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Martha's Vineyard 2015 questions: restaurants, farmstands, Jamaican food, foraging

Greetings MV hounds! I’m heading to the island with friends next week and thought I’d do a little advance scouting. I’ve looked over archived threads and consulted a few other resources, but I’m hoping to get some more recent takes on a few questions.

We’re staying down-island so I’m most interested in general recommendations there, especially Oak Bluffs and Vineyard Haven, but I’d also love to hear about anything especially delicious anywhere – we’ll be there for two weeks so we’ll have time to drive around.

My girlfriend and I ate at Red Cat in Oak Bluffs two years ago and loved it; it looks like the menu hasn’t changed much (at least on the website) but is the food and bar still at the same level? That’s a semi-splurge for us; we’ve also had good luck with the MV Chowder Company for straightforward sandwiches, seafood, etc. What other places in that range are good this year?

For a blow-out dinner, friends had a great time at Chilmark Tavern last year; still as good? My sense is that State Road and Beach Plum Inn are in a similar class – is that accurate and which are your favorites (and why)? Any other similar places worth looking at?

We’ll be cooking a lot so we’ll certainly hit the West Tisbury farmer’s market a few times, but are there farmstands that come particularly recommended? Any standouts for fresh corn? Any favorite sources for local meats?

Jamaican/Caribbean food: I know there’s a substantial Caribbean population on the island – are there any great restaurants for this food? I saw an article from 2013 about Deon Thomas cooking at the Oak Bluffs VFW – is that still happening and is it worth trying? We had a nice lunch at the ag fair last year from a Jamaican stand – is that affiliated with a restaurant or truck?

Foraging: when I was a kid we used to pick blueberries somewhere along State Road between Chilmark and Aquinnah; I don’t expect foragers to give up their secrets (although at the time it was far from secret), but is it even worth looking for anything like this? I get psyched just to find a handful of raspberries so I’m not expecting a bounty, mostly just curious.

Thanks for any and all responses and I’ll add to this thread as we eat our way up the island.

Aug 13, 2015
MichaelB in Southern New England

Boston Public Market is here

I just checked it out this morning and the short version is that I was blown away - I'm so impressed that this finally came together. Of course it was semi-chaos, with the governor in one corner, cameras shooting everywhere, and tons of people. My overall impression is of an abundance of local food that Boston just hasn't had, ever. Several different meat vendors...multiple cheesemakers...great produce options (at roughly the same prices as I've seen at farmers markets), bakeries, donuts, chocolates, ice cream, candies, etc. All in one place! I don't usually feel this booster-ish but this is pretty great.

Where to eat in New England while traveling from NYC to Maine?

That's funny - we were traveling back from New York last weekend and an innocent google maps search for "Pepe's Pizza" in Manchester directed us to that same Pepe's. Fortunately I'd been to the right one before so I knew something was very very wrong and drove on, but it sounds like we missed some serious local color!

As you note, search for "Frank Pepe's" and it will lead you to awesome tomato pie.

Jun 05, 2015
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Babbo Pizzeria. Enoteca

I had a nice late lunch there this week. Good, professional service at the bar. Nice Aperol Spritz to start (I'd never had one so i can't comment on the authenticity, but I enjoyed it - good drink for an 85 degree day). The chopped salad was very well made: a nice variety of lettuces, olives, mortadella, ham, cheese, lightly dressed with a garlic aioli and topped with some pickled hot pepper shreds and fennel pollen. Pretty simple but perfectly executed and delicious. The pizza marinara was very good although the edge was pretty flat - not quite the puffy neapolitan crust of my dreams. Still, it was light, tender, well-charred in spots underneath, and the toppings were appropriately minimal but tasty.

I'll echo the posters who have been pleasantly surprised by the prices: one of the most reasonably-priced menus I've seen recently. I hope it stays that way. I'll definitely go back when I'm in the area.

May 28, 2015
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

bakery, patisserie in boston, seriously??

This thread drove me to finally try Cafe Madeleine today. Pain au raisin and a cannele.

The pain au raisin was spectacular - easily the best I've had around here (though I haven't been to Praline yet - that's my next stop). Better than Paris Baguette (which I usually find a little too sweet) and Iggy's (I find that their croissants, pain au chocolat, etc. are usually on the dry side).

