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Flour + Water v. Central Kitchen [San Francisco]

I wonder if the new chef has continued to rework his "team". We're going back next week with another couple to see if it's really that good. Will report back.

Flour + Water v. Central Kitchen [San Francisco]

Central Kitchen would be my choice, as much as I love the pasta at F+W. My husband and I were at CK for dinner last night. A day before we asked to increase our rez to 4, but they said they were fully booked for our 7pm slot. But that evening we noticed there were a few empty tables. However, the kitchen was working hard. That tells me they're trying to manage their reservations based on the meals they can put out. A good thing.

The music was a bit loud for us (mainly due to a vocalist with a high voice), so they changed the track and it got quieter. Very accommodating. In fact, service from everyone throughout couldn't have been more friendly, helpful or attentive. Everything was well paced and came out piping hot.

Now for the food. This was our first time so I had no idea what to expect. We started with their Cured Trout, shared the Spaghetti Nero, and then had the Pot Roast and Black Cod for mains. Oh god, everything was unbelievably good. The spaghetti with crab was silky and delicious, with a hint of spiciness. Both the pot roast and cod were cooked perfectly and meltingly tender. I'm on Open Table this morning to rebook.

I usually pass on dessert, but everything was done so well I thought it was a good time to make an exception. Chocolate custard for H and lemon pepper poundcake for me. Again, a hit. I'm not easily impressed, but CK's food has a definite wow-factor.

Please (oh please) review/comment on our hurriedly cobbled list....

Ah, but the sole purpose of this list is tell you the hours and address of any market you may be near, not to tell you where to go. Very helpful info. But rue Montorgueil and even rue Réaumur may well be your best bets.

Dec 11, 2014
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Please (oh please) review/comment on our hurriedly cobbled list....

Your week sounds wonderful! We spent a month this fall visiting markets everyday. So many of them had a beautiful selection of prepared foods—tagines, stews, cooked veggies, patés, mousses, smoked fish—that we often remarked how interesting it would be to come to Paris and eat only what one finds in the markets. The Marché d’Aligre (12th) is fabulous, the Marché Bastille (11th) is huge and the Marché Président Wilson (16th) is selective, but this time of year the covered markets might be more inviting, such as the Marché Couvert d’Aligre, M.C. des Enfants Rouges (3rd), M.C. Saint-Quintin and M.C. Saint-Martin, plus others you can find on this handy list: http://marche.equipement.paris.fr/tou...

Dec 10, 2014
sfcarole in France

Yam'Tcha bao-mania sounds too good to be true

Has anyone tried this yet? http://lefooding.com/en/restaurants/r...

Dec 06, 2014
sfcarole in France

Table d'Aki

Beam me up Scotty.

Dec 06, 2014
sfcarole in France

Paris from mid-September to mid-October!

Btw, your questions are likely to get more attention if you post separately or on the NYE link above or one of the other posts for late December-early January options. You can find those by using the search function and limit search to this board.

Dec 06, 2014
sfcarole in France

Paris from mid-September to mid-October!

I know I posted a reply here last night but somehow it didn't appear. Haven't been to Central Kitchen but we're going next week for R's birthday. I love Range, a frequent stop for out of town guests.

Dec 06, 2014
sfcarole in France

Paris from mid-September to mid-October!

Slight typo there - it's A. Noste at 6 bis rue du 4 septembre.

Dec 05, 2014
sfcarole in France

Paris from mid-September to mid-October!

Re NYE, check out this thread which has some interesting suggestions, including Le Timbre that JT mentions below: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9965...

But whatever you do, you should probably move fast. Maybe call the concierge at your hotel to ask them to book for you or call the restaurants yourself. Many speak English. (But don't assume; better to ask first).

Or perhaps check out La Fourchette.com. It's like opentable. A quick look for NYE revealed a number of faves including Au Bon Coin (and I can't think of a better NYE's spot), Le Bistrot du Maquis, Le Sergent Recruteur, Les Climats (but pricey NYE menu) and a few others frequently mentioned here. Just plunge in and you're done.

Dec 05, 2014
sfcarole in France

Paris from mid-September to mid-October!

You'll love le Bat and l'Assiette. Interesting you're thinking of Frank Enee since that's on my list for next year.

One favorite on this board is Le Galopin. You might read this thread: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9842...

All the places you mentioned in San Francisco are places I love too. And considering how noisy A16 can be, you might not mind Bones as much as I did. It's another favorite of many who post here. You also might try a Noste for lunch downstairs for some interesting tapas like plates. Not sure what's available the four nights you're in Paris, but check these. I'll think of more later...

Dec 05, 2014
sfcarole in France

Restaurants near musee d'orsay

And don't forget to stop in for afternoon tea or a chocolat chaud or gifts to take home (or to your apartment!) at the new Jacques Genin shop on the SE corner of rue du Bac and rue de Varenne. Many of us can't leave town without a good supply of the mango-passionfruit caramels and some pâte de fruit.

Dec 03, 2014
sfcarole in France

Restaurants near musee d'orsay

And there's also Le 122 which is a great bargain at lunchtime and only a few blocks away.

