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Chinese restaurant trends 2014

I'm very interested to hear about trends in Cantonese and other regional restaurants!

For Cantonese, I'd look into something if we could generate some interesting questions. It's a mess to look through though-- there's a ton of places, and many have several printed menus, some only in Chinese.

I tried looking at info about other regional styles but there are so few in each category that it's difficult to talk about trends versus existence.

Chinese restaurant trends 2014

The Regional Chinese restaurant list began earlier this year, and each edition deletes places that have closed. The list is intended to be a way to navigate food choices currently available to us.

This post is about historical and contemporary trends so I'm including restaurants that have closed (e.g., little-sichuan-express-fremont, 2006-2009)

Helping a sweet tooth discover the Bay Area... (Oakland/ Berkeley/ SF)

Pomme d'amour at Knead Patisserie in the Mission (call them for their hours)

Where is she from and is there a style of dessert she or you are jonesing for? I ask because this thread has tons of excellent choices, but ranges from the cutting edge to the more traditional.

Chinese restaurant trends 2014

To clarify, the automization only gets open and closing dates--- it was fed the names of restaurants I manually obtained for the Regional Chinese list by searching for things such as Sichuan, Szechuan, regional chinese, "authentic Chinese," mapo doufu, etc.

Chinese restaurant trends 2014

Absolutely--- the graph is only about the past 8 years and I see it more as a starting point for collecting future data than something that speaks for itself. In terms of why these trends are occurring... for all we know, a Shanghainese family owning 4 restaurants moved to Cleveland in 2014.

See my response to Robert L. above for methodology. The content of Yelp reviews, addresses, and hours might not be reliable, but it's rare for a restaurant to not appear on yelp shortly after it opens.

Awesome--- I don't want to clutter this thread with the names of closed restaurants, but if you have a chance, could you please e-mail the name of the closed places so I can add them to this list in 2015? hyperbowler123@gmail.com Thanks.

Chinese restaurant trends 2014

I identified restaurant names earlier this year when I scoured the Chowhound archives for the Regional list, and also by searching for closed restaurants on yelp.

In terms of the dates themselves, I've got a script that monitors for Regional Chinese restaurant closings on yelp, and added a line to grab when yelp learned about the restaurant and the year it was last known to be open. A few entries were modified (e.g., Mandarin Gourmet didn't launch their Sichuan menu until 2012).

Say what you want about the accuracy of their reviews, but yelp does a good job at documenting when places open and close, and it's been a good phone book since 2007.

(name, year opened, last known year open, closed?)
ancient-szechuan-el-cerrito, 2009, 2014,
cbi-kitchen-milpitas-2, 2014, 2014,
chef-ma-san-jose-4, 2013, 2014, closed
chef-zhao-bistro-mountain-view, 2012, 2014,
chengdu-style-restaurant-berkeley, 2014, 2014,
chili-garden-restaurant-milpitas, 2007, 2014,
chili-house-san-francisco-2, 2012, 2014,
chili-palace-milpitas, 2008, 2014,
chili-pot-cupertino-2, 2014, 2014,
china-lounge-restaurant-and-bar-pleasanton, 2014, 2014,
china-village-restaurant-albany-2, 2005, 2014,
classic-sichuan-millbrae, 2007, 2012, closed
da-sichuan-bistro-palo-alto, 2010, 2014,
dong-bei-mama-san-francisco, 2011, 2014,
dragon-garden-cupertino, 2014, 2014,
fey-restaurant-menlo-park, 2013, 2014,
grand-hot-pot-lounge-san-francisco, 2013, 2014,
great-szechuan-richmond, 2007, 2013, closed
happy-noodles-san-mateo, 2012, 2013,
happy-sichuan-restaurant-millbrae, 2014, 2014,
house-of-sichuan-cupertino, 2005, 2010, closed
i-restaurant-cupertino, 2008, 2011, closed
little-sichuan-express-fremont, 2006, 2009, closed
little-sichuan-restaurant-newark, 2008, 2014,
little-sichuan-restaurant-san-mateo, 2005, 2014,
little-szechuan-san-francisco, 2013, 2014,
mama-jis-san-francisco-2, 2013, 2014,
mandarin-garden-restaurant-berkeley, 2006, 2014,
mandarin-gourmet-palo-alto, 2012, 2014, closed
newark-cafe-newark, 2012, 2014,
pepper-bros-newark, 2013, 2014,
red-hot-wok-cupertino, 2012, 2014,
sichuan-chili-san-jose, 2014, 2014,
sichuan-chong-qing-cuisine-san-mateo, 2013, 2014,
sichuan-delight-redwood-city-2, 2005, 2013, closed
sichuan-fortune-house-pleasant-hill, 2007, 2014,
sichuan-fusion-richmond, 2009, 2014,
sichuan-home-san-francisco, 2011, 2014,
sichuan-house-walnut-creek, 2012, 2014,
sichuan-table-san-francisco-2, 2014, 2014,
south-legend-sichuan-restaurant-milpitas, 2005, 2014,
spices-3-oakland 2006, 2006, 2014,
spices-fremont-fremont 2014, 2014, 2014,
spices-ii-san-francisco 2005, 2005, 2014,
spices-restaurant-and-bar-foster-city, 2009, 2014, closed
spices-san-francisco-2 2005, 2005, 2014,
spicy queen (not on yelp yet), 2014, 2014,
spicy-empire-san-mateo, 2010, 2014,
spicy-garden-restaurant-san-francisco, 2013, 2014,
spicy-king-san-francisco, 2013, 2014,
spicy-legend-san-francisco-2, 2014, 2014
spicy-town-fremont, 2007, 2014,
su-gia-restaurant-newark, 2005, 2009, closed
szechuan-garden-restaurant-oakland, 2006, 2010, closed
szechuan-home-cupertino, 2007, 2013, closed
the-pot-sticker-san-francisco, 2005, 2014, closed
trend-restaurant-mountain-view, 2008, 2013, closed
yi-yuan-szechuan-restaurant-millbrae, 2012, 2014,
yiping-restaurant-san-ramon, 2011, 2014,
zone-88-newark, 2007, 2007, closed
zone-88-restaurant-san-francisco, 2006, 2008, closed
z-and-y-restaurant-san-francisco-3, 2005, 2014