The cannele had good flavor but sad texture - the outside was nicely dark but chewy, not crisp (that's not quite the right description of good cannele texture - something between crisp, crunch, and burnt sugar is more like it). I suspect silicone molds (rather than copper/beeswax) but I have no evidence.

In any case I'll be back for the croissants.

May 15, 2015
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

We were invited to the Harvard Club over 20 years ago for a brunch before a red sox game.

Possibly a cumberland sauce (made with red currant jelly)? More traditional with game or roasted meats than with pate, but very old school/english/clubby (and delicious as well).

pizza memories

Definitely the same location as Ernesto's. As I recall, very little changed other than the name - the decor, pizza, and (I think) some of the employees remained the same. I had the impression it was some sort of family issue that caused the name change, but I'm not sure. At some point they removed the "Home of the 2 Pound Pie" sign from the window, though the pizzas (and quarter-pie slices) continued to be quite large.

Circle Pizza (mentioned upthread) was on Hanover, possibly at Fleet Street?

Who makes the best tuna salad for sandwiches?

Actually, Domenic's has several tuna options. The Tonno panino uses oil-packed tuna and is wonderful although sometimes the oil soaking through is a bit overwhelming. But they also have a regular albacore tuna salad (with mayo) and the "mediterranean" tuna salad which is the albacore/mayo salad with roasted peppers, capers, and artichoke hearts blended in. I've never tried the regular one, but the mediterranean tuna is one of my favorites there if I'm in a fishy mood. It's pretty well blended so probably not for people who like the tuna to remain chunky, but it's definitely not too wet. Worth trying! I really like it with their fantastic thin-sliced marinated (really, pickled) eggplant - not a traditional tuna salad sandwich but pretty great.

If You Could Clone a Boston Area Restaurant Space, Which Would It Be?

On the nostalgia front, I still miss Curious Liquids on the corner opposite the statehouse. If you scored one of the 2-3 upstairs tables on the park street side, you had a stunning view down the Common, and the downstairs was full of cozy nooks and corners. Great mix of people and friendly staff too.

Back to today, I think Steel and Rye (mentioned upthread) is a great-looking room.

Return of the Ataulfo mangoes 2015

Early sign of spring: yellow mangoes from Mexico are back. Whole Foods had a few underripe ones at the Newton store (Washington street) along with some small Puerto Rican ones which are still ripening on my counter. But H-Mart (Cambridge) has the jackpot - stacked cases, loose ones, all looking pretty ripe and ready. I had one this morning and it was delicious. They're pricy right now - 2.50 apiece at H-Mart - which will drop as the season goes on, but I was willing to pay for a treat.

(The Indian markets in Waltham are reliably much cheaper sources - for Mexican mangoes as well as the platonic ideal Indian mangoes during their short May/June season - but I haven't checked if they have them in yet. Worth a look.)

Mar 03, 2015
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Blackbird Donuts?

Mmm, donut economics! Re the actual donuts, I tried them a few weeks ago and didn't get a very good batch. Chocolate old-fashioned was fresh with good chocolate flavor, but both sodden with grease and not quite cooked enough. One of those cases where almost great = quite bad. The stack of cinnamon sugar mini donuts were over-cooked; both greasy and kind of dry.

I won't write them off yet since it seems to take a while for donut places to execute consistently - I found Union Square pretty mediocre when they first opened, but generally excellent when I finally tried them again last year - so hopefully they'll improve.

Feb 06, 2015
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Where to buy bulk chocolate?

I third (fourth?) the suggestions for Marty's in Newton. If you like Callebaut then the Trader Joe pound plus bars are a good option as well (and probably the cheapest), but Marty's has a wider selection both within and across brands. They have a good range of Valrhona bars and discs (i'm nibbling on a Manjari disc right now!), as well as multiple kinds of Callebaut and some El Rey too. Whole Foods has some of those too, but Marty's selection is better and their prices are MUCH lower (by several dollars per pound).

Just remembered that Trader Joe's also has some Valrhona bars (branded, not repackaged as TJ's) - definitely the 100g bars in ~70 and ~80 % cacao (I think this is the "Noir Amer" line) as well as mini bars - maybe 20g? - in the milk chocolate and 56% cacao dark versions. Not as interesting as the Manjari, Guanaja, etc. but still very good. I think the mini bars are a dollar each and the 100g bars are about 3 dollars; not as economical as buying in bulk at Marty's but better than anywhere else.

