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Help me understand New Haven Pizza!!

Sure Bkeats, NYC might have 20 times more Italian-Americans, but they probably also have 20 times more Irish, 20 times more Greek, 20 times more Puerto Ricans, etc..etc. You get the idea. It doesn't change the fact that New Haven county has a higher concentration of Italian-Americans than anywhere in NYC or your odds of running into an Italian-American. There's no flaw there.

Oct 13, 2011
Joey_Z in Southern New England

Help me understand New Haven Pizza!!

I was going from memory, but I was off a bit. CA actually has approximately the same number of Italian-Americans as NJ. The big difference is they comprise 4% of CA's population, while they comprise 18% of NJ's population. Likewise CT has an overall population that's proportionate to it's geographic size, while its I-A percentage is 19%.

But my point remains the same....concentration and population size are two different things. That's why I purposely highlighted the words MORE LIKELY in my original write-up, Bkeats. I was refering to the odds, the probability, the chances, etc. Any good statistician would not be surprised to find good pizza in Connecticut if they knew the facts.

Oct 13, 2011
Joey_Z in Southern New England

Help me understand New Haven Pizza!!

A good pizza place doesn't need to have roots tracing back to Frank Pepes. An overwelming number of Italian immigrants settled in the New Haven area at the turn of the century (many from the Nepals region). Frank Pepe was just one of many who opened a pizza joint. There are numerous lesser known pizza places in the outlying area that could definitely hold their own against some of NYC's best heavy hitters. Tourists only know Pepes.

Little known trivia: The word "pizza" was first mentioned in a major motion picture where its setting took place in New Haven. Not in NYC or NJ. The exact words were "Pizza, what's THAT?"

By the way, I wrote what I wrote tongue in cheek. I've lived in NYC for many years. And I'm hardly characterizing ALL Italian-Americans because I'm merely saying ours is better then theirs. That's tongue in cheek too. OK, no it's not ;-)

Oct 13, 2011
Joey_Z in Southern New England

Help me understand New Haven Pizza!!

I understand what you're saying. But if you want to look at mere quantity numbers (and not pecentages) then look at California. They have more Italian-Americans than any other state. And just look at what great pizza and Italian food they have (rolls eyes).

Yes, I've been to New York. In fact, I'm a former New Yorker.

I wrote what I wrote tongue in cheek of course. But the facts are the facts. You're more likely to run into an Italian-American in CT than any state in the union. Many NY and NJ people don't get that, and think everybody here is from old yankee heritage.

Oct 13, 2011
Joey_Z in Southern New England

Help me understand New Haven Pizza!!

You New Jersey people a funny bunch. You pretty much think you're the experts on everything Italian-American. The truth is that Connectiuct has the highest percentage of Italian-Americans in the nation. Repeat: in the nation. Higher than New York and higher than New Jersey. The reason most people don't associate Connecticut with Italian-Americans is because we don't have the Sapranos, Gotti, or Jersey Shore weirdos televised from our state. Our Italian-Americans have NOT developed a SUB-culture like our friends in NJ or NY. We're just classier by comparison. Yes, classier. We share the same ancestry and cuisine as their Italian-Americans, but we just don't act or look like them orange-tanned weirdos. Hollywood finds us too tame by comparison and therefore doesn't focus on our Italian-Americans. Freaks and side show behavior will always get the camera's attention.

In New Haven county 1 out of 4 residents can trace their ancestry back to Italy. In NYC, that statistic is 1 out of 12. In Brooklyn, that statistic is only 1 out of 8. So take a guess where you're MORE LIKELY to find better pizza??? New Haven or Brooklyn??

What I'm getting at is....we KNOW pizza in Connecticut. It's that simple. That's a shock to many NY and NJ who visit our yankee-heeled New England state, but if they knew simple CT statistical demographics or lived here for a little bit it should be no surprise.

I won't even get into about Rhode Island. Because that's a whole other story....

Oct 13, 2011
Joey_Z in Southern New England

Best pizza to order at Sally's or Pepe's in New Haven?

Answer: One topping: sausage

Case closed. Only weird out-of-staters get the works on their pizzas because they're so used to eating inferior pizza they often need to drown their pizza's shortcomings in toppings. No need to do that with any of the pizza places on Wooster Street (or New Haven for that matter). Get a plain cheese, if you don't like sausage.

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Oct 13, 2011
Joey_Z in Southern New England

Fried clams

In that New Haven - Milford area, I'd recommend either Stowe's Seafood (West Haven) or Captain's Catch (Milford). You can't go wrong with either one.

Oct 13, 2011
Joey_Z in Southern New England

Bufalina now open in Guilford

I had their pizza twice. There's only one size (a good-size small 12"). It's pricey if you get the buffalo mozzarella, so I just usually get the regular mozzarella.

The pizza's are wood-fired and taste very good. They have a smokey crisp flavor to them. You can taste the wood :-)

The inside is super tiny. Expect to get take-out. If a few seats are available at the counter, then you eat inside and watch the nowners operate their tiny kitchen in front of your eyes.

Oct 13, 2011
Joey_Z in Southern New England