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Sushi similar to Asean Garden

I'll admit there had been a few "off-nights" with regards to Asian Garden's sushi, but not often often to turn me off (that's a pet-peeve with several other Montreal restaurants, Chalet BBQ being one, each visit is hit or miss, no consistency).

I'm open to trying something new.... any sushi restaurants you can recommend with Kamikaze and sticky rice nearly-identical to Asian Gardens? Their Kamikaze has a crunchy texture to it (type of tempura used?) and their sticky rice is well done on the outside, gooey in the inside and has a nice buttery-garlic taste.

[Note: This discussion was split from Opening/Closings January to March 2014 at http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/927323 -- The Chowhound Team]

Feb 24, 2014
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Opening/Closings January to March 2014

I think it's matter of opinion and taste. I've tried other sushi restaurants in and out of Montreal and none have approached Asian Gardens. As a matter of fact, everyone I know raves about Asian Gardens, it's just that good!

Might be worth trying those others in the area you recommend (I live nearby) but I'm not optimistic.

Feb 24, 2014
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Opening/Closings January to March 2014

Asian Gardens is, I should I say was, one of Montreal's top restaurants that made this city unique. Certainly my all time favorite for sushi, THE gold standard which I've judged all others.

My favorite was their Kamikaze sushi and sticky rice in a lotus leaf, I can't fathom that disappearing forever. I'm in shock they're permanently closing though it sounds more like a problem trying to operate in Montreal (over taxed and corrupt city) than an issue with popularity.

This is becoming a worrisome trend, I'm starting to lose track of how many favorite Montreal restaurants I've lost in the past several months. All that's left in NDG is Chalet BBQ....

Sad....just incredibly sad! I'm in shock. :(

Feb 23, 2014
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Jardin de Puits restaurant gone?

I just called this this afternoon (June 27th) and they're still not opened as of yet.

However, the person I spoke with seemed pretty confident they would be opened for business "next Tuesday", right after Canada Day.

Jun 27, 2013
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Restaurant Closings in 2013

CJAD reported they spoke with one of the staff over the phone, who in turn said it did not seem likely the restaurant will be reopening.

Probably best that way, I don't see a fourth incarnation saving the restaurant at this point.

Apr 17, 2013
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Jardin de Puits restaurant gone?

I have to admit, once I looked at where they are on a map not long after posting that, I felt the same way. They were already out of the way at the old location, this simply puts them out of reach.

At least I was told it will be the same staff and menu, but I'll certainly miss the atmosphere of the original restaurant. I mean, for close to 25 years THAT building, THAT place was Jardin de Puits to me.

I'll try and drop in at some point though...

Apr 17, 2013
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Jardin de Puits restaurant gone?

EXCELLENT NEWS!!

I just found out, moments ago after speaking with one of the owners, that Jardin de Puits is re-opening! :)

Apparently what happened was their lease had been revoked, with only 10 days notice. It forced them to temporarily close but thankfully, they've since found a new location.

Their new address is 2237 Fleury St (looks to be between Ahuntsic and Montreal north).

They will be opened for business in early May!

Apr 16, 2013
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Restaurant Closings in 2013

I'm unclear. Is this a permanent closing, or are they revamping again?

CTV News just mentioned they were "closing down once again". The video footage shot today shows the windows papered up with a sign saying "bientôt" (as in re-opening soon?). Anyone know what the situation is?

Wouldn't surprise me if this is the end. I predicted the restaurant would go under last year, as soon as I heard the Ramsey thing fell through.

Apr 16, 2013
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Restaurant Closings in 2013

Carmine's Tuscany Grill, on Cote-Saint-Luc road in CSL/NDG, has gone out of business and permanently closed.

Drove by tonight for a meal and was surprised to find the windows were covered with paper and graffiti sprayed on the outside of the building. A sign on the door says they are closed as of Feb 3, 2013 and thanked patrons for all their years of business. There goes another Montreal restaurant favorite. :(

There's another location on the South Shore, but as far as I know, that's the only one left!