(name, year opened, last known year open, closed?)
bamboo-garden-mountain-view-2, 2010, 2014,
bund-shanghai-san-francisco, 2009, 2014,
dragon-2000-restaurant-walnut-creek 2006, 2014,
dumpling-kitchen-san-francisco, 2010, 2014,
fey-restaurant-menlo-park, 2013, 2014,
fortune-kitchen-fremont, 2013, 2014.00,
happy-cafe-restaurant-san-mateo, 2005, 2014,
hua-yang-shanghai-restaurant-fremont, 2010, 2013, closed
jai-yun-san-francisco-2, 2008, 2014,
lilys-house-restaurant-lafayette-2, 2007, 2014,
little-potato-union-city, 2006, 2011, closed
little-shanghai-restaurant-san-mateo, 2007, 2014,
lulus-kitchen-concord, 2013, 2014,
melin-house-milpitas, 2014, 2014,
north-china-san-francisco, 2012, 2014,
old-shanghai-san-francisco-2, 2012, 2014,
panda-dumpling-redwood-city 2012, 2014.00,
panda-dumpling-san-carlos, 2011, 2014,
rice-valley-shanghai-bistro-san-francisco, 2013, 2014,
sha-bistro-union-city, 2013, 2014,
shanghai-1930-san-francisco, 2005, 2011, closed
shanghai-bistro-millbrae-2, 2010, 2014, closed
shanghai-classic-san-jose-2, 2005, 2008, closed
shanghai-club-restaurant-and-lounge-burlingame-2, 2010, 2013, closed
shanghai-delight-milpitas, 2006, 2014,
shanghai-dim-sum-cupertino, 2009, 2014,
shanghai-ding-sheng-restaurant-milpitas, 2006, 2014,
shanghai-dumpling-cupertino-2, 2012, 2014,
shanghai-dumpling-king-san-francisco-3, 2013, 2014,
shanghai-dumpling-shop-millbrae, 2005, 2014,
shanghai-dumplings-saratoga, 2008, 2013, closed
shanghai-east-restaurant-san-mateo, 2005, 2011, closed
shanghai-family-restaurant-mountain-view, 2007, 2013, closed
shanghai-flavor-fremont, 2013, 2014,
shanghai-flavor-shop-sunnyvale, 2006, 2014,
shanghai-garden-cupertino, 2011, 2014,
shanghai-gourmet-restaurant-fremont, 2007, 2007, closed
shanghai-gourmet-richmond, 2005, 2006, closed
shanghai-gourmet-walnut-creek-2, 2006, 2014,
shanghai-house-san-francisco, 2006, 2014,
shanghai-ming-zhu-san-francisco, 2009, 2010, closed
shanghai-noodles-san-francisco, 2005, 2009, closed
shanghai-palace-mountain-view, 2005, 2009, closed
shanghai-restaurant-berkeley, 2006, 2008, closed
shanghai-restaurant-cupertino, 2010, 2014,
shanghai-restaurant-milpitas, 2005, 2014, closed
shanghai-restaurant-oakland, 2005, 2014,
shanghai-san-francisco, 2012, 2013, closed
shanghai-taste-delight-mountain-view, 2005, 2009, closed
shanghai-town-san-bruno, 2005, 2007, closed
shanghai-wang-restaurant-oakland, 2008, 2008, closed
shanghai-winter-garden-millbrae-2, 2011, 2013, closed
sunny-shanghai-restaurant-san-bruno, 2007, 2012, closed
xiao-long-bao-kitchen-south-san-francisco, 2010, 2014,