Nov 06, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Just started watching "The Wire" - Lake Trout sandwiches?

Star Fish in Egleston square was my first thought as well. Not the cornmeal/cracker breading that seems to be the Baltimore standard, but it's great and under 3 bucks. It also meets the requirements for vinegary hot sauce and cheap sandwich bread (I think it's actually "wheat" but excess whole wheat flavor/texture is not an issue.) I like it with some hot sauce and tartar sauce; I generally pass on the optional slice of american cheese. Eat immediately as it gets soggy pretty fast. The whiting sandwich is the one you want - the pricy haddock version (4 bucks!) is good but no better.

I think they also offer one with bones (which - based on googling - seems to be the real Baltimore version) but I've never tried it.

Sep 04, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Pepes Pizza coming to Boston

I've been to that Manchester location twice recently and both times the pizza was equal to what I had at the New Haven original. I didn't have the clam pie - iffy clams are definitely a Bad Thing so I understand how that experience wouldn't instill confidence, but my experiences have been great.

I'm pretty excited that they're opening here - I love Regina's but it'll be great to have a New Haven style pie available.

Jul 29, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

If you love strawberries...

Thanks for this tip - I got some this weekend and they really are great. A little step below local berries but leaps and bounds above Driscoll etc.

May 27, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Awesome burgers: new thread

+1 on this. I tried it a few weeks ago for lunch and it was delicious - tasty and juicy. The bacon, caramelized onion, and pickle sauce put the richness a little over the top for me - I might leave off the bacon and onion next time - but overall it was great. When I had it the fries were a bit tough and not very hot, but that may have been a good thing since the burger plus a scottish cider put me into a partial food coma for the rest of the afternoon anyway - eating all the fries might have done me in!

It's about a half-block from the 39 bus stop and I think a half-mile from either Stonybrook or Jackson Square T is about right, but I'm happy to have it in walking distance. Very friendly service and mellow vibe as well.

May 22, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Late May Farmers' Markets, Farm Stands, CSA updates

Central Square market on monday didn't have much produce, although I did get some excellent fat asparagus from Hutchins Farm.

Two new vendors there - Union Square Donuts (surprisingly great donut holes!) and a new hard cider maker called Far from the Tree. They were sampling two ciders, both very crisp and dry. One was straight apple and the other one was fermented with hops and mint, which was unusual and refreshing, although I preferred the straight apple version.

May 22, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

indian mango?

Late reply, but I was at Waltham India last sunday (the 18th) and they said they would be getting some Kesars in on monday. I went for the sure thing and got a case at Patel Bros. 34.99 for 11 mangos but they're ripening nicely.

Not the same thing, but Patel Bros. also had about a zillion cases of beautiful looking Ataulfo mangos for 11-12 dollars, which is a great deal.

May 22, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Who has great tart raspberry lime rickeys?

I've always had excellent ones at Richardson's ice cream in Middleton. They do a nice job of squeezing and muddling so you get lots of lime juice and a bit of lime oil to offset the sweetness of the raspberry syrup. Haven't been yet this year so I have no idea if they are affected by the Great Lime Crisis of 2014.

Apr 27, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

H Mart Open in Central Square!

LOTS of misting! I noticed it several times while I was walking around the produce section.

They've used the space really well. It's MUCH nicer than the Burlington store, although of course it's only day one; hopefully it stays relatively clean.

Harvest downsized so much when they moved across the street that there's not as much overlap in products as there would have been before. I think their real target is Whole Foods, especially re the meat/fish/produce sections. I looked at the fish counter and it was MUCH better looking than at Whole Foods, and the meat selections looked excellent too.

I tried a sandwich and a canele from Paris Baguette. Both were good; neither made me swoon. I'll definitely be back for the other food court stops.

Apr 23, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Apricot Kernals in bulk bins?

I've seen these in the past at Trader Joe's (bagged), but it was a while ago and I don't know if they still have them. I think it was at the Coolidge Corner store, which usually has a wide selection of nuts and dried fruits; some of the smaller stores stock fewer selections.

