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Jack Daniel's is not Bourbon.

see my post just below but KY is the "unofficial" king of bourbon and old bourbon

Jan 27, 2013
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If you hit the powerball and could allow food to dominate your life, where would you reside?

hawaii (of course I can travel anytime I want via boat & plane)

Jan 27, 2013
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Jack Daniel's is not Bourbon.

I tried to reply to the other guy but I guess it never went thru(yesterday)....I am talking about the one you replied to Zin who thought it was a KY thing like champagne in france. He was on the right track(though way off), and you summed it up yourself in your quote:

bourbon is only from the United States of America....at least 'real' bourbon such like only real sherry is from spain, real porto is from portugal, real champagne is from france, etc, etc. Like it or love it, BOURBON is a USA thing!

Jan 24, 2013
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Bourbon Tips

http://www.rebelyellwhiskey.com/

on the site click on shoulder label program....pretty cool, you can create your own label just like a cigar(like if a family member has a baby as an example).

Oct 21, 2012
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Bourbon Tips

Billy Idol named a song after Rebel Yell....in fact he was drinking Rebel Yell with the Rolling Stones the night of and/or the night before when he thought of many lyrics for the song.

*my citation is from the mouth of Billy Idol

Oct 21, 2012
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Hope no one purchased wine from 1855.com

thx for the article

Sep 03, 2012
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Are red wines served too warm?

that's a good point and ideal. I don't have that luxury but do have a cellar so I should probably work something out sometime.

Jul 23, 2012
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Are red wines served too warm?

thx for the post...I guess there is nothing wrong with my habit of never chilling or fridging them(I like reds more too which might be a coincidence//not sure)

Jul 22, 2012
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Are red wines served too warm?

for some reason that is one of the reasons why I enjoy reds though Zin. They can just be opened and poured, and generally speaking this leads to times when I am experiencing different temperatures while drinking them(because they are room temperature and not chilled).

Jul 22, 2012
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Australia's (and maybe the world's) Most Expensive New Release Wine - US$170,000

thank you very much for the link. It was nice to read the history and it lead to more readings.

Jul 16, 2012
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Screw Top - Rant

best part about the box wine growing up(late teen yrs) was being able to smuggle it or drink it without anyone being the wiser on the deed!

Jul 16, 2012
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Oak and Aging Wine

zin and bill I am not trying to be snarky but I think we need to get this going again....that was my point to Bill - over the hill means exactly that(like the proverbial 40th bday card) - over the hill but there is still time before the bottom. another case in point: the 1975 poprtos I have been speaking of in this thread(the year I was born)...if it was 'dead' it wasn't the sewage smelling 'corked' or 'tainted' bottle that any human being would know not to touch his lips to. It was an enjoyable bottle, and I admit I would be hard-pressed to dump it down the drain(but that's just me). My friends and I have called that alcohol abuse since the age of 15. That being said, I am much closer to learning and understanding this stuff after yours and Zin's posts. I do remember a hard cider from madison's home in VA (Montpellier)...a copy of the same way Washington used to make them...I think it went bad but again I drank it and I wasn't able to know if it was bad or if my lack of knowledge just didn't know to tell me if I didn't quite like the taste. It still bubbled - I had always thought that with sodas as an example - if you shook the bottle and it fizzed, the bottle was still airtight and the drink was good. Now I realize we are talking wines here, but my father was coca-cola foods retired, so we drank a lot of sodas(old and new) growing up. And back then my age limited me to drinking "aged" cokes. Lol. ...as for the poprto, I had read some interesting history on the porto business before you mentioned the 1975s, Zin. I guess there was some kinf of threat of takeover, and perhaps even though the threat was over or near over, they fely the best way to 'show um up' was to have a vintage 1975? I hadn't heard it was a bad year though. I did hear 72, 73, and 74 didn't happen.

May 08, 2012
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I will save that info because that sounds like a good idea+something that could help while being enjoyable.

May 07, 2012
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thank you

May 03, 2012
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yes this place that is closing down...going on about one half hour away....always had little wine tasting events, was a local place, and they had a pretty good selection plus even a small collection of microbeers. I never attended the wine event though; I received emails and while adding to my collection one time they were in the process of having one.

