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Humble Suggestion--Rethinking Linked Stories' Proper Location

I actually do have a heart, you know. It's just that it used to be Dick Cheney's. Didn't cost me much, and it takes up only a fifth of the space my old one did.

about 4 hours ago
MGZ in Site Talk
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Humble Suggestion--Rethinking Linked Stories' Proper Location

Yes, to both questions. The propriety of the former persisting or the latter being executed is determined by the Mods. I'll defer to them to explain it, since I'm not sure I could effectively do so.

about 5 hours ago
MGZ in Site Talk

Humble Suggestion--Rethinking Linked Stories' Proper Location

No sweat. Airing out confusion inures to the benefit of everyone.

about 5 hours ago
MGZ in Site Talk

Humble Suggestion--Rethinking Linked Stories' Proper Location

Yes. The Board dictates the focus. So when the thread was opened in GT by me, it suggested a different direction than if I had wanted it in FM. It's not like I moved it. I know quite well what happens to non-TV threads in FM.

about 5 hours ago
MGZ in Site Talk

Humble Suggestion--Rethinking Linked Stories' Proper Location

Yes, that's basically what we all understand. The point is to rethink moving threads to FM&N when the intention is the latter. Particularly in light of the announcements made when the feature was implemented. The text of the OP and the original board choice should carry more weight, perhaps?

about 6 hours ago
MGZ in Site Talk
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Humble Suggestion--Rethinking Linked Stories' Proper Location

That is the reason, but the question is whether or not it's a good one. I actually am wondering if it would have stayed had I simply posted the same thing with a link in the text instead of using the new "Link" feature.

about 6 hours ago
MGZ in Site Talk

Humble Suggestion--Rethinking Linked Stories' Proper Location

Fair enough (and likely quite representative). Thanks.

Edit: Upon reflection, I'll note that I sometimes wonder whether some people view the OP and/or the existing posts on a thread as too much homework.

about 8 hours ago
MGZ in Site Talk

KFC Crosses the Line

Though I'll likely never have one of those, it warms my heart to see folks pushing the envelope of sandwich design.

about 8 hours ago
MGZ in Chains

Humble Suggestion--Rethinking Linked Stories' Proper Location

I have a somewhat related question. Viewing on the phone, are you generally more disinclined to follow links and read the material therein?

about 9 hours ago
MGZ in Site Talk

Humble Suggestion--Rethinking Linked Stories' Proper Location

"General Topics would be my choice."

It was mine too - and, not without deliberation. I really wanted to open the door to a broader "authenticity" discussion using that article as a jumping off point. I was not putting an article that was dryly satirical up for a debate on the piece or the author's writing skills.

Edit: I did try to steer the discussion in that direction, so the fault is likely mine for not doing a better job of it. Nevertheless, the bigger problem really remains that the FM&N Board is a ghost town unless the subject is Food television. Maybe that should be the sole purpose of the Board and links to articles should be categorized by subject matter/location?

about 10 hours ago
MGZ in Site Talk

Chili Is a Local Specialty With a Specific History. Beans Are Not Part of That History.

I saw that I can get a copy from my local library.* I appreciate the heads up.

* There I go, sounding really old again . . . .

about 10 hours ago
MGZ in Food Media & News

Hounds, help us decide

But, the tricky part is that even words of moral support can have a latent, political undertone. Implicit in a message of condolence for the loss of innocent lives, is an endorsement of the point of view that they were in fact innocent (again, I'm trying to keep this fundamentally hypothetical, at least for now). Even if that point of view is rational and the one held by a vast majority, it can be viewed as vaguely political.

Again, it seems to me that the test has to be along the lines of whether a reasonable person, under the circumstances, could view the comments as primarily intended to be politically neutral, i.e., expressed to convey a message greater than the religious/political implications.

The examples I used the other day were appeals to celebrity/public figure and literary characters to convey broader points, as opposed to intended to reject or endorse a point of view about the subjects or their meanings. I submit that they would thus pass the test. Nevertheless, PSRaT's post has reminded me that there is a certain amount caution which should be taken when considering this issue for an international community and that having some sort of articulated "test" is a good idea (for both posters and the Mods who will have to enforce it).

about 10 hours ago
MGZ in Site Talk

Hounds, help us decide

Note: to be clear, by "out of context," I'm trying to propose a guide without grounding it in any specific event. I do not propose that context not be an essential factor in applying any rule adopted.

about 13 hours ago
MGZ in Site Talk

Hounds, help us decide

I'm trying to respond without opening the floodgates of issues related to the examples. I do see the depth of nuance which can come in to play. So with the fact that I'm leaving the underlying analysts out, I'd propose this guideline:

"Can the message reasonably be read to be politically neutral?"

