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Dolin Véritable Génépy (Génépi) Des Alpes Liqueur

Haven't tried it - I found this thread because I'd never heard of genepi before. But it caught my eye and liked your description of "off-dry 'weird' Martini".

Jun 27, 2014
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Dolin Véritable Génépy (Génépi) Des Alpes Liqueur

http://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/summ...

Very similar - they up the Dolin and Genepi to 3/4 oz. and no bitters.

Jun 27, 2014
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What bourbon are you drinking these days?

I definitely think that I fall into the "generally don't like Brown Foreman" camp. And I think part of the let down for me was the massively expressive and delicious nose. I'm going to come back to the bottle in a little while, when the air inside has co-mingled some more. Maybe my opinion will improve...

Oct 26, 2013
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What bourbon are you drinking these days?

My opinion started off where JMF was, and ended where sku did. The more I drank, the less I liked it. The nose on this is phenomenal, but drinking it slowly devolves into wet band-aids.

Oct 26, 2013
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What bourbon are you drinking these days?

Danny -

1) OFBB hit the shelves in VA ABC stores in the past ~2 weeks.

2) there are places that will ship to VA. they are few, but they exist. problem is, you won't get anything limited/special from them.

Oct 25, 2013
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Four Roses Small Batch Limited Edition

My only information to share is that it's delicious, and (my opinion) even better than last year's release. I found it deeper and more assertive (in a good way), whereas last year was more floral and delicate.

Oct 22, 2013
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What bourbon are you drinking these days?

Yeah, then you can sell me the Hirsch for $199. =)

Sep 25, 2013
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What bourbon are you drinking these days?

I read on another message board of a guy who recently found 2 in the wild, in Texas, for $199 each. Meanwhile, Hitimewine is selling the humidor set for $1199.

JMF, are you keeping your last bottle?

Sep 25, 2013
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What makes a cocktail a classic?

He only reads it for the articles.

Aug 28, 2013
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Templeton Rye

Here is LDI's 95% rye recipe:

http://www.mgpingredients.com/product...

Their full offering is here:

http://www.mgpingredients.com/product...

The don't do custom recipes, that I can tell. They distill a base spirit according to one of those recipes listed. The NDP then does any further adulteration and aging.

Dickel is an LDI rye too. Is that your cheapest LDI option in Iowa?

Aug 17, 2013
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Templeton Rye

I think Templeton and Bulleit are both excellent. Just an FYI - the place that ships me Bulleit for $19.99 also ships to Iowa. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post the details...

So I pulled out my bottle of Templeton last night, and here's the giveaway for me. It says "Produced and Bottled by Templeton Rye Spirits LLC" - nothing about where or by whom it was distilled. A quick survey of other bottles gives me a good idea that folks who distill their own product make a point to mention it. Folks who don't use works like "produced" which can mean a lot of things - they blend it with other product, do some creative aging process (rum or sherry casks), or cut down the proof (Templeton is 80, Bulleit is 90).

The marketing lore that Templeton spins may be some truth, maybe be complete fiction.

"Our master distillers utilize the original Kerkhoff family recipe" - but we won't reveal that recipe, because it might match LDI/MGP's exact recipe too.

"While we grow some rye grain locally, we source from the united states, canada and europe to ensure we’re using only the finest ingredients." It just so happens that's where LDI/MGP sources their grain from too. And isn't Iowa corn country? How much rye is actually grown - and how would we ever know if said rye makes it into the mash?

See where I'm headed with this?

Aug 17, 2013
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Templeton Rye

Good luck with a lawsuit. The modern whiskey market is rife with marketing misdirection. I guarantee that every byte of information they put out has been cleared by the lawyers.

Templeton offers distillery tours. I'd be interested to know how they pitch their process. I recently toured A. Smith Bowman's distillery, where they basically re-distill and barrel juice from BT/Sazerac. The tour guide was great at parroting the "we're a micro-distiller" line, but the lack of grain mill and mash tank were dead give-aways that they're starting with someone else's juice..

For a good breakdown of NDPs (non-distiller producers), look here:

http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2013...

You'll note that Templeton in particular gets called out for not being forthcoming.

More great discussion here:

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums...

Aug 16, 2013
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Templeton Rye

Once upon a time, Templeton distilled their rye in Iowa according to their own recipe. That's not what they're selling now. What goes out today comes from LDI/MGP, and is from the same stock as Bulleit - the LDI 95% rye mash bill. It's only bottled in Iowa. There may differences from aging time or blending, but the stock is the same.

All that said, I've enjoyed all of the different riffs on the LDI 95% recipe (Templeton, Bulleit, High West, James E. Pepper, Smooth Ambler, Dickel). They're all just a little bit different, but with a familiar tone.

Aug 16, 2013
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Templeton Rye

Only if you can't find Bulleit rye either. I found them to be very similar. They are both sourced from the same distillery. I have found a source selling Bulleit for half of what I can find Templeton for, so the math is a no-brainer for me.

Aug 16, 2013
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Best Cocktail by the Pitcher?

I present to you, Jeffrey Morgenthaler's Gallon of Margaritas

http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/20...

6 cups tequila (you’ll need to buy two fifths for this
)2½ cups triple sec (just buy one fifth, please)
2½ cups fresh lime juice
2½ cups fresh lemon juice
2 cups simple syrup

Mix ingredients together in gallon container. Don’t forget to refrigerate! When ready to serve, pour mixture into a 16-ounce glass filled with ice. Salted rim is optional.