Mar 01, 2013
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Restaurant Closings in 2012

Sadly, you can add 'Le Jardin de Puits' to the list of closed restaurants in 2012.

See here for the discussion thread:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/881804

Dec 31, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Jardin de Puits restaurant gone?

*Sigh*

The end of the world may not happen in 2012, but to me, I'll remember 2012 as the end of the culinary world! Seriously, Jardin de Puits was THE restaurant of all restaurants in my family.

We first discovered them in 1985, enjoyed the food and atmosphere immensely and then made it an annual tradition to visit each year to celerbrate birthdays. We must have gone close to 25 years straight without missing a beat (only the recent death of my father ended our tradition).

Loved their fillet minon wraped in bacon, their soups (vegetable, chicken/rice and lentil) and unique salad dressing. They also had great desserts, their made in house baklava and black forest cake for example. Admittedly the quality went down in the last decade or so but I still loved this restaurant!

It almost depresses me to think it's gone forever. Really sad news. I'll certainly never forget Jardin de Puits.

Dec 13, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Jardin de Puits restaurant gone?

I wouldn't jump the gun just YET, they may very well still be in business. It just gets me wondering (and worried) when a restaurant's phone line is disconnected...

We'll have to wait and see if someone here knows their status. Or someone in the Plateau Mont-Royal area wants to have a peek in and report back.

Dec 12, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Jardin de Puits restaurant gone?

Can someone confirm if the restaurant 'Le Jardin de Puits' has gone out of business, or just simply moved?

It's a small Greek restaurant that's been around since 1984 at 180 Villeneuve St east in Montreal. My family and I have been regulars since they opened, even making it an annual tradition to visit around this time of year for birthdays (the last couple of years unfortunately we could not make it).

I went to call recently and their phone line is disconnected (get a recording the # has been changed, and that new number connects to a de-activated cell phone--not a good sign). It would be sad if they've gone under....

Their website is still up, but hasn't been updated in several years:
http://www.lejardindepuits.com/

Dec 12, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Yangtze on Van Horne claimed by fire Sunday night

Rather big news regarding The Yangtze in this week's Suburban...

The owners have decided *NOT* to rebuild the original restaurant on Van Horne. Personally I see this as the final nail in the coffin for another Montreal landmark institution.

(see Mike Cohen's blog, June 12th)
http://blog.thesuburban.com/2012/06/y...

Jun 14, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

lol: gordon ramsay no more

Latest in this saga, Ramsay is now suing Laurier for $3 million:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/G...

I suspect Laurier may likely close its doors for good as a result. No great loss, the Laurier I knew died two decades ago.

Mar 21, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Yangtze on Van Horne claimed by fire Sunday night

No, it's still boarded up and completely gutted inside. Based on the extent of the damage I suspect any re-opening, if there is one, won't be happening overnight.

Furthermore, after eating at the NDG location myself and reading so many negative reviews on other Montreal sites, I'd be surprised if they're still in business by the end of the year. The food is so bad I wonder if they're not intentionally trying to fail. You know, so they can go under and walk away with the insurance money that would have been used to rebuild at Van Horne? Either that or they just think their clients are mindless sheep who'll eat anything and blindly pay through the roof. :)
Take your pick.

If they ARE rebuilding at Van Horne though, I'd be interested to know about it (or if they do ever bring back the original egg-rolls). I still crave the old Yangtze's food, sigh.

Mar 21, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Rumors abound about the sale of Schwartz's

I added a piece on Ben's Deli, including its decline, over at Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben%27s_...

I agree, Ben's really went downhill by the early to mid 90's. They were coasting off their fame and serving any old slop figuring tourists will come anyway (much like Laurier and the new Yangtze are doing now! The old Yangtze to its credit wasn't THAT bad before the fire and move, now it's just inedible).

Schwartz's isn't as good as it used to be. I remember eating a smoked meat sandwich there in '95 and it was *amazing*. Went back about a year ago (several times in fact) and found it's really dry and mediocre by comparison, but nonetheless, I wouldn't turn my nose up at a sandwich from there. It's just OK, not great. Different situation from Laurier and Yangtze--those I would not eat at if they were free (I kid you not).

