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Santa Fe - anyone been to new frozen dessert places?

I was driving downtown yesterday and saw a new frozen yogurt place on Marcy St. Didn't quite catch the name - maybe Dede's FroYo or Dodo's FroYo or something like that. Anyone been there? How does it compare to Ellie's Yoberri?

I recall a new gelato place was opening in the DeVargas center, but don't know if it's official yet. O-Gelato, I think. I saw a pint of theirs in the freezer at Whole Foods and almost grabbed it until I saw the price - nearly $9.

Would love to hear some reviews if anyone's tried either of the new places.

I'll confess to pining still over the loss of Gelato Benissimo that was on Montezuma. Sigh.

325 W San Francisco St, Santa Fe, NM 87501

Jul 06, 2010
505alyce in Southwest

Recent Santa Fe eats: Los Amigos, Masa Sushi, El Meson, Bobcat Bite, Blake's

I know it's sacrilege to say so, but I don't get a green chile cheeseburger at Bobcat. I'm not a big enough fan of green chile to ruin an amazing piece of beef. It's better all on its own, imo. More often than not I get the Rib Eye (with home fries and their vinegar- not mayo-based cole slaw). Aside from the $40 tenderloin at The Compound, it's the best steak I've had in Santa Fe.

Nov 01, 2009
505alyce in Southwest

New St. Francis Hotel in Santa Fe

Plenty of locals won't step foot in the "new Hotel St. Francis" after the reaming the new management team took in the paper. They came on board and immediately fired a bunch of old-timers in an effort to save money. Not the best first impression. Santa Feans have long memories.

Always enjoyed the bar there. The restaurant space has been outsourced and thus has been a revolving door of mediocrity for over 5 years. It'll be interesting to watch if this latest incarnation is a success.

Oct 19, 2009
505alyce in Southwest

Can I find good pastrami in PHX/Scottsdale/surrounding?

Headed to AZ for Thanksgiving and hoping to find a good pastrami sandwich.

I've seen Chompie's and Miracle Mile mentioned on these boards. Is one of these the best place to find a pastrami sandwich? Is it thick sliced from a steamed brisket like I'd find in NYC?

Oct 19, 2009
505alyce in Phoenix

Just moved to Santa Fe, had some questions about the chow basics (coffee, pizza...)

Really enjoyed your responses. So few 'hounders ever come back to provide the satisfying conclusion. I look forward to reading more about your culinary adventures.

Sep 17, 2009
505alyce in Southwest

Just moved to Santa Fe, had some questions about the chow basics (coffee, pizza...)

Welcome to Fanta Se! I'll weigh in on a couple of your categories:

pizza - We like Backroad Pizza on Second Street (thin crust, cornmeal under, housemade sausage elevates the norm to new heights) At Rooftop Pizzeria downtown (2nd floor of the Arcade)we like the No. 7 which is a white pizza with wild mushrooms, big cloves of sweet roasted garlic, alfredo, and truffle oil

bagel - NY Deli only. They close early (3/3:30) and often run out of bagels long before then. Bagelmania used to bake bagels with the same recipe as NY Deli (NYD's owner opened B decades ago), *BUT* they outsourced to some local bakery and they do not resemble bagels any longer. Bagelmania does do a brisk, well-deserved weekend breakfast business, but don't order a bagel.

bakery - Sage Bakehouse is my choice for bread and pastries (in particular the pain au chocolat often still warm and gooey). Not open Sundays. They do occasionally run out of pastries early. I have yet had a purchased cake from a local shop that was stellar.

Kohnami ( and Shohko ( are my preferred sushi choices.

Yin Yang does serviceable Chinese food near downtown. Mu Du Noodles is excellent pan-Asian but, imho, extremely expensive for what it is ($17 pad thai is highway robbery).

Holy Spirit Espresso, the hole-in-the-wall next to the Lensic, does make a superior espresso beverage, but when you want to avoid the crowds, one of Java Joe's 2 locations may suffice. I find the baristas at Ohori's needlessly officious and their sizing/# of shots convention illogical.

If you're meat eaters, please head to Bobcat Bite for a green chile cheeseburger, or a to-die-for rib eye.

The Tuneup Cafe on Hickox is delicious for breakfast and lunch (I haven't had dinner there), as is Counter Culture. Bring cash or local check to Counter Culture.

Aug 12, 2009
505alyce in Southwest

Santa Fe veggie tamales?

Blue Corn (both locations - downtown and Rodeo/Cerrillos) serve a green chile cheese tamale. They have a no carne plate with an enchilada, tamale, and relleno. I like their green chile. Ask for a side of calabacitas (corn and squash) to cut the cheese overload, if you wish.

