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Instant yeast vs. Fleishman's Rapid Rise Yeast

Then why the need to know this? http://www.traditionaloven.com/conver...

Use Rapid Rise in an Oster 5838 and get you will get flat collapsed results, the bread quickly over proofs due to the massive CO2 release on one kneading, one rise of this yeast. This machine lacks a third processing like a Breadman, it only has two, so it will not knock down the over proof. Rapid Rise does a strong rise and you are suppose to knead, rise, shape it and bake it, it is a time saving yeast, it was created for home, lazy use, giving up flavor and texture. This is the reason for the strong CO2 release. Instant was created for commerical bakers, sold in bulk pounds to get rid of the yeast warm water proofing, commeical bakers want to deal with weight, not volume in dry ingredients, it needs multiple kneading, rising, shaping, etc, just like cake yeast, or Active dry yeast.

Cake, Active Dry yeast, Instant, Rapid Rise are not the same thing other then being yeast, being able to produce CO2. Cake, Active Dry (you warm water proof it), Instant Active Dry yeast (add dry) all behave the same, Rapid Rise is the outlier.

Yes one well known jar yeast maker makes the claim Rapid Rise is a catch all yeast, they are full of something, it isn't yeast, but it sells their jars.

Nov 29, 2013
Oracoke in Home Cooking

Instant yeast vs. Fleishman's Rapid Rise Yeast

Instant Active Dry Yeast gives you two separate rises and it can be used interchangeably with active dry yeast.  

Rapid-Rise Yeast you skip the first rise of the dough and shape the loaves right after kneading.

Given that, I am having to deal with an Oster breadmaker, the machine from hell, I think the Rapid Rise is the problem.

The Red Star yeast site states Instant is to be used in bread machines as is labelled for machines, Fleishment's Rapid Rise is labelled for bread machines, confusing isn't it. The Rapid Rise is too much for the Oster, the bread expands way to much for the pan resting, at bake time will collapse major league, well it collapses 2-3 times, recovers some, when baking starts and one big collapse when done. Interestingly the Rapid Rise works in a Breadman, the Red Star in the Oster.

Instant yeast was created for commercial bakers, Rapid Rise for home. One you can buy in bulk, one in cheesy little packages.

My money is on Active dry yeast and Instant ( in bulk if you can find it). Instant seems to be a jump start on getting the yeast going, directly added to dry, Rapid Rise added to dry but a shortcut on over kneading/resting.

Not sure sure what would work for no knead, we do not do no knead. Yeast shouldn't the this convoluted.

Nov 22, 2013
Oracoke in Home Cooking

Fagor Duo 8 quart pressure cooker, how does the yellow indicator seat under the lid?

I just purchased this, doing test runs with 2 cups of water, 5 minutes high pressure to find and mark the correct low setting on gas stove.

How far up does the yellow indicator seat against the bottom of the lid? I was getting a long 7 minutes to get the yellow indicator, I noticed stream, water under the handle, under the yellow indicator, I bumped it, poped up, went to pressure.

Cooling it down, lid off, I pushed the thumb lock forward and flipped the lid over. I pushed the indicator up  like steam would. Should the indicator with the small washer move flush to the lid aka washer against the lid? Mine doesn't, it stops way short,  on the top part of the handle the yellow indicator just becomes level with the hole, aka doesn't stick out above it, is this normal, should it be higher?

What looks like is happening is it gets slightly jammed going up.

Oct 16, 2013
Oracoke in Cookware

Fagor Duo Pressure Cooker

Thanks for everyone that replied.....
The problem is misinformation, after downloading a lot of PDF manuals of different cookers after my orginial post, I will go with the Duo manual, which seems to be what people are posting , I believe my statements below are how the duo works. I ordered the Duo last week, should show up today.

Check out this video on YouTube:
At 2:17 they seem to compare an apple to an orange aka the popup indicated tells you you are ready to cook. Some models yes, that cone shaped space sauce one in the background, the Fagor Duo, no, it just tells you the pot is pressurized and I believe it then internally locks via of locking the outside thumb slide. The Duo is at pressure when you see steam, you reduce heat, and like a rocker you need to see a little steam from it while it cooks.


Also there is a another video on YouTube of little value, not sure if it is from Fagor, I lost the link, will post the link if I find it. Two, professionally dressed chefs, the women on the left cooks something, she leaves you with the opinion the yellow indicator is the "we are at pressure" indicator for cooking, the man on the right it is the steam that tells you. Interesting they don't show how well the dishes turn out, lol. One of the worst demo videoes I have seen.

I wondered why someone would do a video with two people cooking at the same time, two pressure cookers, then I got it, it is a duo, I bet some pimple faced producer/director sat up all night thinking of that as a selling point to his boss. Too bad the content was so bad. Had a bunch of thumbs own.

Oct 11, 2013
Oracoke in Cookware

Fagor Duo Pressure Cooker

So after lowering the heat should you still see stream, what is the indicator that you have reduced heat too much?

Oct 10, 2013
Oracoke in Cookware

Malted Milk Powder

Are some people confusing malted milk powder with malted powder? I would think malted milk powder would be adding extra milk to the recipe given you just added water to this stuff to make a milk drink. Looks like the King Arthur recipe posted here is using malted milk powder, i.e. 2 Tbl sugar or 1/4 c. malted milk powder. Many old recipes I find call for malted powder so I do find the King Arthur recipe most odd.


Dec 05, 2011
Oracoke in Home Cooking