Mar 08, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Laurier Gordon Ramsay

I think we'll just have to abandon this discussion thread and start a new one once more (just as "Rotisserie Laurier" was abandoned and people moved here to discuss the restaurant). I suggest the new topic be "Laurier 1936".

Feb 16, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Rumors abound about the sale of Schwartz's

When is the official sale supposed to take place, or at least an announcement of plans?

To be honest, when I first heard the news, I knew right away this had franchise written all over it. Undoubtedly Schwartz's is a highly profitable restaurant, but it would take DECADES to even break even on a $10 million dollar investment, let alone start making a cent of profit. Franchising on the other hand means return on the investment very short term. These guys will unfortunately do what's best for their own personal business and pocket books, not Montreal. Mark my words.

Funny to see three of Montreal's long-time landmark restaurants in peril all at once: Schwartz's, Laurier and Yangtze (or at the very least, losing what made them unique).

Feb 16, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

lol: gordon ramsay no more

FYI: The restaurant's name is now officially "Laurier 1936"

...I predict the next name will be "Laurier a Louer". ;)

Feb 16, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Laurier Gordon Ramsay

By tomorrow, every last trace of the Gordon Ramsay name will have vanished from the Montreal restaurant. Just checked GR's website in the UK, indeed Laurier has been removed (and as a result, Canada as one of his restaurant domains with it).

Incidentally, the new restaurant name is "Laurier 1936".

Personally, I think the GR name was all the restaurant had going for it. There is nothing else redeeming about it, and the classic Laurier BBQ is long gone. Expect the next name change to be.... Laurier - A Louer. :)

Feb 16, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

lol: gordon ramsay no more

My family and I were big fans of Laurier in the 70's and 80's. After decades of absence, I returned to re-try it last year, out of nostalgia. Absolutely horrible, to the point I swore never to go back. Still, I was curious what people thought of the food after the Ramsay revamp...apparently no better, and vastly overpriced too.

Can't imagine the restaurant is going to survive at this point, now that a bucket of cold water has been thrown directly on the source of the hype. It's no longer the classic Laurier BBQ, nor is it the glitzy and famed Laurier Gordon Ramsay. So what is it now? Just an overpriced and gimmicky restaurant which has lost its identity and way...

Feb 15, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Laurier Gordon Ramsay

BIG NEWS! (see Gazette article link below)
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/L...

Wow...so the whole 'Laurier Gordon Ramsay' honeymoon is over. In fact it's now a divorce!
Yep, as of today, the restaurant officially dropped its ties with Gordon Ramsay. The outdoor sign is in the process of being taken down, and by this Friday (Feb. 17th), all Ramsay name branding will be removed from the restaurants products and materials. At this moment even the website is down, claiming to be under re-construction.

Not sure what the restaurant name will be now. Will it revert back to Laurier BBQ or just simply be shortened to "Laurier"? I also wonder if the format or menu will stay the same.

More importantly, will it survive without all the hype of Ramsay that's been surrounding it the past six months. Personally, I have my doubts.

Feb 15, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Yangtze on Van Horne claimed by fire Sunday night

I've heard a lot of people complain about the original on Van Horne, but the food at this new restaurant is just inedible. Period. We left dishes half -full, we couldn't even finish what was served it was so bad. Never had that kind of experience at the old restaurant, even on off nights.

Funny you should mention Somerled Ave. I ordered Chinese take-out from Miranda on Somerled New Year's Eve. As mediocre as that was, at least it had taste and I could eat it. Never liked Miranda, but after the Yangtze, it was eating at a 4 star restaurant! :D

Jan 02, 2012
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Yangtze on Van Horne claimed by fire Sunday night

The interesting thing about that Suburban review, is within the entire piece, only one sentence (FIVE words!) discusses the actual food. "It was all very delicious". Rather an ambiguous blanket statement, wouldn't you say?