Jun 28, 2009
505alyce in Southwest

Santa Fe in July

CAUTION: Geronimo has new/old chef and a new menu to go with. The website has not been updated to reflect the changes, but for reference here is an article from our local rag:

DiStefano is a genius, but I haven't heard any reviews yet of the new Asian & French inspired menu. You may want to wait to see how he settles back in, especially given that he is also juggling duties at Coyote.

The Compound continues to be my go-to for an upscale meal. They have an excellent wine list.

And no trip to Santa Fe would be complete without Bobcat Bite for a green chile cheeseburger or rib eye.

Cafe Pasqual is a lovely way to spend $20+ at breakfast, and has a wonderful mostly organic/local menu at dinner.

Tune Up Cafe ( in the old Dave's Not Here space serves up great New Mexican food and adds a Salvadoran flair to a few items. Never had anything here that I didn't like.

Jun 28, 2009
505alyce in Southwest

ABQ: Recs for a great STEAK?

Looking for an Albuquerque steakhouse, or other choice for a great steak.

Any and all recommendations welcome!

Jul 30, 2008
505alyce in Southwest

Santa Fe question

Agreed. Whole Foods.

Jun 30, 2008
505alyce in Southwest

Albuquerque & Santa Fe

You asked some simple questions that would not have gone astray in any major city. But ABQ & SF are no regular cities. You simply won't find many 'hounds recommending places in NM that fit in to the categories you seek because we don't have a lot of places that do those cuisines well. We do New Mexican really well. Local and organic American cuisine really well, too. You'd be best served to take the best of what we have to offer and not have your heart set on things like Tex-Mex (it's like a curseword here). :-) Sorry for the other snarky comments.

I'm a SF girl, so my answers are all for SF restaurants.
Kohnami has the best sushi in town, hands down
Cleopatra in the Design Center has excellent gyros and hit-or-miss falafel
The Shed or La Choza would be my choice for New Mexican
Cafe Pasqual is fun atmosphere and great food for weekend breakfast (available thru the mid-afternoon); they do an equally stellar dinner of mostly organic, locally-sourced foods (pricey)
I'd choose The Compound if you want an elegant meal out with an amazing wine list (this may be the only place where a jacket would not be unheard of - people in jeans and cocktail dresses rub elbows here)
Bobcat Bite is a hole-in-the-wall, but a must if you're looking for the best green chile cheeseburger

The weather will likely be layer-worthy. Sunny, mid 50s or 60s during the day, and colder at night. We have had a dusting of snow mid-October on rare occasions.

Jun 30, 2008
505alyce in Southwest

Who's cooking at Geronimo?

Yes, Martin is now chef/part owner of Geronimo. No local reviews to be had since the switch. I'll keep an ear open for you.

Jun 30, 2008
505alyce in Southwest

Delicious Dives in Santa Fe?

If you're in town Wed-Saturday, stop by Bobcat Bite for a green chile cheeseburger, or a ribeye.
The Pantry or Flying Tortilla or Tecolote for breakfast
The Shed or La Choza for lunch
The Plaza Restaurant/Diner for any meal
I'd skip Maria's and Tomasita's, like wagger.

Jun 30, 2008
505alyce in Southwest

Coyote Cafe Changes - Santa Fe

There is a difference between 'dragging through the mud' and reporting factual items about the management/ownership (which in this case involves its very talented chef).

Chowhounders know this.

Jan 21, 2008
505alyce in Southwest

Shopping for local ingredients in Santa Fe

1. Please read what I already wrote above. Santa Fe is a small town. Have you been here before?
2. The Art Barns are actually farther away from Albuquerque than many points in Santa Fe proper. Of course, we're talking about maybe 15 add'l minutes on an already 1hr drive, so it depends on how far you are used to driving for groceries.
3. The one place that is unsurpassed in ABQ is Talin Market, an international foods market with great ingredients from around the world.

That being said, I can find 90% of the ingredients I need at Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and occasionally Albertson's. I don't much of a need for a specialty shop.

Dec 11, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

Basque restaurants in Albuquerque or Santa Fe

I don't know of any Basque restaurants in NM full stop.

As for La Boca (a Spanish restaurant focussed mainly on tapas), you can read about it here:

Dec 05, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

Shopping for local ingredients in Santa Fe

Second and third what has already been said. Be warned that Kaune's is quite small, and closes early (7pm). I've had mediocre produce from them, but their meat counter is great.

Because Santa Fe is a city of roughly 60,000 year-round residents, independent and specialty stores are really non-existent. Aside from the big guns that you have already mentioned, Kaune's is your only local grocer.