I think even out of context this might provide a usable litmus, but I'm reserving the right to develop the notion more.

about 14 hours ago
MGZ in Site Talk

Chili Is a Local Specialty With a Specific History. Beans Are Not Part of That History.

I wholeheartedly concur. (In fact, I'm afraid that this thread has become history, now that it's been moved to the graveyard of the FM&N Board.)

1 day ago
MGZ in Food Media & News

Pat peeves as a guest at a dinner party?

"RELAX! Isn't it about the company, community, conversation and food?"

I'm with you. As long as there's booze and nobody asks me to sign a body part or take a selfie with 'em, I'm happy.

Signs that someone is a GOOD cook

We'd occasionally order food from a Thai place and an Italian joint at the same time. It came with the added bonus of getting to bet on who'd arrive first.

1 day ago
MGZ in General Topics

Chili Is a Local Specialty With a Specific History. Beans Are Not Part of That History.

Well, the "Link" format picked the click-bait title from the article I linked to. Personally, I think I would've gone with either "Can We Trust the State the Gave Us Bush to Know Something About Beans?" or a paraphrase of the words the Bard put in the Prince of Denmark's Mouth: "To Bean or Not to Bean."

Either way, it's a fun read, so long as you let yourself hear the tongue in the author's cheek. Otherwise, it's preposterous dribble worthy of the knee-jerk ire that permeates so much of the comment section. I mean, let's fact it, boiling a protein in a pot with chiles is a pretty damned ancient food in the Western Hemisphere.

In the end, it all really gets us back to thinking about the indefinite concept of authenticity and led me to the following conclusion: Authenticity is like God, feel free to believe in it, but acknowledge the futility of trying to prove it, and spare us the holier than thou bullshit if you must talk about it.

Signs that someone is a GOOD cook

So, the ability to make great food is a sign of a great cook? Don't think you'll get any arguments on that one. It's certainly a better litmus than my old one - sneaking a peak at their coffee to see if they're using one of the coveted "World's #1 Chef" or "I [heart] Cooking" mugs.

Seriously though, I think you've hit on two factors, in particular, that would make for the bases of interesting, independent threads (this one's grown rather long in the tooth, you know?). First, the uses/misuse of acidity in food preparation is certainly an under-discussed subject around here.

Second, and more interesting to me personally, is the more general concept of palate fatigue. I mean, the notion is normally applied to the consequences of tasting comparable flavors repeatedly - wine, coffee, beer, etc. Your suggestion, however, that "competing flavors, seasoning, [and] textures" can lead to similar results is intriguing and certainly lends itself to greater discussion. Personally, I have found enjoyment in meals that were properly disharmonious.

1 day ago
MGZ in General Topics

Some questions for my NJ friends about our home board...

"[W]hen I go to a restaurant and want to post a review, heads up, etc. -- my natural, knee jerk reaction is to do so at mouthfuls."

Maybe you could adopt a new approach: "Write once, post twice."

Jan 30, 2015
MGZ in New Jersey
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The torture of TV reality shows -- featuring Top Chef Just Desserts and Hell's Kitchen

Interesting article - thanks for the link. Here, I had always thought the torture of those shows was watching 'em.

Jan 30, 2015
MGZ in Food Media & News

Some questions for my NJ friends about our home board...

"[T]he philosophical question of why don't more people post, why don't some people post, etc."

That is the $64,000 question now, isn't it? I think discussions like these, especially when permitted on the regional boards, are a very healthy way of permitting consideration of the issues in a more accessible forum.

Jan 30, 2015
MGZ in New Jersey

What I Want When I Go Out

Oh, I've been to a few dinners where I couldn't hear my companions. Some the food saved, some I thought, "This would be a great place to break up with someone." None have ever quite reached the decibel level of a runway at LaGuardia, however (or the VH 1984 Tour).

Jan 30, 2015
MGZ in Not About Food

Some questions for my NJ friends about our home board...

You still owe me a pair of shoes.

Jan 30, 2015
MGZ in New Jersey

Some questions for my NJ friends about our home board...

Well, simply by way of context, I'll note that PhilD's original presentation of the "dinner table" notion was offered as a quasi-guideline - a "think of posting this way" kind of thing. That was what I had in mind when I revived the concept so as to create context for my thoughts on "reviews" on this Site. Nevertheless, I think that when we take your idea of broadening the discussion, it gets significantly more interesting.

We part ways on the "dead medium" conception. I just don't see it having evolved that way, as compared to say a newspaper column, or magazine article. Although it can appear static at times (for example it's taken nine hours for me to respond to you and extend the conversation), it never really is. There is always the opportunity for rebuttal, discussion, extension, other voices, opinions, informative links, pictures, etc. It's here where we confront another point of division among many 'hounds.