I know he's biased, as I added a comment a week ago saying I was disappointed, and it was not published.

Also interesting are the photos of egg-rolls and soup. Are these stock photos from the original Yangtze on Van Horne? I can tell you with absolute certainty that is *NOT* what the food looks like at the new restaurant! The new egg-roll filling is all in a small ball at the center, with longer flat ends, and much, much darker. Soup was just won tons alone, no green chives.

Dec 31, 2011
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Yangtze on Van Horne claimed by fire Sunday night

Short recap...

-Jul. 17, 2011 -- Tchang Kiang restaurant in NDG goes out of business
-Nov. 1, 2011 -- The Yangtze sold to new owner, Marco Yau
-Dec. 3, 2011 -- The Yangtze burns down
-Dec.17, 2011 -- Tchang Kiang bought by Marco Yau, reopens Yangtze there

The new owners claim nothing has changed except the location. Otherwise same menu, recipes, chef and support staff. Of course many of us are finding otherwise, it's NOT the same food and unfortunately....NOT good.

They are also rebuilding the original restaurant on Van Horne (no idea when exactly), so there will be two restaurant locations.

Dec 31, 2011
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Yangtze on Van Horne claimed by fire Sunday night

The Yangtze was never perfect, but the food was edible. And throughout their up and down periods (I honestly felt they were going through an "up period" in the last year) the egg-rolls, plum sauce, fried noddles and won-ton soup were ALWAYS, ALWAYS fantastic--regardless of the rest of the meal, you were guaranteed to enjoy those staples. They never changed.

I'm telling you though, what they're serving on at this new restaurant is NOT EDIBLE. Simple as that, it isn't mediocre or off....it's putrid, vile tasting crap. Everything was so bad that night I refuse to give them a second chance. I hope that gives people here an idea what to expect...imagine giving up on a restaurant you've going to since childhood after one sitting!

My theory is the new owners figure the old client are mindless old sheep. They'll eat anything, and no matter what, so long as it called "The Yangtze". Serve crap and charge a fortune, they'll still come. I think they're going get a nasty surprise when they lose all their customers.

Heh, oh well, if they don't do well, they can always burn down Tchang Kiang too. :)

Dec 30, 2011
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Yangtze on Van Horne claimed by fire Sunday night

The huge price increases and significant drop in portions mean little to me. It is all about the FOOD. If a restaurant starts charging more and giving less, but the food is to die for, I may visit less often.....but I'll still keep coming back!

Bottomline is the food this new restaurant is serving is putrid. That, and that alone, is all that matters.

Dec 25, 2011
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Yangtze on Van Horne claimed by fire Sunday night

I'll agree I could have toned down parts of my review above, vitriolic and emotional indeed it was. Though sadly, even after sleeping on it overnight, I still think I was spot on.

I can forgive restaurants for having an off night, but some dinning experiences are just so bad, you swear you will never return. This was one of those experiences. What was served was unforgivably bad. I, nor any of my family, will ever return. I certainly will warn relatives and friends of what to expect too. The Yangtzee is dead.

As for pricing, we ordered the Dinner No. 3, as we always have, and expected a $23 bill. Came back $30 (price increase plus two person substitution surcharge). No warnings when we were discussing different substitutions with the waiter, rather underhanded. More so that you have to pay a surcharge for plum sauce. Come on! I'm surprised there wasn't a coin slot on the door to the bathroom door at this point (incidentally, the bathroom was unheated last night and it was -15 C outside. Glad I only had to wash my hands; I suppose more corner-cutting).

I will reiterate, based on that one meal, my family and I will NEVER return to the Yangtze. I think that says a lot about this new restaurant, I'm usually quite forgiving when it comes to off nights, particularly when its a restaurant I've been a loyal customer of for decades.

Dec 25, 2011
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)

Yangtze on Van Horne claimed by fire Sunday night

WARNING: This restaurant is an absolute abomination. Do not fall pry and be lured in by the name "Yangtze" or "Tchang Kiang"--this new establishment is not remotely similar to either former landmark restaurant, and puts shame to their history and name.

