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Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

I wish the same thing. That place is very special.

about 4 hours ago
Josh in San Francisco Bay Area

Craft brewers sue Texan government

Lone Star is not good. TX has some great breweries though. Your appreciation of Chelada is sure to boost your cred, though, big time.

:-D

about 9 hours ago
Josh in Beer

Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

I don't see anyone suggesting that "techies" (which you claim to be yourself) are deserving of sympathy or violins. I'm sorry that the observation that places which offer less expensive meals are appealing to young people troubles you so.

If you're going to have drinks, an appetizer, and an entree most decent places are going to cost much more than $30/person.

Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

When I say lower-priced I mean ~$30/person.

Not sure what you're paying in rent, but median price here now puts SF higher than NYC. Someone making barely 6 figures isn't going to be eating many dinners at Saison.

Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

Rent in SF is so high that even six figures means finding lower-priced dining options.

Anywhere to get Russian River Pliny the Elder in San Diego

I've never heard any wine industry folks give Spectator any respect. Usually referred to derisively as "Wine Speculator".

My beef with these kinds of ideas is that they get distilled by journalists into the appealing sound bite that wine appreciation is bunk and there's no merit to the idea that some wines are better than others. Yet when I used to participate in a tasting group comprised of both professional and amateur oenophiles it was pretty consistent how much agreement there would be in blind horizontal tastings, and often cheaper bottles would beat more expensive bottles.

But in terms of popular culture journalism it seems there's a desire to be extremely reductive and there's almost never any acknowledgement that some people do have more sensitive palates and senses of smell than others. Ask anyone who's taken the super taster test, or better yet take it yourself with someone who is one.

2 days ago
Josh in San Diego

Anywhere to get Russian River Pliny the Elder in San Diego

A little puzzled by this: if people are being fed wine via straw then they're not engaging their olfactory system, which is much more important to flavor perception than the mouth.

Also, found this:
http://dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.co...

For Mr. Name's benefit, here is the tl;dr takeaway:

'The bottom line is that wine is a far more complex picture than the one painted in “The Wine Trials’’ – at least it is for people who love wine and are seriously interested in it. For those whose interest stops at picking up the occasional bottle for dinner, there is little need to complicate that picture.

Think of visiting a museum of modern art. Those who don’t study art, and rarely think about it, will have a much different reaction to, say, a Jackson Pollock, than somebody who’s greatly interested in modern art and knows a bit about Pollock and his contemporaries. Many people might have to do some reading and research on their own, or even take an art history course, to begin to understand what critics and art historians saw in Pollock. Some might conclude it’s all hogwash, but others might gain a deep and rewarding appreciation.

I’m not saying wine is the equivalent of art. I do say that wine can be appreciated on many different levels, but that nobody should ever feel obliged to appreciate wine on any level. In the end, the book seems to divide wine consumers into the casual buyers who are pushed this way and that by forces they don’t understand, and the wealthy conspicuous status seekers who also are not quite aware of capitalism and marketing. Unacknowledged are the serious wine lovers who are knowledgeable, experimental and passionate, and who, yes, are in control of their own destinies. The book may speak to the first two groups, but not to the third.'

2 days ago
Josh in San Diego

Craft brewers sue Texan government

Not a fan of their bock, diacetyl bomb, but they do make a schwarzbier that's pretty decent. I don't think it's available outside of TX though.

2 days ago
Josh in Beer

San Diego Swordfish (and other fish)- Are there tumors, and how do San Diego's fishmongers deal with them?

The Seattle Times piece cites numerous oceanographers who work for research institutions who are the very people that perform the kinds of studies you're demanding. Do you believe the writer of the piece is just inventing what the researchers are saying?

2 days ago
Josh in San Diego
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Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

I like that I can get an espresso at Blue Bottle that doesn't taste burned. I also like that they always have New Orleans-style iced coffee.

Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

Fortunately many craft breweries are making fantastic light and crisp lagers, plus other food-friendly styles like porters and brown ales, for all your food-pairing needs.

Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

Skunkiness is caused by UV light isomerizing the alpha acids from the hops. Any beer bottled in clear or green bottles is susceptible to this, and it can even be caused by fluorescent tubes in refrigerated beer displays, which is why I don't like buying Trumer in six-packs where the bottles are exposed to light. On a sunny day any hoppy beer in a clear glass can turn skunky in just a few minutes.

It's likely the case that if one is having Trumer on draft and the beer becomes light-struck that the wider mouth of the traditional shaker pint allows for better perception of aroma than the much narrower mouth of the Trumer glassware. It would be interesting to learn if that was the intention behind the design.

Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

My understanding of what comprises 3rd wave is more to do with the degree of roast than anything else, i.e. not necessarily the method of preparation. At Blue Bottle at Mint Plaza, for example, I like the Kyoto-style cold brewed coffee, which is quite rich.

