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U.S. Southern Soul Food [split from UK board]

Its a shame. My thought on that would be to perhaps get with a medium sized restaurant with a decent meat business and a wholesale food account.(if you know any friends in the business) They can probably get any food in the world for the right amount. They unfortunately can sell to retailers but not to the public.

Nov 28, 2011
Foodassasin in General Topics

U.S. Southern Soul Food [split from UK board]

Can't speak for smithfield but there are many farms who could. Supports local farmers anyways. Four oaks farm in south carolina makes some phenomenal smoked cured pepper coated thick cut Bacon.....another southern food staple. Then there is the cajun tasso Ham

Nov 28, 2011
Foodassasin in General Topics

U.S. Southern Soul Food [split from UK board]

Oh I'm sure. I was just allowing those in the UK to get a conceptual idea of southern food. BBQ is a real staple also.... thank God for that!

Nov 28, 2011
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U.S. Southern Soul Food [split from UK board]

As for gravy usually. 2 parts stock/fat to 1 part flour. In the south we say go low and slow. As for how long we say "about a beer" :)

Nov 28, 2011
Foodassasin in General Topics

U.S. Southern Soul Food [split from UK board]

Ok it seems you are beyond the basics. Here are a couple of great sites written by home based foodies. The first is deepsouthdish.com and the other is nolacuisine.com.

As for food travels if you can't go to New Orleans then I would recommend Alabama or the Carolinas to get another southern staple that we could start a whole new thread about Barbeque

Nov 28, 2011
Foodassasin in General Topics

U.S. Southern Soul Food [split from UK board]

Lol I enjoyed your reply frbill. A couple of things id like to add. Your meal sounds almost complete. Where's the mash with gravy? But otherwise pretty authentic. Two I noticed you didn't mention Louisiana cooking in your travels in the South. I joke when I'm there in Louisiana that I'm traveling in search of a bad meal.

As for cookbooks id actually look up Southern Living". Some of the best southern ideas can be found there.

Nov 28, 2011
Foodassasin in General Topics

jacksonville/ponte vedra

Go to urbanspoon there are too many to mention. You dont have to go to an expensive overpriced restaurant to get good food.

Everyone will say Matthews, Medure, Orsay, Bistro Aix, Ruth Chris, etc.

Here are some good places I challenge you to go to that arent super pricy. Als Pizza, Burrito Gallery, Gumbo Ya Ya's, La Nopalera, Copelands, Lemongrass, Mojos BBQ, Mr Taco, French Pantry(arrive at 1130 if you want to get a table)....enjoy. All local and not chains(though they may have multiple locations)

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Burrito Gallery
21 E Adams St, Jacksonville, FL 32202

Bistro Aix
1440 San Marco Blvd, Jacksonville, FL 32207

Medure Restaurant
818 A1A N, Ponte Vedra Beach, FL 32082

Nov 27, 2011
Foodassasin in Florida

Land Shark Lager?!?

Funny story....do you know where the lime trend started? Mexicans use to rub the rim of mexican to kill dysentery bacteria. LOL Its true.

Nov 27, 2011
Foodassasin in Beer

Driving from Tampa, FL to Washington, DC

Sorry Jacksonville is my home town....Dont go to Jenkins BBQ. It was great Im sure many years ago but now its devolved to bottom of the BBQ food chain. Off I-95? Hmm. Hard to reach a good BBQ chain but I would recommend Mojos BBQ,(NC style BBQ) Bono's(chain) or Monroe's(near I-10 and Commonwealth.-a 10 min drive off the path but worth it)

Nov 27, 2011
Foodassasin in Southeast

Top Ribs in FLA

Smokey Bones is a chain(I believe Darden Restaurants ala red lobster).....nuff said. Too corporate not enough soul to be respectable.