Let me start by saying I was a big fan of Tchang Kiang in NDG, and the The Yangtze in Cote Des Neiges. In the case of the latter I've been eating there since my childhood. Sure it's had its up and down periods, but it's always been enjoyable at the end. A comfort food if you will. When T.K. closed this summer and Yangtze burned down earlier this month, I felt like Montreal lost its best old-school Chinese cuisine restaurants in one swoop. So how excited I was when I heard they were both being brought back to life, and under one roof....!

So tonight, on Christmas eve, we decided to try out "Tchang Kiang by the Yangtze" on Sherbrooke street. Nice atmosphere, and busy, so far OK, but would it be the same food?
I had been to the Yangtze just days before it burnt down, so my memory was still fresh to compare.

We ordered from the menu and are first served fried wonton noodles with plum sauce. These look very different from what Yangtze on Van Horne always offered, and are dark brown, flat and a completely different texture. They taste like burnt crackers or wheat cereal. Worse the plum sauce is absolutely putrid and vile tasting, it appears to be simply corn syrup with a bit of sugar and water. This should have been a warning of what was to come, but we ventured on in hopes of tasting the Yangtze's classic food again.

Wonton soup is served. The wonton dumplings are almost devoid of any meat filling, but more concerning is they taste completely bland. Even the soup itself has no flavor. Not good.

Egg-rolls come next, and unfortunately, the same plum sauce from the noodles above is left for us to use (honestly, this sauce was inedible, I feel physically ill thinking about its taste). So the egg-rolls are a very greasy fried batter on the outside, and a different tasting filling that have an unpleasing aftertaste. These are certainly NOT the staple egg-rolls Yangtze has offered for decades, and not even close to Tchang either. Another disappointment.

Finally the rest of the meal is served. Portions are not as generous as before, but I'm more interested in the quality than the quantity at this point. Sadly none of the dishes resemble anything either Yangtze or Tchang ever offered, and quite likely THE WORST TASTING CHINESE FOOD I HAVE EVER EATEN, BAR NONE (yes, worse than food court Chinese food, worse than supermarket frozen Chinese food TV-Dinners). I realize that sounds ridiculous and over the top for a sit down restaurant, but yes, I kid you not, this food was THAT bad.

We had chicken fried rice, dry garlic spare ribs, pineapple chicken and almond chicken. All terrible, we couldn't even finish it it was so sub par and poor quality. The pineapple chicken contained dark meat in some pieces, and I believe they actually boiled the chicken before coating it with breading. Mealy and dry, awful. Almond chicken was watery and tasteless. Chicken fried rice bland and seemed to be lacking in chicken pieces...I thought it was brown rice or rice pilaf at first. It was also served to us luke warm, which was a disappointment since Yangtze used to bring pipping hot food. Spare ribs seemed dried out and too fatty to enjoy, I couldn't eat them. Quite a first.

Even the almond cookies at the end of the meal, they had a bitter taste! I thought at least that couldn't be bad, but they managed to ruin even the cookies. To add insult, when the bill arrived, they charged an extra $2.00 for making a substitution that we've always done in the past at Yangtze.

I hate to be so harsh, but this was more than just an off night, this was an eating injustice. If this is what the new owners of Yangtze are going to continue to serve, I fully expect them to be out of business in the coming year. I couldn't help but chuckle at one old man leaving the cash. Someone coming in asked how the meal was, he matter of fact replied, "Well, I'm still standing". That sums up my experience as well. I actually feel nausea tonight, not the eating experience I expected to say the least.

In summary, this new restaurant is a travesty to The Yangtze and Tchang Kiang. If you're looking to re-taste those old restaurants, do not bother coming here. You will not find either. Even if you just want to try something completely new and never been to either restaurant, you will be sadly disappointed. It does not even stand on its own merit. Rather sad tonight, two of my favorite restaurants are dead.

Dec 24, 2011
Apple IIGS in Quebec (inc. Montreal)