I won't claim to know the best place for 3rd wave, but I've certainly had bad examples like I've read about here and I won't bother getting it near where I live because there aren't any good cafes.

I do get it often near where I work in SOMA, and the two places I go most frequently are Cento at Chrome on 4th and Brannan and Showplace Caffe at Harriet and Brannan. Cento has good pourover and espresso, as does Showplace. Showplace uses an interesting lighter roasted bean than usual for espresso and I like it a lot. Ambience is not much at either spot - these are places to grab a coffee to go on your way somewhere else.

Dec 18, 2014
Josh in San Francisco Bay Area

Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

Why would you deliberately avoid 3rd wave coffee? It's really good when done well.

San Diego Swordfish (and other fish)- Are there tumors, and how do San Diego's fishmongers deal with them?

If you're an advocate of critical thinking riddle me this: does it seem reasonable to conclude that decades of dumping a myriad of industrial effluents into the oceans would not have an impact on marine life and ecosystems?

Dec 17, 2014
Josh in San Diego

Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

I sure hope not, though I must admit the redevelopment in Dogpatch bears more than a passing resemblance to redevelopment down there.

Dec 17, 2014
Josh in San Francisco Bay Area

San Diego Swordfish (and other fish)- Are there tumors, and how do San Diego's fishmongers deal with them?

Maybe tumors in fish will be enough motivation for people to take ocean pollution seriously.

A man can dream.

Dec 17, 2014
Josh in San Diego

Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

It's funny because when I left San Diego that was the big complaint on their Chowhound board, literally the same proliferation of burger/craft-beer joints.

I think they're popular because they're a means to offering a more upscale meal made from quality ingredients at a lower price point, plus they appeal to a younger crowd.

Dec 17, 2014
Josh in San Francisco Bay Area

Anyone else getting tired of "new" Craft Beer,Gourmet Burgers & 3rd Wave Coffee joints in Bay Area?

When's the last time you tried craft beer? Heavy IPAs haven't been a thing for a while now. And if the beer is skunky that means it was stored improperly.

SF best steakhouses

I feel the same way about corn-fed.

Dec 16, 2014
Josh in San Francisco Bay Area

Czech beer in Russian Ambiance / Organic Peak and Hops

As much as I agree that jonkyo is frequently not as well-informed as he might be I have no problem defending Optimator as still being a very fine beer.

Dec 16, 2014
Josh in Beer
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SF best steakhouses

I like Bluestem Brasserie on Market St. because they source their meat from a ranch nearby and all the steak is 100% grass-fed beef. It's a little more modern in terms of sides, etc. than a traditional steak house.

They also make charcuterie in-house that's very good, and if you're not a steak eater they also have good fish, pork, and poultry dishes.

http://www.bluestembrasserie.com/perc...

Dec 16, 2014
Josh in San Francisco Bay Area

Rogue Hot Stout

That person needs help drawing analogies.

There is one good thing about the beer: the bottle art is very nice.

Dec 15, 2014
Josh in Beer

Prices getting stupid

Agreed, this is why I've been avoiding Cascade beers. A few coworkers have taken the plunge on some of their pricier bottles and I've found them to be not worth the money.

Dec 15, 2014
Josh in Beer

Anywhere to get Russian River Pliny the Elder in San Diego

Stone's "Enjoy By" is pretty good, but to me Pliny sits at the top of the IPA hierarchy along with other "best in class" IPAs like Heady Topper; Alpine's trio of Hoppy Birthday, Duet, and Nelson; Sculpin; plus too many to list from Cellarmaker here in SF.

Pliny was the first to hit that magic combination of floral/citrusy hops and light, crisp body that has become the hallmark of the West Coast IPA. To me the bigger, maltier IPAs are much more old school and seem clumsy by comparison.

Dec 15, 2014
Josh in San Diego

Craft brewers sue Texan government

Texas is awful.

Dec 15, 2014
Josh in Beer

Ground Beef: Are my taste buds getting too old, or does Ground Beef have little taste compared to apprx 20 years ago?

Factory farming sucks.

Dec 14, 2014
Josh in General Topics

Truth Be Told... Further Evidence Local Brews Superiority Over... Port Jeff

Dec 13, 2014
Josh in Beer

Rogue Hot Stout

Someone I work with ordered a bottle. As he put it, "it smells like a garbage disposal".

One of the worst beers I've ever had. Even worse than the Voodoo Doughnut beers from them. The garbage disposal comparison was very apt, since the combined aroma of beer, vinegar, and garlic was so repellent.

It didn't taste as bad as it smelled, but not by much.

Dec 13, 2014
Josh in Beer

Anywhere to get Russian River Pliny the Elder in San Diego

Someone should brew a beer in your honor and call it Curmudgeon.

Dec 12, 2014
Josh in San Diego