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Recommendation for a pre-vow renewal lunch in Napa?

Hi Hounds...

You all have given me such great guidance on our past trips to SF that I had to come by and see if I could get more help.

My husband and I are heading out to SF and Napa for our 10th anniversary later this month and will be renewing our wedding vows at a winery while we're there. It's not a big, fancy to do by any stretch of the imagination--just my husband, myself and our officiant. That's it. No family, no friends, so we don't exactly have a big meal planned before or after.

Our little "ceremony" is at 3, so I was trying to find a place we could go for a nice lunch beforehand. We'll be slightly dressed up (I'm not wearing a wedding gown or anything like that, but I will be in a dress and my husband will likely be in a jacket at least, though I know he can shed that for lunch), and I'd like to try and find somewhere special.

I was debating between Redd and Auberge Du Soleil and right now, both have availability around noon the day we'll be renewing our vows. Any suggestions on one or the other? Or somewhere else?

I know Bottega is an option, but we're having dinner there the night before our renewal, so that won't work (unless you all think it'd make a better pre-celebratory lunch as opposed to dinner...)

Thanks in advance for the suggestions. We're real excited about this (it's also our first child-free vacation in an eternity, so we don't mind living it up a little!)

A16, Flour + Water, Delfina or Ideale...best family-friendly Italian?

Ceekskat, there was beef on the menu. LOL. As long as there's that, I can usually get him on board.

That said, my husband is getting better. On our last visits out there, he actually tried bison and he ordered (and enjoyed) a deconstructed caesar. I mean, yes, it's a caesar salad, but it was "deconstructed," which was a big deal for him :) Maybe I'm finally starting to rub off on him.

A16, Flour + Water, Delfina or Ideale...best family-friendly Italian?

Everyone--thank you so much! You've given me a lot to think about and me with not much time to decide. But I appreciate it. I think A16 may be the winner--but I do want to ask, is there any reason I wouldn't want the patio?

I'm not opposed to sitting on the patio if it means fewer patrons will be annoyed if he does get fussy. We live in South Florida, so outdoor dining is limited to a few months of the year (I mean, who doesn't love sweating into their dinner?), but when the weather is nice, we usually do try to find restaurants where we can sit outside with our son and not annoy people. That said--if the patio means lackluster service or it's uncomfortable, then no big deal. But outdoor seating doesn't necessarily bother us.

Thank you again and I cannot tell you how much I'm looking forward to our visit. Your city is so downright amazing I can't wait to share it with my favorite tiny human.

A16, Flour + Water, Delfina or Ideale...best family-friendly Italian?

I have to laugh a little at how you said "People love dogs more than kids." My cousin just visited friends in SF and I asked her to check with them for recommendations on places to go with kids. She came back empty-handed and with the same thought: "My friends said there are more things to do in SF with their dogs than there are to do with their kids."

So to hear that phrase again...hmm... :)

A16, Flour + Water, Delfina or Ideale...best family-friendly Italian?

Yes, we're going on a Monday and since we're flying back home on Tuesday morning, we'll definitely be going early, around the 5:30, 6 p.m. range.

A16, Flour + Water, Delfina or Ideale...best family-friendly Italian?

Grr. Okay. I appreciate that. I did a search on here and saw a couple of people mention Ideale as being toddler/kid friendly.

If you've got any more recommendations to throw our way, I'd be open to them. I've never been to SF with a little one, so I'm trying to navigate as best I can.

A16, Flour + Water, Delfina or Ideale...best family-friendly Italian?

Hey SF Hounds,

Making a visit to your lovely city in a few weeks and just trying to nail down the last dinner for our long-weekend.

We'll have our toddler with us on this trip, so I'd like to go somewhere we won't get the evil eye from other diners and where he'll be welcomed. He's generally a well-behaved kid, but he's 17-months old. He has his moments (we'll do our best to distract and entertain).

I figured Italian might be a nice option for us since we're doing La Folie (parents only!) on Saturday and doing the kid's night at luella on Sunday. Of these four, which do you think will be the best fit for us? We're staying in the Fisherman's Wharf area on this trip, so if any are closer to that area, I might go for it, just for convenience's sake. But ultimately--I'd like a good meal to close out our trip.

Thanks in advance!

Making our first trip to SF with a toddler and a little worried about where to eat

Hey there SF hounds...

My husband and I have had several wonderful trips to SF in recent years, but this will be our first time as parents and yes, we're taking the kiddo with us. He'll be 18 months old by the time we travel and I'd like to enjoy some good, non-chain food while we're there.

