I bought a set from Lazarus in Indianapolis back in 1992, fresh out of college. Its been GREAT! I have 4-5 All-clad skillets (fully jacketed SS w/copper "insides"); while the AC's are "better" in terms of the rivets, the Belgique skillets which are welded, have held up perfectly, and show no signs of failing. Out of a 20+ piece set, I had one sauce pan fail last year where the bottom separated from the copper insides. I think I paid, for the entire 20 piece set, what 2 12" AC skillets would cost me now. A great buy!