How can quality just drop? You either use a pit cooker or not, for the most part, right?
I called Q BBQ in midlo, the person on the phone said they smoke it for ~16 hours. I asked her what exactly she cooked it in, I think she started to sort of stumble but definitely knew to say nice things about how long they cook it. I wasn't trying to be mean, I asked her if it was pit and she said yea, and about how they use wood. That sounds good, I suppose I'll try it later.
Is blue ridge Pig worth driving to from richmond? If it is, I'll definitely check it out.
Pierce's pit bbq is fast food. I've always liked the place, but I never considered the place bbq, more like a fast food stop along the way to the beach. The ribs there are horrible.
Wood chicks does not look promising, I'll look into it though...
No I have not tried Q BBQ. How does it compare to Alamo? All of the reviewers on yelp say things like "its worse than buz and neds but I like it" or "it beats famous daves!" so I don't know how much I can trust that high rating on yelp (after all buz and neds has a very high score too).
Yes carolinadawg. I am.
I've read that thread up and down a dozen times.
I don't know how to put it. Good bbq is just so damn rare, that you would make a point to make it pretty obvious that every other place doesn't come close.
I really don't think I'm knowledgeable about bbq at all. I spent like a year as a 16 year old at the register in a failing business, and eaten at least 30 bbq places. I'm sure there are others out there, who are actually passionate about bbq, who actually know something about it, how it's cooked, what it even is, that know way more than i do. I'm sure there are people who would probably laugh at the bbq I've had as 'good'.
But it's like... there are people who think famous dave's is actually half decent.
I think it's just sticking to these rules now on:
And.... that's it really. I guess I'm just the idiot who keeps wasting his money when he knows better. I just so desperately want that $20 to be good ;/
that thread is full of people who haven't had good bbq... or that's it really i guess. The good posts are drowned out by downvotes by people who say dumb things like 'im vegan' or 'food was okay but this and that yea 3 stars!". And there isn't much reference I guess.
edit: okay, so looking at the end of the thread, someone makes a post kind of like mine, venting frustration about no good bbq around here. Then someone posts saying it's not true, good bbq is around, and oh well bad places are everywhere. Then he says 'big bad wolf bbq'. Seriously? Or people arguing about which branch of famous daves is the best?
and no one updated it?
Seriously, this isn't a decline. This is a plane crash. I know BBQ no matter how bad it is, is still good, like pizza, like sex, like burgers... but this stuff was nasty. At best it's 2 minutes good like orange pork at the mall, and then you buy it after the sample and then stop eating halfway because it's gross. But how do you make green beans that are worse than canned? Can't they just tell it's worse than canned, and just go get canned? I mean really, I just ate some generic canned green beans (heh, my green man ones actually expired, it was last of like a 100 pack i bought in college) and they were way better, and cheaper.
Okay - hear me out.
The problem with looking for good BBQ, is that the best BBQ in an area, will always get rave reviews online, from it's populace, simply because it's the best in it's area. BBQ is like a burger, like a hot dog, like mexican - even if Taco Bell was the best mexican in an area (and say it was made to look like a mom and pop shop), it would get rave reviews (mexican in TN for example). So I always hear about 'amazing' bbq in places, that are huge dissapointments.
But I'll put it this way:
- If the place is a chain, it's not real BBQ
Now, please, understand, I am not some snobby or elitist person here at all! But, once you've had REAL Q, you just don't go back. There's just a huge difference between cooking in a pit, and say, an electric cooker, or with gas. The difference between spending 10+ hours in The Pit, and cooking for 10 minutes over gas, is like a grill compared to microwaved.
And no, I don't like eating in a dirty shack, but when you've had good BBQ only maybe 5-6 places, always just happen to be in a shack, and bad BBQ 20+ times and without fail, each place was some really clean looking place, that was some sort of chain, you kind of understand that some of these places are just 'fast food' of sorts.
And yea, all BBQ is 'good' - in the sense that even taco bell mexican is still tasty, that mcdonalds burgers are still great.
So I'm really getting irritated how many times I've had bad BBQ. People just eat somewhere, it tastes good, and give rave reviews because they don't know what good BBQ is like.
So I'm making this thread where people who know good Q in the VA area, can say where some real Q is. Now I am by far not an expert on Q. Really, I'm quite clueless on good BBQ. I've never been to a competition or anything, I'm not really sure how it's made.
But what I do know, is that I love good BBQ, and I've lived in a lot of places. I always check out new BBQ places. Now really, I'd say I've been to enough BBQ joints that 19 out of 20 times, the place sucks. And I just threw away $20.