Only problem is, most of the places we've loved in SF--Gary Danko, Boulevard, Frascati, luella--aren't exactly places I'd feel comfortable taking our son. He's pretty generally well-behaved, but he's a toddler, so it's hit and miss.

I've searched the board and seen the recommendation for trying to eat early (we will!) and I saw Ideale got a few recommendations as being toddler friendly, so I think we'll try that one night. And my husband--the non-adventurous eater--will appreciate Italian.

What else should we try to hit up where people won't roll their eyes when we walk in with little guy in tow? We never made it to Zuni on our last visit out to SF, but looking at their menu, will that be too much Italian?

Would he be welcome at Frascati early? (It really is one of my SF favorites!) And my mom is coming with us to help out with the babe, so we'll get one grown-up night out. I figure I'll decide on that later...

We're staying in the Fisherman's Wharf area for the first time--figured it'd be easier with him--but we're not opposed to hopping in cabs or taking public transportation to get to good places.

Thanks much!

Our last trip to SF for a while and I need to find a spectacular "last supper"

Everyone...thank you so much! Please keep the suggestions coming. I never imagined this would be such a hard meal to plan. I'm likely putting too much pressure on myself!

I've drooled over the menu at Frances for weeks and I'm not surprised it was mentioned :) Of course, they're booked until, oh, a week after we're gone. But I'll keep checking every day in the vain hope that someone, somewhere, cancels.

Oh, and Epic Roasthouse looks wonderful...if not for our last dinner in SF, perhaps for one of the other nights. Would anyone say it's better than Zuni or Range? For now, though, I think I'm going to go with Zuni for our first night, Range our second and Epic Roasthouse our last night.

I'll be sure to report back once all is said and done...I'm already counting the minutes until our little one is here--and old enough to make the trip his parents' favorite city :)

Our last trip to SF for a while and I need to find a spectacular "last supper"

My husband is originally from San Francisco and in recent years, we've started a yearly tradition of heading out to the Bay Area at least once to visit family--and yes, watch his beloved 49ers :)

This year, we'll be there next month and just this week, we discovered it will be our last trip for a while (at least until our soon-to-arrive baby can handle a six-hour flight and heading across the country).

We've been fortunate enough in our recent trips out there to eat some pretty incredible meals, but needless to say, I'd like to make this trip our best one yet.

We'll be out there for a long weekend this time and so far, I've booked dinners at Zuni Cafe and Range. (I've also booked us a breakfast at Canteen on Sunday before we head out to Candlestick).

I'm looking for one more dinner and I keep debating whether to go with one of our old faves (either Gary Danko or Boulevard), or try something new. Right now, I'm leaning towards something new...I can't just figure out what yet.

I'm tempted by Water Bar, simply because the view looks amazing and if I can combine a good meal with some wonderful scenery, I'll take it. But I'm trying to stay away from seafood and shellfish right now since my tummy can be sensitive to those without being pregnant.

I know Ame is a Chowhound rave, but I don't know if my husband will go for that. He's not crazy about Japanese-influenced food and he's a pretty "safe" eater (a good steak goes a long way for him).

Any suggestions on a place for our last dinner out there? As I mentioned, we've both loved Boulevard and GD in the past, so that's the kind of food I'm looking for. We won't have a car, so something within SF proper would be best.

Thanks much!

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Zuni Cafe
1658 Market Street, San Francisco, CA 94102

Gary Danko
800 N Point St, San Francisco, CA 94109

Landing at SFO around 1 p.m...late lunch in the Haight or wait for dinner?

Hi there hounds...

Was trying to see if I could get some expert advice from some SF locals for the first day of our long weekend in SF.

We're scheduled to land at SFO on a Saturday around 1 p.m. (flying in from the east coast). I can't quite remember how long it took us last year to deplane and get to our hotel in Union Square, but I'm guessing to play it safe, we probably won't be in SF proper until what, 2:30, 3 p.m.?

Right now, we're debating what to do that first afternoon. We made two trips to SF last year, so we don't need to kill ourselves trying to hit up all the major attractions, although we didn't get to explore the Haight, so we'd like to hit that up at some point.

I was thinking maybe we could head over there for a late lunch before maybe having dinner at about 9 (hoping for Zuni Cafe, although their reservations aren't open for that weekend just yet). The only other thing I was considering was maybe heading over to the Ferry Building and having something light there before lunch. I can't predict how hungry we'll be since I'm going to assume we'll probably have a snack on the plane.