Nov 19, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

Santa Fe Req's for Thanksgiving/Bday Trip?

I agree with fyfas that for "special occasion" dining, you should seek out Inn of the Anasazi. Fuego is also delicious.

Trattoria Nostrani is as good as everyone says. Let them guide you toward a wine pairing, unless you're well versed in Italian wines. They vvon't lead you astray.

The Shed is not touristy, but it is very popular. Deservingly so. Expect a wait.

Nov 12, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

Santa Fe - Amavi

You could walk to The Compound or Geronimo, depending on how near the Plaza you are. I'm going to stand by my usual vote for The Compound.

Inn of the Anasazi is great. A current can't miss experience.

Nov 12, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

Santa Fe: OK, so here's what happened

Also... Bobcat Bite was closed that week. They do that a couple of times a year, and you just hit it at a bad time. Sorry you missed out.

Thanks for this detailed review of your stay. I'm itching to get to Sugar's again.

Nov 12, 2007
505alyce in Southwest


Fancy places and hotels will likely be your only choices. Where are you staying?

Nov 12, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

Green Beans Are Disgusting

You skipped the most important part of that Q&A:
I notice there aren't very many green vegetables on the menu.

That's right. Our Thanksgiving meal is all about the desserts.

THEN he goes on to say that they're leaving out green veg. Sheesh. Are you daring to say that green beans are more delicious than pie? :-)

Also, a pie crust coming out right depends on a lot of things, including the relative humidity, so I appreciate that they suggest I keep some of the flour out to add as is appropriate.

Nov 12, 2007
505alyce in Features

Sugar's in Embudo, NM

Does anyone have the scoop on Sugar's? Are they still open? Have they sold? I'm looking forward to a brisket burrito, but don't want to get my hopes up.

Oct 30, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

ABQ Dim Sum

Ming Dynasty was a hit. I know this going to sound weird, but it was totally run-of-the-mill dim sum. But that was exactly what I wanted: pork buns (steamed and baked), shrimp noodles, shrimp and leek dumplings, great prices. Delish. Fast, friendly service. And while my husband doesn't like it when I order chicken feet, I couldn't help but ogle them at other tables. They were obvs a big seller.

We'll plan our next trip to AmerAsia on a Saturday and then report back.

Thanks to all for feedback.

Oct 30, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

ABQ Dim Sum

It's a second location, according to the blurb in the alibi. The original remains open (for now).

As we're going to be in ABQ on Sunday our only choice is Ming Dynasty. I'll be sure to report back.

Oct 26, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

ABQ Dim Sum

Looking for recommendations for Saturday or Sunday dim sum in Albuquerque. Or a Chinese bakery where I could find both baked and steamed pork buns.

Am I dreaming? Is there such a place?

Oct 23, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

Holidays in Santa Fe

I had written an extensive reply that was eaten by the Chowhound board monster. I'll recap it more briefly here.

You may have better luck finding dining suggestions for holidays from local hotel concierge desks. The posters here tend to be locals (or residents), and not people traveling to Santa Fe. I do the Xmas Eve farolito walk on Canyon Rd, like many of my friends and family, but we eat family meals on those occasions. Take note that SF will be largely closed down for the holidays (especially Xmas and Xmas Eve) so your only luck may be at hotels. Even grocery stores and fast food chains will close early.

The better hotels (La Posada, Inn of the Anasazi, Bishops Lodge, Eldorado, Hotel Santa Fe) will have the best advice, of course.

Good luck.

Oct 23, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

Help! Where to get a great steak in Santa Fe???

The Compound has a filet mignon that is amazing. And I can vouch for the ribeye at Bobcat Bite.

There aren't many suit-required places in Santa Fe...

Oct 02, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

Breakfast in Santa Fe / and dessert

I like Pasqual's. And I am not a tourist.

I second the votes for Harry's, especially if you're not in a hurry to be seated.

Oct 02, 2007
505alyce in Southwest

2 nights in Santa Fe - Where to dine?

Trattoria Nostrani is excellent (and could easily exceed the $120 you mention). I wouldn't call the atmosphere stuffy. On the contrary. This is a matter of doing food so well, you don't mind leaving the parfume at home.

Anasazi is great now that The Old House's former chef Martin Rios has moved over. They have always had an excellent margarita.

I'd take her to The Compound for incomparable service and quality. Another of Santa Fe's award-winning chefs is in residence here.

If price is truly no option and you can get a table, I'd vote: 1) Trattoria Nostrani, 2) The Compound, and 3) Anasazi.

Let us know where you decide to go and write a little review.

Aug 07, 2007
505alyce in Southwest