Chinese restaurant trends 2014

Thanks! I've changed the graph so it no longer reads as a "gee whiz graph"

Chinese restaurant trends 2014

There's been some documentation of styles of Chinese cuisine that are finally making an appearance in this thread, http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/990749 . I wanted to discuss other, or longer brewing trends, here.

Besides specific restaurants, are there new trends or dishes in the Dim Sum world? Any new dishes becoming standards across Chinese American restaurants? Any dishes disappearing?

Something that should come as no surprise is that Sichuan food is all over the place, both in terms of new restaurants and the expansion of Sichuan offerings in non-Sichuan restaurants. Just how popular? I scoured old threads earlier this year for discussions of Sichuan places and cross referenced them with y*lp data to see which places existed in which years.

Dumpling Express - Berkeley

According to someone who works there, the owner also owns two places in or near San Francisco.


Dumpling Express - Berkeley

According to the woman who works the front counter,

Bay Area Burmese Restaurant Roundup 2.0

Great list--- I had no idea there were so many!

One more:

Best of Burma
146 E 3rd Ave
San Mateo, CA 94401
(650) 259-9339

Regional Chinese roundup 2.0

Thanks-- it looks like Spicy Queen replaced Shabu Sushi.

The photos in their window include the same stock photos they used at the Pot Sticker et al.

NEW: Chino in the Mission, SF - Menu has XLB & open daily until 1AM, any reports yet?

On a Friday night, they got really crowded by 9, but we got seated immediately at 8. There were some misses, but I liked the meal enough to return again. They do take out for everything but the XLB.

Yuba salad : yuba, from Hodo Soy, was oddly leathery

Chicken wings: delicious--- crunchy, sweet, sour, salty, and spicy.

XLB (xiao long bao) : broth was right, but the meat was a bit underdone and the inside of the skin was gluey-- these were just like the ones from the dumpling chef's previous stint at short lived Shanghai in the Castro. But you won't find better XLB within a three mile radius so the 6 for $10 will make due.

Korean rice cakes : the texture was off this time. Last time, there was a thin crunch, followed by a taffy-like chew. This time, the entire peanut shaped rice cakes had a waxy, microwaved pizza kind of feel

Wok roasted cauliflower : excellent. With chilies and lime, they hit some of the same spicy and acidic notes as Pizzeria Delfina's more Italian-style spicy cauliflower

Lamb noodles : I liked these this soup-less dish a lot. The spicing on the braised lamb was light enough to complement the strands of meat, but not so assertive as to compete with the meat's flavor. It's served on top of chewy noodles (presumably machine made off site).

Posole - SFBA Dish of the Month April 2014

The birria had deep, roasty flavors from the chilies. The soup, while not gritty, was thick from the ground chilies too.

Regional Chinese roundup 2.0

Forgot to include:
Muslim Eastern House (Muslim Chinese, Fremont)

Shanghai Winter Garden (Shanghainese, Millbrae) closed since 2013 (oops)
Mandarin Gourmet (Sichuan, Palo Alto) closed

And onto trends...

Shaanxi restaurants doubled in 2014
Sichuan restaurants had a net increase of about 20% in 2014, even more if you count Hunan places, which themselves almost doubled

The bad news is that Shanghai restaurants are on the decline. In 2012, there was one net opening. In 2013, there were as many Shanghainese openings and closings (net of 0). In 2014, there was a net of 4 (maybe 5) fewer Shanghainese places (~13% decrease):

Joy Palace (Taiwanese, Cupertino) replaces Shanghai Dim Sum (Cupertino) -1

Golden Swallow (Chinese American?) replaces Panda Dumpling (Shanghai, Redwood City) -1

Happy Sichuan Restaurant (Sichuan, Millbrae) replaces Shanghai Bistro -1

"I-Formosa", presumably Taiwanese) replaces Top Noodle (Milpitas, Shanghainese) -1

Melin House (Shanghai, Milpitas) replaces Shanghai Restaurant +0

Ruby KC House (Milpitas, cuisine style unknown) replaces Liou's House (Shanghai)

Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

Yeah, we seem to have a good sense of what is becoming more popular but I would love to see an analysis of what types of restaurants are disappearing. In the Chinese sphere, 2014 netted nine new Sichuan restaurants and lost four or five Shanghainese.

