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Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

Diamond Bar is too far for baguette. I can't even remember the last time I was in the area except for maybe driving to the LA Fairgrounds...

I've settled on Amandine for baguette and Bay Cities for a more sandwich friendly variety. On a slight aside Copenhagen in Culver City has great Danish pastries!

Jun 20, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area
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Any great Thai / Indian restaurants in the Westside?

I tried Addi's this weekend and thought it was terrible. Hard to imagine it what I ordered as EVERYTHING was terrible. I just don't get it. Great reviews on Yelp and here on Chow. Our samosa were the frozen food variety, The masala and korma were way too sweet and creamy. The tandoori chicken was dry. I ordered spicy yet everything was incredibly mild - that alone was probably enough to ruin it. I don't understand how the top of their mild-medium-spicy spectrum is 1/10th as spicy as authentic Indian. Zam Zam and Badmaash are still the only Indian places in LA that are halfway decent. I guess I'll need to start exploring Artesia but it's so damn far...

May 27, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Golden Coast Buffet in Alhambra Closed

There are non Asian customers in Alhambra? ;-)

May 12, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

Why are you arguing with me over nothing? I know the difference between rustic french and Viet baguette. I agreed with you yet you still rambled on about the differences?

And I never implied RC sells baguette, nor it was a bakery, etc... I merely stated that that group of restaurants, collectively, are insanely popular in Santa Monica. So much so, that FOR ME the long waits and generally hectic nature (particularly M&O and HB) offset their supposed charm. You're just being a wise ass about it.

Anyway, I did not particularly enjoy the baguette at Huckleberry because it was far too chewy. I found it better suited as a sandwich bread. I stated at the top of the thread I prefer baguette that is crunchy on the outside (as in tears the roof of your mouth) and soft and fluffy inside - a la the style at Amandine. As with many things, there is no one perfect formula. I've enjoyed plenty of baguettes that could be described as chewy, but Huckleberry was not at the top of the list.

May 12, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

Huckleberry's bread is actually Milo & Olive's - that's where they bake it. Had I known, I would have skipped it. Yes Lee's is a totally different animal hence I based my preference on the 3.5:1 price factor.

If Amandine *is* mediocre, I'm sorry that really does not say much for Huckleberry. I've never understood the whole RC, M&O, Huckleberry craze. Absurdly long lines, cramped, zero ambiance to overpay for slightly above average comfort foods...

May 12, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

I tried the baguette a Huckleberry a few weeks ago and was not overly impressed. It's $3.50 and rates average at best. I definitely prefer the $.99 baguette at Lee's Sandwiches when you factor price.

On as slight aside, we were in Santa Barbara this weekend and had the best croissant I've had in the US at Renaud's (maybe anywhere actually). It made Amandine seem mediocre in comparison. I didn't see any baguette otherwise I would have tried it for sure. All the baked goods at Renaud's looked terrific and everything we tried was very good. That place is legit.

May 12, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Yet Another SF Hound Seeking Advice

Funny of all the things I said, that was your takeaway. Anyhow, to expand on my opinion, I can consistently find good Thai Food throughout the Bay Area, whereas in LA, with the exception of street food (Night Market) and some great cheap eats in Thai Town, it's woefully bad. It's dominated by the strip mall places Bob describes and then there are popular places like Chan Dara that aren't even Thai food... That said "much better" may have been overstating especially if I didn't have to drive 45 minutes to Thai Town. In the Bay Area I was never more than 10 minutes away from a decent Thai place.

May 10, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Yet Another SF Hound Seeking Advice

As a SF transplant that's been here 10 years now I suggest getting the stuff you can't get up in SF. The Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and Persian are exceptional here. Spanish, Indian, and Thai are much better in SF. Also not sure if the gastropub burger craze has taken over SF like it has Southern California. I'd suggest Plan Check or Father's Office for that. Go to San Gabriel Valley for Chinese - it crushes anything in SF, even Clement Street. The Japanese food in Torrance is incredible - the breadth and variety is amazing compared to Japantown in SF. There are also a slew of authentic omakase / high end Sushi in West LA. Little Tehran in Westwood has great Persian food. K-Town obviously for Korean. For California cuisine I like Tar & Roses but you can find that type of restaurant in any big city in America.

