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Is there a "funk" in Ritual's coffee?

beans as in green? or roasting companies? Would be happy to recommend Ecco's Kenya Gichathaini roasted most likely by yours truly. :)

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322 Lorton Ave, Burlingame, CA 94010

Oct 30, 2009
lamaquina in San Francisco Bay Area

Is there a "funk" in Ritual's coffee?

Thanks Sugartoof! I brought a little west coast style to Gimme! But the coffee has improved due largely to a change in QC/roasting personnel and really trying to push the envelope of what coffee should be. I like to think Gimme succeeds because it really doesn't buy into any roasting style except what suits a particular coffee best...seriously. I am no longer a company man, so I am not sucking up...I am speaking from a place of having worked for several roasters and Gimme! is going great places...keep them o your list. You are right, there is NO WAY Gimme can compare to other roasters in regards to scale. Gimme is not in the league alongside Stumptown or Intelligentsia, but I would say they are definitely toe to toe with Ritual.

Sep 28, 2009
lamaquina in San Francisco Bay Area

Is there a "funk" in Ritual's coffee?

I agree with Ridge. The purchased green coffee quality is really, really good at Ritual. their coffee green buyer is Q-certified. I think their profiling is a little different than most folks, and their consistency is not quite there yet. They are still a very young roasting company, and I believe from what i have tasted they are definitely leaning towards the euro (dutch/norwegian) style of roasting...super light and not too far beyond first crack. However in regards to PURE tasting, the coffee I believe is lacking in total development. It smells good, but falls flat/apart in the the cup. I have had several baked coffees, but one that was stellar was one I had last year from Honduras Finca Moreno I believe. It was lovely, and full in the cup.
All that to say that yes, you can buy beautiful coffees but if your roasting is not on, the coffee will not shine.

Sep 28, 2009
lamaquina in San Francisco Bay Area

Is there a "funk" in Ritual's coffee?

What RWORANGE is saying is that most of the big local roasters are going through importers. However, he/she is incorrect to some extent. Importers DO buy greens and the offer them to roasters, but importers are also a most necessary tool in getting coffees into the country. Meaning, say Stumptown finds a tiny little farm in Ethiopia...and they love the coffee, they will get an importer contracted to bring the coffee in. They are using the importer as a tool, but they are NOT buying the coffee directly from the importer. Also, as with Gimme, exporting programs will seek our micro-roasters to try some coffees they have been working with, and in this case Gimme would have to find an importer to bring that coffee in, again, NOT buying the warehouse coffee from that importer. Make sense?
so the big boys like Stumptown, Intelligentsia, 49th Parallel...these guys are actually mostly using importers to bring coffee in and NOT buying from an offering sheet.
Intelligentsia only uses ONE importer, as they are importing 95% of their own coffees. That's right, Intelligentsia has its very ow importing company so the coffees are arriving 2-3 months earlier into the country which is fantastic on all ends.

Sep 28, 2009
lamaquina in San Francisco Bay Area

Is there a "funk" in Ritual's coffee?

you are mostly right Alan, except that chocolate is a roasting product. Chocolate is not inherent in the bean. I am a coffee roaster, and have worked for Stumptown, Ritual and Gimme (true story). Floral and fruit notes are inherent in the bean since it comes from a fruit that has a flower that is reminiscent of jasmine blossoms. Cat pee is certainly an agricultural/processing defect. Sourness is a combination of both process and roasting, but mostly it is a product of an underdeveloped roast...close to baking if not roasting.

Sep 24, 2009
lamaquina in San Francisco Bay Area

Is there a "funk" in Ritual's coffee?

Hey there,
I just resigned from Gimme coffee in Ithaca. I was their quality control specialist. I'm moving back to Cali! The relationship coffees, and I am not bullshitting here, were not about just visiting farms but truly making a commitment to have that relationship in regards to CONSTANT feedback with the exporters/producers and being committed to buying their coffee every year. Pretty simple. We get samples from these noted coffees every week, and every week we cupped and sent feedback. They came to Ithaca and Gimme's director of coffee went down there a couple of times. This is a new thing for Gimme! so it will be a while, but I get the feelings from cupping the results of the efforts, that it is something they will continue doing. btw, what is you email address?

Sep 24, 2009
lamaquina in San Francisco Bay Area

Boston-based chow-er looking for a very San Francisco, of the moment restaurant?

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Jan 18, 2009
lamaquina in San Francisco Bay Area