Would we be pressed for time heading to the Haight and then back to Nob Hill to change and get ready for dinner? Is it worth trying to get out there and have a light, late lunch or some snacks? If so, is there a place you'd recommend? A search of the board turned up Nopalito and I remember we were curious to try that last year--we just didn't make it there.

Or would you stick with something at the Ferry Building?

Thanks much in advance :)

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Zuni Cafe
1658 Market Street, San Francisco, CA 94102

Returning to SF and looking to recreate some past experiences

Hi there hounds!

Was hoping to see you experienced locals can help the hubby and I re-create some past fabulous evenings in SF--with new restaurant choices.

We visited twice last year, so I think it's safe to say we've hit up some of the big names in SF dining. We've had dinner at Gary Danko, Boulevard, Frascati, Absinthe, and Slanted Door (that I can remember...I'm sure I've forgotten a few places).

I think of those, my favorite evening was Frascati. It was a great meal, we did the touristy thing by riding the cable car to and from, and I just really enjoyed the restaurant's atmosphere and service (and yes, the food, of course the food!)

I'd love to have another evening like that on this trip and I'm thinking maybe either luella or Hyde Street Bistro. Any suggestions on those? Or something similar in the neighborhood?

I also really enjoyed our dinner at Boulevard, and love the Embarcadero area--the Bay Bridge at night makes my heart melt--so I wouldn't mind something there. I was considering One Market, but again--suggestions are welcome.

And on our last night, I think we'd really like to do one really nice meal, a la Gary Danko. But after two visits there last year, I'm open to something else. I'd been thinking about Fleur de Lys, but some of the mixed reviews are making me hesitant.

We haven't visited Zuni yet, so that's another option on my list although I'm not quite sure where it is...is it too far from the Union Square area? I'm pretty sure that's where we'll be staying. And in terms of food, while I don't mind doing adventurous eating, my husband is the opposite. He's a pretty simple guy when it comes to dining--a good steak, pork chop or chicken and he's happy.

I already booked a Sunday morning breakfast at Canteen before we head out to the 49ers game. The hubby is looking forward to that--I'm hoping that reservation will cut down on wait time. We did Dottie's before a game last year and I think he was getting stabby about the wait. It's tough being a 49ers fan living in South Florida; we don't get out there often enough for his taste, so he wanted to be at the stadium as much as possible, ha!

Thanks in advance for the recs and suggestions. I can't wait to hear what you have to say--and if any of those suggestions include a place for some amazing risotto (my favorite), I'll be all the more grateful :)

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Slanted Door
Ferry Slip, San Francisco, CA 94111

Zuni Cafe
1658 Market Street, San Francisco, CA 94102

Frascati Restaurant
1901 Hyde Street, San Francisco, CA 94109

Gary Danko
800 N Point St, San Francisco, CA 94109

One Market Restaurant
1 Market Street, San Francisco, CA 94105

Hyde Street Bistro
1521 Hyde St., San Francisco, CA 94109

San Francisco for the weekend

Matt, thanks much for reporting back. We're heading out to SF this weekend for a long weekend of our own and I keep going back and forth over our food choices.

We were thinking of scrapping Gary Danko (as we ate there on our last trip to SF this summer), but your post reminded me of why I loved it so.

I think we're going to keep our reservation after all :)

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Gary Danko
800 N Point St, San Francisco, CA 94109

Good Italian in West Broward?

Yeah, yeah, yeah...we're going to see Andrea Bocelli later this month and I want to make a whole production of the night. Starting with some stellar Italian food.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

All I can think of right now are chains and I'd rather not go down the Buca, Olive Garden or Carraba's path if I can avoid it.

Thanks much!

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Olive Garden
2575 NE 8 St, Homestead, FL 33033

In S. Florida for ONLY 1 year--Where MUST I eat?

Oh, Flanigan's is definitely a place to check out. The baby back ribs are so good.

I always tell my husband if we were to ever leave South Florida, Flanigan's is one of the biggest things I'd miss!

Lunch in the Mission around 24th Street, or nearby?

Thank you everyone! Can't wait to take a look at those walking tours! :)

Lunch in the Mission around 24th Street, or nearby?

We didn't quite make it to the Mission District on our last trip to SF this July, so we'd like to head out there when we arrive next--err, this!--week.

I was planning to do a self-guided walk along 24th Street to see some of the murals and sights, but was hoping to get some real-life suggestions for lunch in the vicinity.

We've gotten some recommendations for Papalote, and Regalito, but if there are any other favorites, I'd be happy to hear them.