May 08, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area
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LA not mentioned as a good city for foodies

LA is not a foodie city because the trendy high profile places here by in large suck. The great food is scattered and buried in the ethnic neighborhoods all across the city. They are not the kind of high profile places that attract Conde Naste. But for me, LA is better than say a handful of cities. I'll tell you first hand having grown up there, that the food in Boston sucks and no way it is #10 and LA is not in the top 20. You can't find a good burrito or Chinese restaurant in that city if your life depended on it. And the vaunted North End isn't even real Italian food. It's some weird East Coast - Sicilian offshoot that deviated away a century ago. Any Italian from Italy would chuckle at how much sugar they put in everything and how rare a dente pasta is...

May 08, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area
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K-zo or Sushi Sushi for omakase?

Wife is Japanese and been to Japan more times than I can count...

1. Sushi Zo
2. Shunji
3. Sushi Sushi
4. Sasabune

Apr 29, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

strawberry shortcake?

Believe it or not I had the absolute best strawberry shortcake as a kid in the 70's at a Howard Johnson's. Most of them went out of business and when I finally found another one in the 80's it was not the same. It's sad that now we have to search all over the city and pay a premium for basic treats that 35+ years ago were made fresh and were very tasty at almost any coffee shop...

Apr 29, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Badmaash - Great Lamb Burger

I was answering in earnest. I said the same exact thing in my Yelp review of Badmaash: http://www.yelp.com/biz/badmaash-los-...

Zam Zam is great but it's really sad that it is often referred to here as one of the best Indian restaurants in LA. Is it even a restaurant??? That's kind of my whole point. I certainly can taste the difference in the butter chicken whereas I took my dad there and his comment, not specifically about the butter chicken, was "All Indian restaurants are about the same..." (shakes head)...

Apr 29, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Dinah's Westchester

Fried chicken there is good soul food. As PaulF said, it's not Plan Check - then again I think PC is WAY overpriced. I'd rate it slightly higher than Popeye's - though on an aside, the quality of Popeye's franchises vary considerably.

Apr 29, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Badmaash - Great Lamb Burger

Perhaps you can't discern? One of my principal complaints is that the ingredients in most Indian restaurants in LA are on the really low end - particularly the spices. Fresh spices as well as meats and vegetables make all the difference in the world. It's not Tabla or Amber but Badmaash is GREAT by LA standards for Indian food.

Apr 29, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Moving to 2nd street in Santa Monica, What's good that I can walk to?

Most of the stuff up by the Promenade is either touristy, overpriced, or both.

North
Bay Cities
Mercado
Warszawa
Musha
Tender Greens
Umami

South
Komodo
Dogtown Coffee
Stella Barra
Joe's

M Street, Lula, and some of the better known places are just OK. I guess if I lived walking distance I'd go there but no reason to make a special trip. The best thing about M Street is that they have a great happy hour menu, kids eat free, and they send coupons in the mail frequently. Shockingly they let you combine discounts to where I've felt like I've eaten there for 60-70% off...

Apr 29, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Moving to 2nd street in Santa Monica, What's good that I can walk to?

That 800 Degrees is awful. I don't think anyone who works there has ever tasted a real neapolitan pizza. I've eaten there twice and the pizza is always a slimy mess. My last visit I complained to the manager but even the replacement pizza he personally made was soggy. The Westwood location is better but I've completely soured on that place after a great initial impression.

Apr 29, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

I didn't really ask for a recommendation. I said it was a rant. It was prompted by finally breaking down and trying a Panera for the first time and discovering it was worse than I imagined. I've tried every supermarket (except Jon's) and they are all bad. Jon's is not on the Westside. I'll stick to my occasional visit to Amandine and Huckleberry and call it day.