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Darden Restaurants
5900 Lake Ellenor Dr, Orlando, FL 32809

Smokey Bones
2693 Gulf To Bay Blvd, Clearwater, FL 33759

Nov 27, 2011
Foodassasin in Florida

Southside Jacksonville / Baymeadows

Agreed it is the best Indian food in Jacksonville hands down, but I would go to Lemongrass(Thai--phenominal Food) if I were you. For the budget and the quality it is really good.

Its off Old Baymeadows Rd near Southside boulevard.

Nov 27, 2011
Foodassasin in Florida

Alligator ribs, anybody?

Fascinating.....only a southerner would dare try to make that happen. Could be the next blackened redfish? LOL

Nov 27, 2011
Foodassasin in Florida

U.S. Southern Soul Food [split from UK board]

FrBill, its interesting to hear your comments about our region of the US the South. Im a serious 40yr old Southerner foodie who also pays close attention to perceptions of food as well. I remember one interesting comment made by Gordon Ramsey a while ago : "American food" was summarized by "the hamburger". Nothing could be more insulting for a serious food person in the US. Of course this was before he started traveling the US and found out that he had never been to Lousiana before 5 yrs ago....WHAT??? LOL, i forgive him as he found a southern food church and repented. The hamburger is a staple of fast food in the US much as curry is the UK(I assume, please correct me if Im wrong). But that trend is changing....tex mex, fresh mex and mexican food is running rampant. As for as traditional real Southern Food its about comfort. Its philosophy is simple: its all about comfort. It is not healthy. Fat, salt, sugar, butter in abundance. Its all here. It is not shy about its use it good eating. Many things are fried(yes like the chicken). Compare our corn meal batter versus the beer batter next time you serve some fish and chips at home. You will find the texture interesting and the taste of corn is an added element.

Southern breakfast is a wonderful experience that hasnt been done outside the US in my travels.

As for our influences, the South is as much a textbook on cultural migration as can be said on any other cuisine save Philipino food.

English setllers influenced by indians is one element. The spanish influence on seafood is another but not as prevalent. The French's amazing ability to transform indiginous animals and plants into a new cuisine is another. Then there is the African slave trade who made a significant and little noted impact on southern cuisine. As to Caribbean food(of which I love immensely) it has some parallel because of the African island plantations for rum and sugar, but it is not southern food.

Next time you are in a major metropolitan area all you need to go is any town off the beaten path on a Sunday and you will find family restaurants that do the best cooking as any publically known. As I do when I go to the UK and get out of London, I go where the locals tell me. They never let me down.

PS check out Southern barbeque next time. It is also a "religious" experience. I look forward to your comments.

Nov 27, 2011
Foodassasin in General Topics

Mambos - Cuban Food in Jacksonville Beach

Robyn, if you are willing to drive there are a couple of great cuban restaurants in jax. The first is Havana Jax located near downtown in St Nicholas area. The other one is Puerta Playa(actually Puerto Rican food but very similar in what you would find in a Cuban restaurant) on the westside off Blanding and San Juan.)

The other special mention is Madrid near St Johns Bluff and Beach Blvd but rumor has it they have sold to new owners so....???

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San Juan Cafe
13260 66th St, Largo, FL 33773

Nov 27, 2011
Foodassasin in Florida

Best BBQ in Jacksonville???`

For those that think Jacksonville doesnt have good BBQ joints they dont get out much. Now GREAT bbq? Now that is subject to as much debate as which region has the best BBQ. That will start another civil war...lol.

Mojo has excellent BBQ IF you like North Carolina style BBQ..that is apple cider vinegar based suaces. I do not like their bbq sauces. Im partially to the mustard Carolina sauces myself.

Nov 27, 2011
Foodassasin in Florida

Jacksonville: Where to eat out on Thanksgiving?

Well, I arrived too late to this post but should you have this question next year....I would say Copelands. Cajun deep fried turkey and great cajun food. Located off Southside boulevard. Jazz music and soft ambiance. I think you will be pleased. Ive done turkey day once or twice. Wasnt disappointed.

Nov 27, 2011
Foodassasin in Florida