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The Great Wonton soup quest (trying to find east coast style wonton soup in SF)

I know, I was just joking around - thanks for the tips tho.

The Great Wonton soup quest (trying to find east coast style wonton soup in SF)

I'll have to try Tai Chi - sounds promising. I dunno what you're talking about with this "order no MSG" business - MSG may be bad for you, but it is undeniably delicious!

The Great Wonton soup quest (trying to find east coast style wonton soup in SF)

Since I posted this, a new restaurant opened up on Haight and fillmore called Wonderland chinese. Their wontons are pretty much exactly what I wanted to find back when this original post went up...super meaty chicken broth, thick noodled wontons with pork inside etc. The dish comes with all kinds of extra things like shrimp and a big thing of cabbage thrown in there, but you can just order it without any of that. The only thing missing at this point to simulate the old school greasy hangover chinese places on the east coast are the endless supply of fried wonton chips at the table and the shredded pork things floating at the bottom of the bowl. honestly though, I can live without those - as this soup hits the mark pretty much dead on otherwise.

http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/wonder...

The Great Wonton soup quest (trying to find east coast style wonton soup in SF)

Just wanted to follow up on my post about the order I tried from King Wonton and Noodle last night. I decided to try that place before I had gotten responses from anyone on this thread because it was close and the yelp reviews boasted flavorful broth and had pictures that looked closer to what I'm seeking. The broth there was indeed a lot richer than most of what I've had elsewhere around town- but it had a ton of shrimpy flavor which become more and more apparent as the bowl cooled down. The wontons were interesting, but they had the same thin wrappers and whole uncut pieces of shrimp in them. I am not a person who hates shrimp, but that flavor doesn't really jive with the heavier greasy meat flavors in a chicken or pork based broth. My girlfriend didn't finish her bowl so we saved about half of it in the fridge, and now the bowl just plain reeks of fish sauce odor-The taste is almost entirely shrimpy when the soup is cold, which is weird since I would have said that it was much less prevalent when the soup was hot- This is obviously not a big deal since I will be planning to eat soup hot, but it indicates to me that there really was a lot more shrimp flavor to the stock than I had originally detected when it was warm. The dumplings in the wonton and dumpling soup had an odd texture due to being composed of about 50% mushroom stuffing (as far as I could tell) but otherwise they tasted like they were stuffed with the same meat as the wontons, and had the same thickness in the wrapper as well. Overall this experience has given me another criteria to look for when trying to find the east coast style wonton soup- and that is little to no shrimp. I am sure that this is just my immature american palette throwing a hissy fit, but I think I am looking for my surf and my turf to be in separate dishes for the most part.
I will definitely try out Tea Garden and Turtle Tower- both sound like great options- do you know if the tea Garden soup has those kind of thick Yee Wonton (?) style dumplings or is it more standard? Sorry to be so picky but the girlfriend was really turned off by the shrimpiness of the King Wonton order, and by now I am primarily driven by my own craving for that old east coast style flavor (especially because she has nearly lost all faith in my Quixotic Wonton quest).

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Turtle Tower Restaurant
631 Larkin St, San Francisco, CA 94109

Tea Garden
515 Mission St, San Francisco, CA 94105

The Great Wonton soup quest (trying to find east coast style wonton soup in SF)

Thanks for the tip man, I just ordered a dumping and wonton soup and a standard wonton from King wonton and noodle on Irving and 10th based on yelp reviews- Im about to ride over there and pick it up. Its probably not what I'm looking for but I will get let everyone know how that place's stuff stacks up to my expectations.
The supreme broth sounds like it would be dead on, the main problem with a lot of the soup out here is the broth being too weak. thanks again for the tip, I'm gonna try that place as soon as I get the chance.

The Great Wonton soup quest (trying to find east coast style wonton soup in SF)

I will preface this call fro help with the acknowledgement that I understand that it is difficult or impossible to find east coast style anything in SF as far as chinese food goes. I have come across countless threads during my search for Wonton soup of people craving an entire east coast style menu, or a specific item like egg rolls, but none that are looking for wontons in particular. I also realize that the gourmand would consider east coast style chinese to be a greasy perversion of the real thing, and that many people would prefer the more subtle flavor of the food available in the west. Let me describe what I have been looking for, and see if anyone else here can clue me in on something approaching what I am searching for. In New York and many other places that I have lived on the east coast, there is about a 75% chance that a restaurant will be likely to serve up a wonton soup that has golden colored rich chicken/pork flavored broth with a few green onions and a bunch of tiny strips of bbq pork floating freely in the bowl. The wontons themselves in this style of soup are made with a much thicker noodle that retains its folded shape in the broth. Here are a few pictures of what I am talking about http://www.kingwokchinese.com/images/... http://farm1.static.flickr.com/223/52... . Out here, I always tend to get a soup with a silvery colored weaker broth that has huge chunks of cabbage and other veggies floating freely, and wontons that may have a larger meat content with a much more shrimpy seafood flavor overall and a wrapper that is super thin with a kind of ghost shape where the meat is pinched over the top with the wrapper, leaving the excess wrapper as a kind of tail that trails downwards off the main meat ball. I am sure that this style of soup can be prepared in a way that really brings out the subtle flavor of the combination of shrimp and chicken/pork- and that such a dish would be considered better in a taste test administered by experts or food critics. The problem is, most of the takeout type places that serve this style of soup seem to have a tough time of packing enough flavor into this type of dish to prevent the broth from tasting like thin dishwater, and from having the flavor of the cabbage predominate. The east coast style of meatier wonton soup with a strong chicken flavored broth is probably harder to screw up, because I am hard pressed to remember a time that I ordered this style of soup and was especially disappointed with the flavor. The thing is, my girlfriend and I always used to order wonton soup on the east coast while either of us was feeling a bit under the weather, and it was really a satisfying type of comfort food that would make us feel way better after we ate it. My girlfriend is currently sick with strep throat, and even though I had previously given up my quest for the east coast wonton- I want to try and locate something close to that so that I can bring it to her and heal her up with it. To reiterate, the most important thing I am looking for is a strong flavorful chicken based broth, and the thick skinned wonton noodles with the kind of flower face shape that comes from folding the wonton would be a great visual confirmation that we are on the right track. If anyone can identify the actual name of this style of wonton it would be a big help in searching for that. I have seen some references to Yee wonton soup, where the wontons are fried beforehand, but my research is inconclusive as to whether or not this is actually what I should be looking for. Any help would be greatly appreciated, especially if you can get it to me soon so that the GF won't be recovered by the time I can locate that magic soup.