May 03, 2012
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ok thanx a lot guys. I am in the richmond virginia surrounding areas and the opposite direction would be about an hour from williamsburg virginia

May 03, 2012
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ok long shot but figured I'd ask. I don't live there, but I have een there before & I just got their 'closing' personal email the other day.

May 03, 2012
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Sunshine, do you own a winestore that is closing at the end of this month: "Sunshine Wines"? ....blackstone virginia....

May 02, 2012
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Thank You very much for your post. How do you 'shop around' to find these classic wines or buy wines that age? I am very interested in doing so. I could ask the guy at the 'real' wine store, but even then I am sort of trusting hearsay. Maybe better would be to shop online with a reputable wine dealer? Or maybe the 3rd choice is the best, should I buy a wine that is already older? I would like to go somewhere like "Total Wine" and be able to spot these burgundies, bordeauxs, etc on my own. Any advice? Also, I appreciated the comments on the tannins and acidic stuff...I have heard and come to learn years ago you are most definitely correct. How can I know these wines from the less acidic and ones with tannins? If it helps, I love red wines the best....part of the reason is all I mentioned above....

May 02, 2012
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yeah the shaking was a onetime deal(I know it probably angers the wine Gods). I was upset the first bottle seemed to have some of the contents 'stuck' at the bottom...maybe it was supposed to be that way. I have always heard porto has lots of sediment.

May 01, 2012
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well, I can guarantee you one thing: if someone has a very fancy, expensive wine that is over the hill, they are still going to drink it unless it is corked or Truely Bad. I have never seen proof to the contrary Zin that is why I am struggling on the learning of this issue. People drink wines over the hill all the time, and they probably woudln't admit they don't like it or even know if it is over the hill. There is a certain quality in drinking that century old liquid. As for your children, I wouldn't be surprised if they drank some cheap beer or wine as they age...it is the nature of the beast. I watched Titanic in the movie theatre with some 20/20, and it was a great time....found a nice woman at the bar after too.

the bottles are more for sentimental value...there are notes on them(like one has my daughter's full name and birthdate as an example and that we love her). However, I did hope they would be wines that aged, so I should've shown some patience on the purchases. They won't get them at 21(unless they married young), but when they do get them is yet to be determined....25, 30, when we pass, etc. They're sort of like the boxes of cigars that went stale after a year or two tops...they're more sentimental. I thought the cigarbox wine 14% twistoff was a good one for Lydia, as she will never smoke those cigars but it was a good match with the label and all and the hand harvesting. She'll cash in the savings bonds anyways....

My thing is this....there are so many bottles of wine out there that there is no way in all heck you can prove their storage was genuine the whole time. Of course they'll look the part or play the part, but c'mon let us be reasonable. Yes some can be proven. We had that 1975 porto one time...there was no sentiment. It looked like grapes or grape fossils formed on the bottom of the bottle. You could scrape the sentiment up if you wanted. The porto wasn't bad. That experience led me to shake my bottle up the next time...I wanted to experience the entire bottle. Yes, the stuff can have a strong unpleasant taste if you are not careful. ....so you got guyz and girlz drinking bottles after maturity that really have been over the hill for a long time due to the conditions they were stored in....much easier to clean the drains when its cheap just like it is easier to beat up a car as a teenager if you didn't buy it yourself.

Apr 30, 2012
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basically a lack of response means I was right, the wines will not officially "go bad" unless they are tainted and corked in some fashion with bacteria(whereas that would be when they Technically could be drinkable but never would be)...anything else is fair game

Apr 30, 2012
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yeah the wines we drank that were from a parent were much more sophisticated than those but I think I can attest to that many were old(I remember one guy had a case of miller light in his cabinet from the 70s....I know some of the girls drank boones and or purple haze which I guess isnt even really a wine LOL comes in like a 2liter bottle looking like grape soda. now when I bought the stuff on an occaision in college, I have to come clean and admit I drank wild irish rose and mad dog 20/20 on occaision.