Mar 24, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Canadian foods sold anywhere?

I don't know specifically if they have Canadian foods, but it's probably worth trying Cardullo's in Harvard Square - they have lots of international candies and cookies, etc.

Mar 24, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Quattro North End?

Too late to make suggestions for your dinner, but I've been twice and both times it's been good, though not great. I've had the roasted chicken, which was nicely cooked: well-seasoned, with nicely rendered skin (not especially crisp, though), and mostly moist meat. It came with grilled vegetables, which were fine if not especially exciting (or seasonal - asparagus in January?). More recently we tried the pizza, which was definitely Neapolitan - from the charred puffy rim to the somewhat soggy middle - but again, good not great. The meatballs ("meatball madness"!) were just okay - I wouldn't get them again.

It's definitely got a more modern vibe than many North End places, and a less trapped-in-amber menu - I'd go back to try other dishes. The service has been friendly but kinda nervous and amateur - not a problem but not a strength either.

btw the proper Neapolitan pizza has arrived in the neighborhood since Slim posted - up the street at Locale. If I were just going for pizza, I'd go there, but Quattro has a much broader menu. I'd be curious to hear other people's impressions since I've only tried a few things so far.

Mar 07, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Large format dinners in Boston

Anh Hong does 7 courses of fish as well - also delicious.

Feb 20, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Tenoch Mexican in the North report

I didn't see any beer or wine when I was there; don't know if they're planning to try for a license or not.

Feb 14, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Bondir Concord Just Okay

Ditto - Domenic's was one of my favorite things about working in Waltham. It was a happy day when I discovered a side route that shaved about 10 minutes off the round trip there by avoiding Main St. traffic. I could eat an eggplant panino right about now!

Feb 14, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Tenoch Mexican in the North report

Just tried this tonight - thumbs up! I'm excited to have this as a more T-friendly option than the one in Medford.

We shared a torta (carnitas and chorizo - I forget the spanish name for this), an order of chicken enchiladas with mole sauce, and a pork mole tamal. The torta was fantastic, just as good as in Medford, and better than any others I've had since Tacos Lupita in Porter Square changed names and went downhill. Nice mixture of flavors from the shoulder meat and sausage.

The enchiladas were very tasty although we had actually ordered them with green sauce rather than mole, but they were pretty busy and it seemed silly to have them redo a whole plate. I chose the chicken to match with the green sauce - it was a little overwhelmed by the flavor of the mole but perfectly fine. Good rice and black beans alongside.

The tamal was good, and a little different from ones I've had - it was steamed in a banana leaf (rather than a corn husk) and the masa was *very* tender and had a bit of sweetness in the mix. Very comforting on a cold night; I might try it with green or red sauce next time to balance out the sweetness. The mole itself was a bit sweeter than I expected (but I am no expert in mole) but was velvety smooth and rich.

It's a nice little space - not fancy but modern-looking and comfortable. I think there are just 22 seats, but they were already doing a lot of takeout. The owner was at the register and was incredibly friendly and gracious. I got the impression that the kitchen was still working its way into shape (not surprising on their 3rd day open) - the owner said he was getting used to not being right next to the line as he is in Medford - but overall everything was really solid. I look forward to working my way through the menu, especially all the different tacos and tortas.

Feb 12, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Best in Watertown?

Yes to those (especially the walnut macaroons), and I'd add the persian baklava - sweet and flaky, with lots of crushed pistachios and a strong cardamom flavor. I don't love most baklava but I really like these.

Jan 27, 2014
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Roland Demerara Sugar Cubes -- anyone know a (cheap) local source?

I've seen them, very intermittently, at Ocean State Job Lot stores.

Dec 16, 2013
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area

Canary Square seafood dish + scallop guts question

Oh, this was *definitely* not roe. Roe would have been cool. This was just connective tissue - digestive tract, membrane, etc. As Bob Dobalina suggested above, I did kind of think, "hmm, steamers?" Or as a co-worker commented when I told her, it's "nose-to-tail!"

I can get over the skeevy factor but I definitely think the sweetness of the scallop meat got lost in all the other stuff. Although some of that may have been the prep - the strong flavor of preserved lemon is an interesting idea but might go better with a sea scallop.

Dec 09, 2013
MichaelB in Greater Boston Area