Apr 17, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

I could extend my comments to almost all breads. I lived in Vienna and Munich for about a year and there was amazing baguette, pretzels, strudels, and croissants at every market, corner, and street vendor.

Apr 17, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

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Apr 17, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

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The irony about the tortilla comment is that you can't even find good tortilla chips at most supermarkets. The stuff that they sell at Whole Foods, Bristol Farms etc.. may be healthy but it pales in comparison to anything you get at a decent Mexican restaurant. You need to go to a Mexican grocery store to get good tortilla chips. So I guess I'm asking way too much to expect decent baguette except at a speciality bakery.

Apr 17, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

The baguette at Bristol Farms and Whole Foods are not very good. I haven't shopped at a Gelsons in years as they are quite far from me. My food life does not stink. There are plenty of great places to eat near me. Shockingly, good baguette is hard to find though.

Apr 17, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

WeHo actually has a much higher crime rate than most neighborhoods on the Westside.

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-...

Apr 17, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area
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Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

C'mon. I'm not lamenting not being able to find pot-au-feu or ratatouille at every street corner. It's BREAD. There are thousands of businesses in LA that bake fresh bread every day. Yet, most people will need to make a special trip to find very good bread. Being a staple food of all Western cuisines, that's kinda surprising to me. It's not very hard to make.

The only logical conclusion I can draw is that most people (Chowhounds on this thread excluded), have never had good bread. And most who have, don't care for it enough to tolerate the short shelf life. Good bread does go stale very quickly. I suspect that is the real reason...

Apr 17, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

Ramen and pizza, both cited over and over on this thread, are not very good analogies. There is decent to very good pizza all over LA. And the same could be said for ramen. West LA is a desert for most asian foods other than Japanese and Middle Eastern. Western food here is generally pretty good if you are willing to pay. But the baguette thing (and bread in general) still baffles me. I'm really surprised that specialty supermarkets like Trader Joes, Whole Foods, and Bristol Farms are well below average.

I'm glad my rant produced a lively thread though and I've become aware of a few more bakeries on the Westside. It still really doesn't solve the issue I have though because driving 30-45 minutes roundtrip to MG to buy baguette isn't practical.

Apr 17, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

One shouldn't have to try every bakery you can to find decent bread. I don't believe it's an unreasonable expectation to find decent bread even at a chain. I actually started this thread right after going to a Panera for the first time. I was shocked at how mediocre all the baked goods were. 25 years ago the Westside had a small chain of restaurants called Cafe Casino that had decent baguette amongst other things. We've actually regressed in that department as it's harder to find now than in 1989...

Apr 17, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

South Pasadena and La Canada are not exactly close to Arcadia or Monterey Park. I don't know how you people find the time to drive 20-30 minutes to buy one item...

Apr 14, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

Do you have kids? The Westside is probably the safest place with good schools that has SOME decent food. Downtown, Venice, West Hollywood, are not options if want a safe neighborhood with good public schools. So ya, kinda a gun to my head. I hate most of my neighbors but live here for my kids. I'm much more a downtown or Abbott Kinney person...

Apr 14, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

Eh - LA is better than most places in the US but is actually below average considering the size of the city. I'm not willing to go down this path again though. Suffice it to say, I can find good almost anything in LA, (especially Middle Eastern / Asian) but baguette is a really basic Western European staple. It's just shocking to me that someone must seek out baguette as if it is a specialty item..

Mastro's, CUT, or STK? Looking for best steak in LA

Mastro's and STK are seriously overrated. A randomly great streak is the T-Bone at Divino in Brentwood. Not on the menu but they almost always have it and it is divine. Having a brick oven or some other cooking apparatus that allows for insanely high temperatures to sear in the flavor and juices is an absolute must...

Apr 14, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area

Why does baguette s*ck in this country...

Fair point but it's BREAD. As in bread and butter. A staple food...

Apr 14, 2014
m3tan in Los Angeles Area