But that one time you find it, oh man, is it worth it. I've eaten at a couple Michelin Star restaurants ($300+ for one person, and oh man is it worth it, and mind you I make about $20,000 a year and I'm in my younger 20's, so that should tell you a lot on someone who's too cheap to spend money on anything), I've traveled all over the world, but still, REAL BBQ is better than anything else.
I've had the freshest possible sushi in the world at Tsukiji Fish Market in Japan, I've eaten with billionaires in Barcelona, I've tried pizza and then 'piazzo'. But when I had baby-back-ribs at a bar as a child, I was hooked onto good BBQ. Like I said, I'm not a particularly knowledgeable person. But my background is that I've traveled a ton - I spend my money on backpacking the world, I've lived in multiple states in the US (as an adult), and I drive a ton (I do it for a job, although I'm not a truck driver, but I do drive just as much). I've driven cross country, sidetrack country, up and down country. I've driven to Canada more than twice. And I make a huge effort into finding that 'Best' little gem in everywhere I go. I also worked at a BBQ restaurant for a year as a kid (the best BBQ I've yet to find too, out of business now though).
So I've racked up a few places. So here's a list of some 'bad' BBQ in the Mid-Atlantic area, to keep away people who think they've had good BBQ.
- Famous Daves (really, if you think this is good bbq, I feel sorry)
So when people say "DO YOU LIKE NC STYLE OR VA?" or "Do you like Texas style?", I say I really don't give a ****. Because if it's real BBQ, the sauce will not matter! Just like only a bad steak needs A1 on it, just like the perfect sushi does not need wasabi because the sushi chef has prepared it as it be eaten, real BBQ will just taste so damn good you will not care what kind of sauce is on it.
So... it's funny when people say they don't like NC style, or this or that, or they are fans of Texas style or Kansas style. Really, once you've had good BBQ, you won't care what style it is, so long as the meat itself is good. Because you just want good Q, and that comes from the meat and how it's cooked (after that, the rub). You will gladly eat NC style, or St Louis style, if the meat is cooked right in a pit!
Here's a list of some good places I've eaten though. With good Q, you should be able to taste that what you are eating, used to be a pig. You should really be able to taste the pig - not the pork, but the pig.
The BBQ Pit - Stafford, VA (out of business, sadly. so sadly)
So... anyone got anything else?
Wow I just had KBQ - I drove 30 minutes out of the way to get there, because people said DC Q was so bad.
So okay - I really don't know why people are saying it's so good, but it's the worst BBQ ribs I've *ever* had!
The ribs tasted like chinese food. Like the orange chicken they give out at malls. It looked like it too - you can go on google or yelp and see people who took pictures of the ribs (I wish I did that before going there) the ribs are just emaciated and tiny. They aren't the usual 1" high spare ribs, they are like a cm 'tall'.
I should have known it was horrible when there was no smell, no smoke, they clearly did not have a pit cooker (it appears they have some sort of special cooker in back, but it is definitely not a pit).
I really can't believe anyone would like this stuff.
On top of that, the green beans were tough, pale sick looking green, and horrible. It was like they were boiled 30 minutes too long, they had no flavor, and were tough! How can green beans be tough? I had to cut them with a knife. This isn't a joke at all - generic, grocery store brand canned beans are better. Green man green beans are better. Way better. They were obviously microwaved too, to be reheated.
Then the baked beans. Of all the food, they were edible. That's all I can really say about them. Very sweet, definitely a ton of brown sugar (which is okay, I don't mind lots of sugar). My biggest complaint about them were that they were obviously microwaved - they had that microwaved sort of flavor to them, that and they were clearly microwaved, being about 200* hot. I guess they were alright, but really, nothing better than canned beans.
I could not believe how much of a dissapointment this place was. The ribs were like chinese food, they literally tasted like chinese food, like orange pork at the mall. They were dry, had no flavor...
Even famous dave's is better. And famous dave's is... you know... famous dave's. Anyone who thinks this is good Q, clearly has never had real Q. Alamo in Richmond, M&M Catering in Knoxville, The BBQ Pit in Stafford. Not this. Nooo wayy.
Thus is the way of the BBQ though. The 'best' place in an area always gets rave reviews, because all BBQ is 'good', kind of like hots dogs or burgers. But man, this place? It really tasted like nasty chinese food, I think this is the first time I actually threw out the BBQ instead of at least ate it.