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A month in Paris. Looking for critiques on my list!

Good reports and very interesting takes. Thanks for these perspectives.

1 day ago
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Best Crepes in Paris

Can' t handle Nutella. :)

Recently found in an old cookbook and served at home: simple ble crepe, heavily sprinkled with sugar, quartered and served with quarter of lemon. Just the right amount of butter/sweetness/tart balance. 3

Apr 30, 2015
mangeur in France

Chez Denise...Joséphine Chez Dumonet...La Tour de Montlhéry ou chez Denise...Moissonnier

With all love and due respect, do you suppose if you stayed home the rain might stop?

Apr 30, 2015
mangeur in France

First night at Pramil?

I would also suggest that this chef is so caring and accommodating that he would/should easily modify any order to suit the young people. This place is very user friendly and hospitable.

Apr 29, 2015
mangeur in France

Louis in the 9th; Mangeur's idea of a chef's soul on the plate.

This us "heads up" praise.

Apr 28, 2015
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Yonne + Beaune/Dijon suggestions for family

This is a beautiful area. Here is a thought for lunch while visiting Guedelon. At the intersection of routes D85, D955 and D7 in Saint-Sauveur-en-Puisaye is a typical village hotel, the Auberge du Cheval Blanc. It is simple to the extreme, but the dining room was airy if dated. (Stuffed boar heads, etc.) Last year, it was the only place in town open on my birthday. Adorable waitress and surprisingly interesting and delicious plates. The chef, at least last summer, was cooking far above the expected level for a non-descript village dining room. When we left, I praised the cook who came out to meet us.
Needless to say, a very simple menu that should appeal to the youngsters and very inexpensive.

http://www.auberge-chevalblanc.net

Do be prepared that Guidelon is a mob scene. Horrendous lines, Disney-like promotion.

Note that there are lots of informal (eg. pizza) places in nearby St. Fargeau, but they are touristy, not awfully good not inexpensive for the quality. St. Fargeau does have an impressive chateau, also quite commercialized now with "spectacles" and a farm attached. But the children might enjoy it a lot. Magnificent roof beams visible from the inside.

Closer to Guidelon is another castle, Chateau de Ratilly that might be worth a peek. https://www.flickr.com/photos/martin-...

Apr 27, 2015
mangeur in France

Looking for Paris for recs for 2 dinners capped at 100€/person and 1 less expensive dinner

Last year, Aki was open through July. If consistent, he will not open on August 1. He is on our "visit once a year" list.

Apr 27, 2015
mangeur in France

Where to eat in 6th on first night?

Most probably a good choice. Do report back. And thanks.

Apr 26, 2015
mangeur in France

Vin jaune in Paris?

While I appreciate your discernment and your elegant prose, what sets your reporting apart is your passion. Without it, opinion pales. So many thanks for the infection.

Apr 26, 2015
mangeur in France

Resto Simone, 13eme -- a small neighborhood place, just right for lunch and distinctive wines by the glass

A reminder that negative as well as positive reviews have time value. Thanks for bringing this one up to date.

Apr 26, 2015
mangeur in France

Resto Simone, 13eme -- a small neighborhood place, just right for lunch and distinctive wines by the glass

Good find; nice report; super ardoise photo.

Apr 26, 2015
mangeur in France

Where to eat in 6th on first night?

Okay, I'll suggest our funky old friend, Machon d'Henri. (JT hated this place a few months back.) We've been dropping in here for over 20 years. The food is ordinary but the ambiance is, to us, a slice of Paris. Order os à moelle for a starter. Or the oeuf en cocotte. Or share an order of roasted red peppers. Go on to agneau a sept heures or gigot d'agneau, both with luxurious pommes dauphinois. For dessert, absolutely order (off menu) griottes avec deux cuillères, which will bring a bowl of cherries preserved in kirsch and the two spoons guarantee that each of you will still be able to walk out. Wash everything down with a 50l "pot" of house red.

You will find far better cooking in Paris, but the sweet if harried waiter and bewildered and benign off-the-street tourists will bring a smile. Often families who speak (and eat) no French, trying to order for exhausted children and selves from the extensive chalkboard. Welcome to Paris!

Apr 26, 2015
mangeur in France

Ellsworth: 3 of us took a hit for the team.

This isn't a case of "if you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all."

Indeed it is not. But it may well be a case of realizing that one's demands are above or different from the expected or understood norm.

I daily read enthusiastic endorsements for places that we thought were ordinary at best. Does it really serve a purpose to denigrate the positively reviewed chef and room? Or are others better off if I just describe our plates without praise and let others decide if that food is of interest to them.

Not long ago I wrote about a disappointing meal. Since then, a few others have visited and expressed similar experiences. Of course they would have saved money had they not booked, but dining out is about experiencing creativity for oneself. Few if any addresses come with a 100% guarantee.

Apr 26, 2015
mangeur in France

Ellsworth: 3 of us took a hit for the team.

Good points. Both positive and negative reviews can be unreliable. They all reflect personal taste in food and preferences in ambiance. Neutral descriptions of the food plus pics help me decide if it is food that we want to eat, while comments on noise and clientele can suggest if it's our kind of room. I, too, prefer to keep negative opinions to myself since we are often/usually much less enthusiastic than other respected and reliable reporters. Food and dining, after all, provoke very personal and individual responses.

