipment to do that. Might be interesting to see what they can do with a chicken fried filet or ribeye.

Feb 15, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

What restaurant do you really really really miss that is now closed ?????

Wow, my first French restaurant in Montebello, of all places! Kudos to my late mom, who humored her brood's prepubescent chowhound instincts. None of my family knew what the hell we were eating, but the proprietor was gracious and very nice.

Feb 15, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area
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Valentines Dinner

If you're in Eagle Rock, try a couple of neighborhood joints, like Cafe Beaujolais on Colorado--real French waiters with affordable, pretty decent French food, or Columbo's steaks and lasagna, or Maximilian's in Highland Park, or even Mia Sushi on Eagle Rock Blvd. They should all be around the budget you proposed.

Feb 11, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

Huang's BBQ & Seafood House replaces Tasty House on Melrose

Would really be interesting to try this out and see how authentic it really is.

Feb 11, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

Paul's Kitchen, ok, I'm going … Now what are must haves for a joint that will probably have pretty crappy must haves ????

Canton City in Montebello was the first Chinese restaurant I ate with friends, not family. I ordered chow mein, which was chop suey on top of crunchy chung king noodles. I never saw this before in my life, and I called the waiter over and he put his nose next to the dish, then declared that it WAS chow mein. At 15, I didn't argue with adults yet, so I just watched, horrified, by my friends scarfing up Chinese food I've never seen before.

Feb 07, 2014
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Har Lam Kee (Monterey Park) Closing

Wow, my late father and I used to eat there. Hope the family will reopen someplace else.

Feb 06, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

New Moon Cafe Opens Up In FigAt7th

Thanks, David, this was before my time, but I find it fascinating. Apparently, the Phoenix restaurant chain also morphed into something quite different than its original institution.

Jan 14, 2014
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New Moon Cafe Opens Up In FigAt7th

Did New Moon derive from an earlier Cantonese Chinatown restaurant? I thought they were a relatively new Chinese restaurant based in Montrose and expanding into somewhat affluent areas cooking up better quality American Chinese food for non-Chinese.

Jan 14, 2014
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

Restaurants near El Sereno

Some neighborhood joints worth a visit could be Charlie's Trio up the street on Huntington, Plum Tree for Chinese and Barkley's for drinks in So Pas.

Dec 13, 2013
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Need Chinese restaurant for family Christmas dinner

We went once to Fu-Shing with in-laws and never returned. It is basically 1970's "exotic" spicy Chinese food. I understand the appeal, but find it hard to justify the cost when better Chinese food is so easy to find.

Dec 13, 2013
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

Need Chinese restaurant for family Christmas dinner

You are ironically asking foodies for recommendations for non-Chinese Chinese restaurants, or "bad" Chinese restaurants.

Having said that, here goes, with no personal comments on the quality of the food-- Fu-Shing in Pasadena should be large enough for a private room.

I might suggest that you go to any large authentic Chinese restaurant, such as Mission 261, Empress Harbor, Elite, Sea Harbour and ask them to make the kind of Chinese dishes you have in mind. Do your homework--don't insult them by asking Sea Harbour to make chop suey for you. You are essentially asking them to downgrade their cooking skills for you, but they probably have the kungpao chicken, beef with broccoli, and lettuce wraps that you are looking for.

Dec 12, 2013
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

Christmas Day dim sum or brunch in SGV. Where to go?

I've never been to Christmas Day dimsum, but you can probably expect the quality of the dimsum to be proportional to the wait. So, Sea Harbor, Lunasia, Elite are probably going to be a wait, along with 5 star, which is not great, but acceptable and cheap. Ocean Star, Empress Harbor, Capital seafood in MPK and Arcadia probably will be better wait times.

Dec 11, 2013
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Gogo's Bistro, soul food in Boyle Hts

Been there a couple times over the past year. Meatloaf was okay, mashed potatoes were homemade with nice texture, chicken fried steak was made with real steak but missed on the taste. Everything else was pretty basic. Friendly folks, but haven't been back and probably won't unless I have a hankering in the area.

Nov 26, 2013
cfylong in Los Angeles Area

Where can I find Chinese turkey in the SGV? - the 2013 edition

You can try ACC Chinese Fast Food in Alhambra, between Costco and King Hua restaurant. The name sounds terrible, and I can't vouch for the fast food there, but they do a surprisingly nice job of preparing Chinese turkeys and it is one their specialties. You can bring in your own or order one of theirs.

Nov 19, 2013
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Paul's Kitchen Profiled On Page 1 of LA Times

Thanks for the article. I have been meaning to make it down there, and maybe it'll be next week. I noticed they mentioned First Chinese Congressional Church, which has moved out to El Monte now. Cool article.

Nov 18, 2013
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Fresh Sushi/Montebello Area

Taihei in MPK is good for cooked foods. Sushi not so much.

Nov 02, 2013
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Fresh Sushi/Montebello Area

They have gone down in quality and service really really fast. Will no longer recommend.

Oct 25, 2013
cfylong in Los Angeles Area