Just a comment about the KA. I have a K 5 A that I bought used in 1989. It works like a charm to this day. Frankly, see no reason to buy another since it's done everything I've ever asked it to. I use the extrusion attachment for pasta with great results. The disks make linguini, spaghetti, tubular pasta, and sheets of pasta wide enough for ravioli and lasagna. Made a lasagne verde bolognese recently w/whole wheat green lasagne, hence the verde, and completely vegan. Guests pronounced it the best lasagna they had ever eaten, then I told them it was vegan. (One of my guest was vegan and I told him before dinner but swore him to secrecy. Sure surprised a lot of people, apparently, pleasantly.