A Faster Chowhound: Pagination for Longer Threads

Slow loading has never been an issue for me, so thank you for allowing us to keep the option to "See all"!

Regional Chinese roundup 2.0

New openings and closings:
Joy Palace (Taiwanese, Cupertino) replaced Shanghai Dim Sum (Cupertino)
JX Cuisine (Sichuan, Santa Clara) replaced a pizza place
Michelle's Pancake House (Dongbei, Cupertino) has closed
Taiwan Restaurant (Berkeley) is up for lease

Ruby KC House (cuisine style unknown, Milpitas) replaced Liou's House
"I-Formosa", presumably Taiwanese) will soon replace Top Noodle ( Milpitas)
Spicy Queen (Sichuan (same owner as Pot Sticker), Inner Richmond) will soon replace Little Sweet Cafe

Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

Bourgeois banality in Rockridge? Thank goodness they have a Barney Burger, Crepevine, and a Pasta Pomodoro to keep things real.

Lers Ros Thai for vegetarians? [SF]

Pleasing meal on the whole. We ordered everything with a three out of four spice level:

Tom Yum Pak Soup was as sour and
spicy as promised, with plenty of oyster mushrooms to give the dish an umami boost.

Tofu larb salad : this feels naked without meat, but the tofu does act as a nice buffer between the sharp onions and the lime dressing.

Green curry was not overpowered with coconut milk, but the spicing was still too mellow and they were not generous with the Thai eggplant.

Lers Ros Thai for vegetarians? [SF]

Thanks! I'm lookin for dishes to share with vegetarians. I'll check out your link!

Lers Ros Thai for vegetarians? [SF]


Windy had a few comments on vegetarian dishes: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7953...

Anything else? I eat meat, so am looking more for something that's good on its own than a dumbed down meat dish. I'm eating dinner tonight at the Mission location:

2014 Top Ten Tastes

Two East Bay dishes almost made it into my top 10:

Sev Puri @ Juhu Beach Club
Cheese slice, pancetta, ricotta, and calabrian pepper slice @ Slicer Pizzeria http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9173...

Cozy & quiet near(ish) 7th and Brannan SF [San Francisco]

Dinosaurs has a new location at 18 Boardman Place. I've not been to this location, but they make good banh mi at the Castro location.


Posole - SFBA Dish of the Month April 2014

Thanks for the tip! Did you get the large or the small?

Unlike oniontears's posole, our order of the small posole came with soft tortillas (rather than tostadas) and no cabbage. The generous portion of pork was tender, with a custardy layer of fat. Fantastic. I made tacos using the meat and pickled onions from the salsa bar.

The small posole and the small birria was too much food for two people--- the birria was spicier, thicker, and had even more meat than the posole.

Are Korean Traditional red bean pastry ok to bring back to the states?

We had no problem bringing Gyeongju Bread (barley bread filled with red bean paste) and pancakes filled with red bean paste through US customs. Just be aware that the good stuff doesn't have a long shelf life... it molded after less than a week.

2014 Top Ten Tastes

Thanks for getting this going-- there's already lots posted that I want to try in 2015! These were new to me in 2014:

Breakfast sandwich @ Thistle Meats :

Cheese pupusa @ La Palma : Even better than the revueltas I wrote about here:

Roast beef, spicy buttermilk slaw, BBQ sauce, crispy shallots, arugula, russian dressing @ Pal's Takeaway

Sourdough, sauerkraut, pecorino & ricotta pancake @ State Bird Provisions

Pelmeni @ Katia's

Achiote flavored rice porridge with boquerones, pea greens, pork belly, quail eggs, and smoked pork @ Prubechu :

Lobster bomba @ AQ

Deep Fried Taro Ball and Spare Ribs or the Crispy Fried Eggplant or Pickled Ginger Salad @ Jai Yun :

Chinese bacon with preserved mustard greens @ Hakka restaurant

Xiao long bao @ Shanghai Dumpling (Cupertino):

Shandong House rebrands itself as Xi'an Gourmet [San Francisco]

Are they on vacation? Lights were off as I drove by last night and they aren't picking up the phone today

Cake recommendations?

Bump. Other ideas?

Yasukochi's Sweet Stop does a 50 person sheet cake for $105, and a 100 person sheet cake for $213

I forgot the quote I got from Stella Bakery for their Sacrapantina cake, but it came to over a dollar per slice more than the $4.50 a slice they charge at the shop!

Chowdown Report: Penang Garden (San Francisco Chinatown)

The taste of the sauce was totally different from the recipe I've made a few times (I can't speak to its authenticity) and the one I ate at Jumbo in Singapore. The preparation also didn't contain beaten eggs as far as I could tell.

Apparently Tyler Florence thought this was one of the best things he ever ate: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9059...