Apr 26, 2015
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Are There No Good, Inexpensive Places In Paris?

:) We spend most of our time not close to or on the way to much.

Apr 25, 2015
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Are There No Good, Inexpensive Places In Paris?

Not so fast, Phil. DH and I are frequently looking for an informal lunch in the 11eme, 17eme, 19eme, 20eme, you get the drift. Perhaps less frequent visitors plan more formal or upscale lunches. For us, a delicious tidbit hits the mark.

Apr 25, 2015
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Prosper et Fortunée

Thanks, Jake. I think we get the drift at this point.

But a further question. What is with the ubiquitous mackerel in the last several years? I realize that it is cheap and sustainable, but I really don't like being the sole reason for its becoming an endangered species. Perhaps it will become my response to "Are you allergic or adverse to any food?"

Apr 24, 2015
mangeur in France

Paris with picky teenagers, help needed

Probably not.

My old workhorse Les Papilles might work if they can be enticed to eat "stew". Falls into the "tastes like meat" category. We have taken real wimps there and they have been delighted.

Like ferret, I think that once they get over the fact and shock that they are eating real food, they will find that they like it.

Apr 24, 2015
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Ellsworth: 3 of us took a hit for the team.

I think it's possible that the yea-or-nay reaction to Ellsworth results from different expectations and demands. It's my guess that the food is not great but neither "bad", perhaps too approachable for those looking for more excitement on their plates. And that the ambiance delights visitors and those ex-pats who enjoy chatting up their fellow diners while appalling those who like to distance themselves more from their native tongue. Just my humble opinion.

I remember friends of ours traveling with us who took a "night off" from us and went to Allard. We had dragged them to all the new hot rooms where no English was spoken. They were delighted at Allard where they enjoyed a jolly-up with couples from Chicago and LA while recognizing everything on their plates.

Looking for Paris for recs for 2 dinners capped at 100€/person and 1 less expensive dinner

Does Les Climats look like what you envisage?

http://lesclimats.fr/la-carte/#menu-d...

Apr 24, 2015
mangeur in France

Please help plan trip to Burgundy

Excellent advice for those not already committed to visiting Burgundy.

Apr 23, 2015
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Please help plan trip to Burgundy

Of course Olivier Leflaive does not represent more than a commercial view of Puligny, but for those who don't have intro to a fine cellar and who worry about language problems, it is a possibility. One would never, as you remind us, travel all the way to Burgundy just to taste OL wines. But if you want a vineyard visit with some explanation of wine production, it is an easy option.

More productively, with your experience, onzieme, can you share a few Burgundy addresses where the novice and non-French speaker can go for a better vineytard experience?

Apr 23, 2015
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Please help plan trip to Burgundy

Leflaive also does dinner. Very simple food accompanied by a range of three of his wines. He also offers vineyard tours in the morning. For beginners, this might be a good introduction and experience. All explanations in English.

http://www.olivier-leflaive.com/en/ta...

http://www.olivier-leflaive.com/en/vi...

Apr 23, 2015
mangeur in France

Vendee, specfically Apremont

Absolutely. Also note that most supermarkets have a local section for wines and another for products of the area, often upscale. And Pti taught us long ago that local butter and dairy choices are superb.

Apr 23, 2015
mangeur in France

Ellsworth: 3 of us took a hit for the team.

Indeed. But sometimes, even often, a review becomes a "derecommendation".

(I really wasn't referring to the so-called "Pti code", which you later more properly defined as manners.)

Apr 22, 2015
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Ellsworth: 3 of us took a hit for the team.

John and Pti, it occurs to me that people get tangled up in personal taste versus (if there is such a thing) objective appraisal of a chef's ability to cook. It's hard but possible to observe that the food is well sourced and very properly prepared, even creatively, and have the dishes not to one's liking. Even things like having the salt level different from one's preference can make a meal right or wrong. But does it make it objectively wrong?

Ellsworth: 3 of us took a hit for the team.

In defense of both of you, I have found that even at our favorite spot, tested many, many times, we have left on rare occasion with a feeling that it was ordinary. Not everything works every time, and diners arrive in different moods.

Ellsworth: 3 of us took a hit for the team.

I adore my friends and family. They enrich, nay, are my life. But they have little to do with my restaurant choices. Our relationships are based on love and mutual respect, not necessarily agreement, and that includes taste in dining style, both in terms of food and ambiance.

How can you not understand this?

You seem to have fixated on your word "friends" instead of "didn't read closely enough" and "trusted...too much".

Apr 21, 2015
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Ellsworth: 3 of us took a hit for the team.

That's a slippery slope...

Apr 21, 2015
mangeur in France

Post Elopement Dinner in Paris

If you are looking for a memorable, romantic, intimate and very French supper, you might consider La Petrelle. It is a tiny place, looks like it's decorated by your deranged aunt, well sourced and prepared food, decent wine, very personal attention. (Includes a wandering cat.) More locals than tourists. Not inexpensive but not overpriced for such an idiosyncratic experience.

http://www.petrelle.fr/

http://lefooding.com/en/restaurants/r...

Apr 21, 2015
mangeur in France