....and we drank the open bottles first back then (before college) because we were scared of getting caught(I am willing to bet we drank some really good stuff)...sunshine was right on with budgetry restraints but also we took what we could get...sometimes the cork would break up and be in the wine. ok enough 'looking back' for me, it wasn't numerous times but it did happen often for about a year. I know beer is different but I remember one girl had two cases of busch & one case of milwaukees best under a porch in massachusetts where we grew up....they had been under the porch for (not exaggerating) 3 summers and three winters. I had no problem drinking them and I even used to defend the old canned foods I still had to my wife(that ended after the first baby) LOL. I am just trying to learn so appreciated the advice...I guess if they're sentimental I could hold onto them but maybe I could go with some vintage portos and maybe you could tell me which bordeaux to invest in(I would like maybe a champagne 07 for the wife and me and also every child gets his/her own type of wine but I need some that can age). everyone always says 99% of wines are made to drink in a year but I usually buy imports. I want to get the 07 08 and 2010. I already have my 1975 porto(pocas junior) for my birth year

Apr 29, 2012
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I would agree with that statement Sunshine, but Zin said something to the effect that it would be extremely hard to taste them let alone smell them. Some of those wines were very old, not good wines, and they weren't stored properly(stood up on trays near windows and so-on) & they were extremely edible.

Apr 29, 2012
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OK thank you. amazingly though...I thought that wine becoming vinegar or smelling like sewage(where obviously a drop won't even get in your mouth as you referred to above) meant air got to it or the cork was tainted? I didn't think this rotten smell and spoilage could happen to an unopened bottle unless you literally Abused the temp levels?? I guess what I had been getting at to answer your first question in the last post by you Zin, I thought the wine would be bland, maybe have a taste that is undesirable but in actuality if a homeless bum drank it or a 16yr old kid that him and his friends don't have many options, that the wine would not be that bad?? I have never had a Bad wine or truely spoiled wine(but probably have drank bad wine). Dang I used to drink wines that had been opened and corked for a long while(sorry, going back to teen years again with friends). I have heard...and believe...that one knows when they have a bad wine(the rotten sewage smell that would lead you not to put it in your mouth), but I thought this meant air got in or the bottle was tainted or corked? I thought if I drank the bottle in 20yrs it would be 'not the way it was supposed to happen' but life would go on?? PS - the bottles are in a place where they will be hardly touched and they are in the paper bag. Every once in a long while someone might hold and look at it. They are in a closet too...no sunlight but there is a closet light. The temp all season would be 70something....probably different temp summer and winter. whatever it is in the house during the summer, it will be less in the closest same benefit during winter season I guess. PPS- www.cigarbox.com or maybe it is www.cigarboxes.com

Apr 28, 2012
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Suggestions for slightly sweet red wine?

I've always liked the sweet wines myself, but dry is ok too. I usually go with dry champagnes as an example, but for me - sherries and ports sweet- are the way to go. Tokaji is a great wine from Hungary for any sweet drinkers looking to try something different...and obviously heiswine from germany too. If I am not mistaken, Tokaji ranks up there with one of the "older" wines out there with an extensive history such as Chianti from Italy.

Apr 28, 2012
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Shelf life of Port and Sherry

I have heard that too....better with age but 'on the way out' pretty much after opening

Apr 28, 2012
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ok thanx. I will look for producer not sure where that wold be....now if it is due to drink 5 yr anniversary which is july but we waited to 10 or 15 yrs as an example, what is worst that can happen? zin, i am not trying to be repetitive or pushy....I just am really curious how the wines would be that are old. I remember as teenagers 20 yrs ago we used to drink bottle from our parents' homes(we took turns). some were rather old but they always seemed ok...am I making sense. I am not trying to go against the norm of aging but if you 'found' a bottle from 92 that shouldve been drank in 97, would you dump it or drink it? if I have to buy new bottles I will, but I do want at least the kids will be able to drink them even if they aren't the best.....if not drinkable then they need to go

Apr 28, 2012
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I was under belief also that oak does prolong a wine's age, but I was unsure if that was true. Actually when I heard tat a few weeks ago I could've sworn they were talking about malbec

Apr 27, 2012
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lastly, even if they might not age past a certain point, if the wine isn't bad and it doesn't go bad, and it isn't stored imporoperly(not perfect temps but good enough), can these realistically be drank whenever the heck the bottles happen to be cracked open whether sooner than laster or much later than sooner?

Apr 27, 2012
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