In my view, it is the dialectic in the discussions that provides the greatest value to the most people. I express an opinion, you express something to the contrary, odds are, the truth is in the middle somewhere, but it's there - the synthesis is there - for a third person to find. The past twenty years in American public discourse has suffered from over-polarization, which makes sense because we were finding our voices in a new means of expression. Today, however, we're crossing (slowly, perhaps) into an age of nuance, as we realize neither black nor white provides answers to grey questions.

Part of this is the acceptance of such a mindset. While the speaker bears great responsibility for expression, the listener is not without duty. From my own perspective, I don't see much by way of belittling or attacking, and when I do, I too am disappointed and annoyed. Likewise, I'm disappointed and annoyed that we miss new and additional voices at the table because of the idiocy of a few.

For me, I've matured enough to befriend reason. I know I've never set out to hurt anyone with anything I've posted, so I'll at first assume whoever I'm reading is coming from the same place. I know that I use wit and self-deprecation sometimes to lighten disagreement and overall tone. I know that everything I proffer (unless followed by a link to data or something) is opinion.* Consequently, I'll try to reread in light of those notions; often more than once. If that fails, that's what the flag button is for - the Mods are pretty good at getting rid of shithead comments, after all.

In other words, the "conversation" is two-way. Sometimes the troubles which grow are clearly the fault of the "listeners" misunderstanding or impatience. I'm sure many of us have seen examples. There is relevance to the context, assuming an incorrect meaning of a word one doesn't know is inexcusable in the era of Google, there is no crime in asking for a clarification. As with all conflict, the course is determined by the actions of the second party.

As to the "Ignore" button issue, I have never participated in any format that includes one, so I can't speak from experience. There have been other discussions of the feature on the Site (as you may very well know). For example, http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/884106 The conclusion seems to have been "don't look if you don't wanna see," but there's certainly room for additional thoughts on the subject.

(Since I'm a bit rushed this morning, I'll stop what's teetering upon rambling, apologize for a lack of patient proofreading, and look forward to other thoughts and points of view.

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* Over the years, I have repeatedly joked about how silly it seems to include IMO or IMHO in a post - no one in their right minds think any other person discussing anchovies in a Bolognese sauce is speaking Gospel truth, right?

Jan 30, 2015
MGZ in New Jersey

What's YOUR Chow?

I'm only still here 'cause I promised your kids I'd keep you safe.

Jan 29, 2015
MGZ in Site Talk

Hounds, help us decide

Oh, I get it. Guess I was thinking politics. You know, like the usual ladies at the Coffee Klatch had been joined by Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton or something.

Jan 29, 2015
MGZ in Site Talk

What I Want When I Go Out

I guess I've never had a meal at a place that loud (unless you count eating mushrooms at a Van Halen concert), so I guess I'll have to reserve blanket absolution just in case.

Some questions for my NJ friends about our home board...

I had to look up "net cop" (I like learning new words). I had never really been aware of that level of policing, but it does help explain an almost apologetic e-mail I once received from the Mods after they felt compelled to delete a post/subthread due to the vociferous flagging of a single 'hound.

Jan 29, 2015
MGZ in New Jersey

Some questions for my NJ friends about our home board...

Triggered by what I read here yesterday, I found myself thinking about the state of "reviews" on this Board (and other regional boards I've read in the past year or so) as I made my coffee this morning. I agree that they are fewer and further between these days, but I'm inclined to believe that that is the product of the development of this Site. After all, this is still quite a nascent form of communication.

It has features of written dissertation, colloquial conversation, slide-show presentation, and simple entertainment. Over the years, I've been acutely aware of this and played with it some. The primary conclusion I've come to is that we're still driving on an unmapped road, though the direction has been pretty well determined. Chowhound has evolved to be the forum for interactive engagement. Yelp!, on the other hand, has evolved to be the forum for more unilateral exposition. I suppose it's for this reason that I've strayed away from more self-indulgent, multi-page "reviews" and towards a highlight reel presentation of things that I found personally valuable and those that I think benefit others in their future dining contemplations.

Another 'hound once analogized Chowhound threads to a conversation at the dinner table with a group of family and friends. I liked that. Yeah, sure, sometimes Uncle Fred says some really stupid shit, but it can be taken with a grain of salt - we're just here to break bread, right? Knowing when, and how, to tell the whole story, in such a context, isn't always easy, but, done right, it can certainly be rewarding for everyone. Just so long as there's time for questions after.

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Then again, maybe that's all just a bunch of nonsense vomited out to rationalize the fact that I haven't had a meal in long while that moved me to describe it in all its gluttonous glory.

Jan 29, 2015
MGZ in New Jersey
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