Makes 21 margaritas.

Aug 16, 2013
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Triple Sec Blind taste-off, Round 2: DeKuyper vs. Citronge vs. Gran Gala

To take this further off-topic, another great "upgrade" to a Cosmo is to sub cranberry liqueur (I like Leopold Bros) for the cranberry juice.

Aug 16, 2013
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Triple Sec Blind taste-off, Round 2: DeKuyper vs. Citronge vs. Gran Gala

I believe it was here that I read that Patron Citronage is the same as the Mexican liqueur Controy, which explains why it works so well in a margarita. I've found Citronage's one and only good use in margaritas. For all other uses I go to Cointreau or Gran Gala (as a Grand Marnier sub).

Aug 14, 2013
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Any good cocktails I can make with Glen Moray scotch?

I've never understood the somewhat competing notions of "don't waste it in mixed drinks" versus "don't go cheap on your mixed drink ingredients" as in, the better the products going in, the better the cocktail coming out.

If the OP isn't going to drink it straight, or give it away to internet message board friends, won't it be wasted in the back of his liquor cabinet? Plus, he got it for free, so where is the waste?

Jul 30, 2013
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Any good cocktails I can make with Glen Moray scotch?

The only Scotch-based cocktail that I really enjoy is the Blood and Sand:

1 oz Scotch
3⁄4 oz Sweet vermouth
3⁄4 oz Cherry Liqueur, Cherry Heering
1 oz Orange juice
1 ds Orange bitters (optional)
1 twst Orange peel (optional, expressed)

Instructions
Shake, strain, straight up, cocktail. Optional bitters and expressed orange twist garnish.

http://www.kindredcocktails.com/cockt...

Jul 30, 2013
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Hansen's Tonic Water

A couple of options to consider - you can buy Fever Tree sample packs online, as well as tonic water samplers. KegWorks will even sell bottles individually, but you'll pay more in shipping than you do the bottle.

If you commit to drinking Fever Tree, the best option is cases of 24 bottles from Amazon, which amount to $1.50 per bottle. I have Amazon Prime, thus shipping is free, so it's by far the best deal going.

(sorry to hijack the Hansen's thread with my Fever Tree infomercial)

Jul 24, 2013
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Hansen's Tonic Water

If you liked the Mediterranean in your G&T, I think you'll love the Indian which was made for gin. Fever Tree has spoiled me with respect to store-bought tonics.

Jul 24, 2013
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What can I do with Art in the Age's "Root" liquor?

I had as a sub for the rye in a Trinidad Sour and enjoyed it more than expected.

Jul 18, 2013
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Ginger Syrup

Yes, Bulleit has a high rye mash bill for a bourbon. I hate to break it to you though - their bourbon uses Four Roses's 35% mash bill. Four Roses has a couple of different mash bills, but all are higher in rye content than the standard bourbon. Maybe you do like a touch of rye after all!

Rittenhouse tends to be fantastic when mixed, but much less so taken neat.

I think if you use Bulleit (or the Makers, which I wouldn't consider overkill) nad JMF's method for slow heating your ginger syrup, you'll have a fine cocktail.

Jun 19, 2013
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Ginger Syrup

I wonder how some ginger liqueur would work in place of the syrup. I'm always trying to find ways to bust out that gorgeous Domaine de Canton bottle.

Bulleit is a high rye bourbon, so you could run the risk of having too much bite with it and the raw ginger syrup. Maybe one or the other?

The One-Eyed Gypsy menu lists a cocktail simply called Bourbon:

"a celebration of makers mark, strawberries, simple, and fresh lemon over a bed of shaved ice"

So, if it's the same recipe as the one from Imbibe, they're going with a wheater bourbon. In that case, I'd be tempted to use a Weller - likely OWA 107, since the recipe doesn't have too much booze.

Jun 18, 2013
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Scotch along 95

For the selection and price, it may be worth the going the long way. Not sure how the gas/booze savings breakdown shakes out.

I'm tempted to pull off next week on my trip up to Cape Cod. That's easily better selection and pricing than I can find down there. Plus, there's a Dunkin' Donuts next door, so the kids won't complain about waiting while I shop.

Jun 18, 2013
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Scotch along 95

I can promise you this, do NOT stop in Virginia. We have neither a great selection nor a great prices in our state run stores. I can second the nod for Montgomery County, MD for great prices. I usually do some shopping there myself when heading north.

Jun 18, 2013
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Best Grenadine?

Mine is 1:1 with a splash of orange flower water, then it gets a shot of Everclear. All this is without heat - just shaken up in a mason jar. Morgenthaler's use of pomegranate molasses is intriguing...

Jun 03, 2013
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A new addition to my infused vodkas!

I did too. Except I ended up quick-pickling the beets and drinking a gin & tonic instead.

Jun 02, 2013
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4th of July red, white, & blue daiquiris?

Here, try these. All three colors in one:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/fo...

May 29, 2013
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Commerce corner

I can't get K&L to ship me wine or spirits in VA. I had to get wine order shipped to me on vacation in NC once, because they had something no one else did. Likewise, I have no problem with folks like Hi-Time; they just shipped out a spirits order to me last night.

Apr 12, 2013
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