I *think* this will pretty much be my last food related question for you SF experts...I'm pretty confident we've got a good food itinerary planned out for both me and the non-foodie husband :)

Thanks and can't wait to enjoy your amazing city again :)

In S. Florida for ONLY 1 year--Where MUST I eat?

I'll chime in and second the suggestion for Michael's. It's truly one of my favorites...as is Michy's.

And if you're only in South Florida a short time, I have to mention one of my sentimental favorites--Baleen. If you're looking for good and a spectacular view, it's one of the best for outdoor dining.

We go there every year for our anniversary and have always enjoyed it. Ask for one of the tables out on the rocks. Every time my husband and I go out there, I'm reminded of why I still love South Florida (with its warts and all, lol).

I

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Michy's
6927 Biscayne Blvd., Miami, FL 33138

On the Rocks
3640 S Sanford Ave, Sanford, FL 32773

Need some help with restaurants...for a non-foodie.

Thanks, everyone. I *so* appreciate the suggestions and I'm passing them along to him, along with menu links.

It does seem though that I thought of our little problem too late in the game, considering we're headed to SF next week. Range and Zuni, for example, are booked until 9:45 on Sat night...which normally wouldn't bother us too much but we're coming from the East Coast that same day. We might be beat by 9:45 that night.

But I'll keep working it. Also just got an email from a friend of mine who loved Frascati, so I guess that's in the mix now too.

And just to give you an idea of what I'm working with I just got an "I guess I can get the steak," email regarding the Boulevard menu. Not that there's anything wrong with steak...it's just all he ever has ;) -

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Frascati Restaurant
1901 Hyde Street, San Francisco, CA 94109

Need some help with restaurants...for a non-foodie.

Thanks...putting all these on the web browser and I'll show him some menus (especially before cancelling Boulevard...I so had my heart set on it, but this weekend is really a trip for him, lol. I got spoiled a little rotten when we were there in July ;)

I also came across the sites for Range and One Market...those look promising. Does anyone have any experience with those...(off to search now...)

Need some help with restaurants...for a non-foodie.

So I'm in a weirdly mixed marriage.

My husband loves the 49ers. I love the Dolphins. He attended the University of Florida (ugh). I attended the University of Miami.

But even worse...I love eating out at wonderful restaurants and drinking amazing wine. He absolutely hates, hates, hates those experiences. Seriously, he would enjoy a meal at Friday's more than he'd enjoy a meal at, oh, Gary Danko. He tells me this often.

Needless to say, planning our food itinerary for SF has been a...challenge.

Fortunately, he's agreed to dinner at Gary Danko on our last night because I loved it so much on our last visit. (I'm just convinced he picked the wrong entrees, because I was wowed while he wasn't...)

That said, I'm trying to narrow down some more options that will make both of us happy.

So far, this is what I have planned:
*Lunch in the Mission. A few friends have recommended Papalote but I'm open to more ideas. (He likes Mexican, so this will be easy.)
*Dinner at Boulevard
*Breakfast at Dottie's
*Lunch at Brix in Napa
*Dinner at Gary Danko

I need to try and find one more dinner spot for a nice Sunday night after we go to a 49ers game. I looked into the menus at AME and Canteen and yeah, there's just no way those will make him happy.

Can anyone help with a suggestion on one more dinner? Or give me any feedback on the places listed above?

Thanks much...

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Gary Danko
800 N Point St, San Francisco, CA 94109

Brix
7377 St. Helena Highway, Napa, CA 94558

Amazing food + amazing view...is it possible in Napa?

Hello Hounds...

Must confess...this is my first post on the boards after lurking for a few days and I feel like the complete novice I am, so please, be gentle.

My husband and I are headed out to SF for three days in November. We spent a week in your amazing city in July and felt the almost-immediate need to go back. As my husband is the East Coast's biggest 49ers fan, we're off for a football-filled long weekend very soon.

We managed to get out to Napa and Sonoma during our earlier visit and I fell in love so much, we've decided to try and spend a few hours (at least) out there on our next trip. Mostly, I'd just like to hit up a couple of the wineries we missed out on this summer. Then I do a little more research and discover there are fall colors to be seen? For a native Miami girl, this is huge!

So I'm now trying to find a place that can combine amazing food and beautiful scenery in Napa. Is it possible?

We'll have a car, so that's not an issue. And the wineries I'd really like to visit are Peju are Domaine Carneros (Although I have yet to map out an itinerary for which to visit first. If you'd like to make a suggestion on that too, by all means...I'd be more than happy for some advice).

Thank you much!