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SF/Napa Valley 4 Day Itinerary - Help Needed

Quince is great, it is definitely 'fine dining' and quite elegant. Next door is Cotogna, which is more casual and excellent food and wine (all wines $10/glass or $40/bottle), also wood fired pizza oven and rotisserie. Perbacco - also consider Barbacco, next door. Chez Papa - I think there is a new chef, went several months ago and it was ridiculously expensive and not worth it. Aziza, Dosa, Frances would also be great. Check out Loconda (the new place opened a few weeks ago by the Delfina owners), which is really in demand. One that is not on your list but highly creative is Atelier Crenn, worth checking out.

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Perbacco
230 California St, San Francisco, CA 94111

Delfina Restaurant
3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

Chez Papa
1401 18th St., San Francisco, CA 94107

Barbacco
230 California St, San Francisco, CA 94111

Cotogna
490 Pacific Ave, San Francisco, CA 94133

Atelier Crenn
3127 Fillmore St, San Francisco, CA 94123

May 15, 2011
ciao.izzy in San Francisco Bay Area

Yet another long SF/Napa itinerary for you to critique

Try Barbacco, it's also great Italian (I prefer it to Perbacco). Their ndjua (calabrian spreadable salami) is amazing. In Yountville after Vincent Arroyo (what a great guy and a lovely spot) try Redd's bar menu for fish tacos and skip dinner there - have the tacos, then get ready for dinner and have a later dinner. The bar menu is not at dinner though, maybe just from 2-5. Call to double check. Ad Hoc would be a good alternative, or Michael Chiarello's Bottega restaurant is beautiful and excellent.

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Perbacco
230 California St, San Francisco, CA 94111

Ad Hoc
6476 Washington St., Yountville, CA 94599

Bottega
6525 Washington Street Suite A9, Yountville, CA 94599

Barbacco
230 California St, San Francisco, CA 94111

May 15, 2011
ciao.izzy in San Francisco Bay Area

Toronto to SF (yes, I've done my research)

A few other ideas...Dosa (on Fillmore, or in the Mission) is great for Indian small plates and pretty creative. If you are looking for great fish tacos, when you are in Yountville for Ad Hoc or Bouchon, definitely go the bar menu at Redd (I think it's only 2 to 5pm, but call to find out) and get the fish tacos. It's the recipe from one of their kitchen staff's family and they are amazing. For a cheap lunchtime/happy hour option, try Pacific Catch (yes it is a chain but also fresh and unique tacos) Mon to Fri from 3 to 6pm there is special pricing and a good value gets even better. Also re: Nopa, you should check out Nopalita and see if you may like it as well.

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Ad Hoc
6476 Washington St., Yountville, CA 94599

Nopa
560 Divisadero St, San Francisco, CA 94117

Pacific Catch
1200 9th Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94122

Bouchon
6534 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 94599

May 15, 2011
ciao.izzy in San Francisco Bay Area

Chiaroscuro

I would NEVER, EVER go back. Went awhile after they opened and the pasta was awful and the salad inedible - and to top that, it was topped with 'ripe black olives' (yep, the kind from a can) instead of a kalamata or nicoise, or something with actual flavor. Where in Italian cooking would you find a 'ripe black olive'? Nowhere.

The decor was tacky, as well.

I went with an Italian friend, and we both agreed it was one of the most awful restaurants in the City. Cannot believe it's still there.

May 15, 2011
ciao.izzy in San Francisco Bay Area

Where's the best Thai food in Marin?

Have been to the Thai place in Sausalito (not too impressive), and the one in Strawberry (Thep Lela), about the same...looking for great Thai food in Marin (if it exists...) The archives also mention Royal Thai, and Orchard Thai?

Or, best to head to Lers Roos, or Citizen Thai, etc, in the City?

Thanks!

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Royal Thai Restaurant
610 3rd St, San Rafael, CA 94901

Mar 29, 2011
ciao.izzy in San Francisco Bay Area

Fabulous food in Sausalito????

Fish's "Saigon Salmon" sandwich (a banh mi) is terrific, and my toddler loves their 'fish sticks', too. Fish tacos great too.

Mar 29, 2011
ciao.izzy in San Francisco Bay Area

Cheese counters you love...

Cheese Plus at Polk x Pacific is terrific! I think it's 2001 Polk St, SF. Ray Bair owns it and went 'out on his own' after being a cheese buyer for Whole Foods. They also do espresso, and have other specialty foods (sausages, wine, crackers, oils, pasta, etc) and sandwiches.

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Cheese Plus
2001 Polk St, San Francisco, CA

Mar 29, 2011
ciao.izzy in San Francisco Bay Area

Looking for recipe: goat cheese stuffed artichoke; escargot with pernod/walnut sauce from L'Amour Dans Le Four (closed restaurant)

Thanks do you have any idea where he is working now or how to contact him? My next attempt to replicate it is today...artichokes steaming now :)

Mar 29, 2011
ciao.izzy in Home Cooking

1st and only visit to SF, looking to narrow down restaurant list

If you will be at the Market on Saturday, definitely worth a try is the amazing Belgian waffle at Blue Bottle Coffee (NB: not avail Sundays, only Mon-Sat). It's a "real" Belgian waffle like what you would get from a food truck in Brussels, with the carmelized exterior - but better since it's lighter and not as doughy, so not like a "Belgian waffle" that you would get at a breakfast place.

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Blue Bottle Cafe
66 Mint St, San Francisco, CA 94103

Mar 29, 2011
ciao.izzy in San Francisco Bay Area

Looking for recipe: goat cheese stuffed artichoke; escargot with pernod/walnut sauce from L'Amour Dans Le Four (closed restaurant)

Hi - does anyone have, or know how to get, the recipe for the "Artichaut Chaud" served at the long-closed L'Amour Dans Le Four restaurant (Lombard x Octavia/Gough), or their recipe for escargot with the garlic/butter sauce and Pernod and walnuts? Have been trying to recreate at home, and searched online, with no luck...ideas welcomed!

Both are great recipes for this time of year, spring-almost-here and artichokes in season!

I believe one of the owners who worked front of house was French, named Blaise. But have no idea who chef was, or any way of finding out...

Thanks!

Mar 29, 2011
ciao.izzy in Home Cooking