Nov 29, 2014
sfcarole in France

Restaurants near musee d'orsay

Check out comments about Les Climats on this board. We had lunch there this autumn and loved it. It's right on rue de Lille.

Nov 28, 2014
sfcarole in France

Paris -- our stay in the 9th

Yes, great write-up, thank you. More ideas for next year! We also loved the Marché St. Quentin; we went there several times the year before last. Now I'll have to try a sampling from the dim sum lady. I recall there were also a number of interesting foodie shops in the immediate area. That swiss chard gratin recipe from P. Wells cookbook has become a staple item at our home as well.

Nov 24, 2014
sfcarole in France

8 days near Le Marche D'Aligre

Thanks for that. Stay tuned until next September.

Nov 21, 2014
sfcarole in France

8 days near Le Marche D'Aligre

This was very interesting to read since I plan to try Bones again next year after a less-than-ideal experience there last month. And it makes sense to try the bar area as you did, and as suggested by others on this board. It sounds great. And I'm not surprised about the service. That was one thing that was really so friendly and helpful as you said. But I'm curious as to what time of the evening you stopped by...

Nov 21, 2014
sfcarole in France

Can I get a recommendation for a restaurant for dinner in Marin?

Thanks Jake Dear. I just happened to be looking for a Marin restaurant for tonight and just made a res at Valenti's. Love Picco but they were full, and we have never tried Valenti's.

Paris from mid-September to mid-October!

Oh let's plan on it!!! Only 10 months to go!

Nov 15, 2014
sfcarole in France

Paris from mid-September to mid-October!

I think a week will be 25% better. ;)

Nov 15, 2014
sfcarole in France

Paris from mid-September to mid-October!

Not sure yet, but will let you know when I do.

Nov 15, 2014
sfcarole in France

Paris from mid-September to mid-October!

And it was great to finally meet you at b patisserie this morning!

Nov 11, 2014
sfcarole in France

Paris from mid-September to mid-October!

I can't wait to see you all! As it turns out, R will be cycling in Italy for one week of our time in Paris. So I'll be on my own and hope that some of you might join me for lunch or dinner that week.

Nov 11, 2014
sfcarole in France

Paris from mid-September to mid-October!

Thanks Renovoguy. Well, aside from sharing the damage inflicted on our credit cards, R also prepared a spreadsheet (!!!) of all the restaurants we visited with columns for the date, name, type of resto, arrondissement, price and whether it met, exceeded or was below expectations, as well as his comments. You’ve all heard my opinions above, so let me share with you the places R listed as Exceeded Expectations, with his comments. Btw, according to his spreadsheet our average meal was 95€ for two, with wine for me only, which was usually two glasses. We ate in every arrondissements except the 4th (where we were staying!), the 8th, 15th and 20th. We’ll try to fill those in next year, maybe with Les Nautes (4th), Neva Cuisine (8th), Le Pario (15th) and Le Baratin (20th). Already plotting…

So, here are R’s Faves with his unedited comments: Pierre Sang in Oberkampf (“All interesting - food, venue”); O Divin (“A real neighborhood surprise”); Restaurant Will (“What a little treasure”); Les Enfants Rouges (“Another treasure”); Le BAT (“Fun place and good food”); Le Lulli (“In a hotel? Wow. A quiet place - a must return”); Bistrot du Maquis (“This is my kind of neighborhood gem”); A. Noste (“Unique; fun and interesting food”); Hugo Desnoyer (“Wow - a lot of fun and good food”); La Table d’Eugène (“Another neighborhood gem”); Les Climats (“Elegant, but relaxed and fun”); Le Clown Bar (“Friendly and interesting good food”); L’Assiette (“Wow, wow, wow. The Paris bistro (shhhh)”); Pramil (“Good food; weird service; great value”); Les Deserteurs (“Excellent food, helpful service, modern bistro”). I could quibble with a few on his Exceeded list, as well as a few omissions to same, but how boring if we agreed on everything. And, wow, we did have a good time! And I really don’t know how to thank all of you on CH for making this trip so immensely special. Following your leads opened Paris up to us in a whole new way. And btw, we have already reserved the apartment for next year, same time frame, but for five weeks. :)

Nov 10, 2014
sfcarole in France

5 nights in Paris

You may want to consider Les Deserteurs in the 11th. We had dinner there our last night in Paris and loved it. Also, I think you mean Château Richeux (not Richieux). Sounds like a great trip!

Nov 10, 2014
sfcarole in France

Long report: a Franco-African week in Paris

So very interesting & fun to read! Plus lots of great ideas for next year. Thank you for taking the time to post this.

Nov 10, 2014
sfcarole in France

Alex Croquet's Kouign Amann

So when are you going to invite me over???

Nov 07, 2014
sfcarole in France

Alex Croquet's Kouign Amann

That may have to be the perfect first night back in Paris dinner for next September.

Nov 04, 2014
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Alex Croquet's Kouign Amann

"I have never approached the filled ones...anywhere. I don't get the point". Me neither. Never tried them.

Nov 04, 2014
sfcarole in France

Alex Croquet's Kouign Amann

Yes - I've been addicted to them from the day B Patisserie opened. I didn't even know what they were called. I think they told me it was some house speciality. Not too sweet either.

Nov 04, 2014
sfcarole in France