
Dear Helena,
Recently my friends threw a baby shower for me. I didn't want it to be like a regular baby shower—diaper cakes make me want to vomit—so it was just a regular coed cocktail party. It was so much like a regular party that it even included one extremely drunk guest on the verge of passing out. His eyes were half-closed, his speech was slurred, and at times it seemed as if the only thing keeping him upright was the hostess's priceless antique grandfather clock. He stood too close to people, staring at them, and grabbed several women's derrières. He also hit on one of the hostesses in front of her girlfriend, and at one point, looking for a napkin, grabbed a stuffed teddy bear and used that instead.
I knew that he was drunk but didn't realize how far gone he was or how offensive he was being. Or maybe on some level I didn't want to risk a confrontation if I tried to force him into a cab. So I just sidled away from him and tried to have fun at my party. Afterward, I found out he had harassed my friends and felt bad. What is the best way to handle a drunk at a party? And if you're the drunk, what can you do to make amends?
—Baby Shower Blues
Dear Baby Shower Blues,
It's tricky to handle a drunk at a party, certainly much trickier than handling a drunk at a family dinner. That's because at a large party, guests may not know the person and may feel uncomfortable about reporting his behavior. (For all they know, he's the host's oldest friend.) The host can't be everywhere at once and might not even find out what's going on until it's too late. As a teenager, I hosted a party where I asked my guests to remove their shoes, hoping to protect my parents' carpets. Unfortunately, a sloshed guest thought it would be amusing to throw all the shoes in the pond in the backyard—a prank I didn't discover until guests were leaving and wanted to know what I'd done with their footwear. Oops.
The responsible guest should inform the host the minute he sees someone acting out of control. The host should then implement this tripartite drunkenness intervention strategy:
Delegate. Hosts are too busy refilling other guests' drinks to baby-sit those who've overdone it. If the host does find out that a friend is acting badly, he or she should ask a trusted friend to handle it, possibly whoever brought the guest or knows him best. Obviously, since the guest in this case was pawing women, the ideal candidate would be a large, strong male who doesn't mind playing levelheaded alpha dog.
Soothe. Trevor Estelle, a trainer with TIPS, which teaches bartenders how to deal with drunks, suggests avoiding "you" statements. "Saying things like 'You're drunk' could inflame them and make them aggressive." So the handler should avoid saying, "You're trashed, so I'm taking you outside to sober up." It's better to say, "I need to talk to you."
Isolate. Ideally, the handler should drive the drunk home and put him to bed, or failing that, call him a cab. But the handler should give the address to the cabbie himself, rather than relying on the drunk being able to remember it. If a ride home isn't feasible, the handler should take the guest outside, to a bedroom, or even just away from the booze.
When I put this question to readers of The Kitchn, Kaete responded: "One good way to deal with a drunken guest … is to get someone with a rather forceful personality to monopolize his attention [and] drag him off to a quieter corner of the party." Then, as Kaete advises, "ply him with food and water until the stupidity wears off."
But if the guest is becoming belligerent and things are really getting out of hand, you can always tell him you're going to call the cops—and then call them if need be. You don't want to risk the safety of other guests, and sometimes a visit from the police is a good wake-up call for a heavy drinker.
The best way for the lush to make amends is a round of contrite emails. As Kitchn reader cnslerpa says, "I would identify the people that were offended and apologize to them specifically. For example, the women who had their bums pinched and the hostess." It's best to use vague phrasing, as the offendee may not want to be reminded of the exact details of the incident. An email saying, "Sorry I was a jerk," is better than, "Sorry I grabbed your ass and urinated in your Zen fountain."
I would say, scratch him off your guest list until he gets alcohol under control and some better social manners. Continue to party and celebrate all the great moments in your life.
Co-ed events are what keep couples strong and connected to their circle of friends. Bravo!!
I always enlist my best friend or my sister-in-law to engage party folk who have had a few too many and are misbehaving. They could pretend to be interested in the biggest dullard around (which is an apt description of any drunk). They can also finesse any lout (male or female) into thinking they have decided to go sit down and take it easy. Last year I watched my friend say to a very drunk man...+READ
I always enlist my best friend or my sister-in-law to engage party folk who have had a few too many and are misbehaving. They could pretend to be interested in the biggest dullard around (which is an apt description of any drunk). They can also finesse any lout (male or female) into thinking they have decided to go sit down and take it easy. Last year I watched my friend say to a very drunk man who told her he was heading to get another drink say: "Really?" and then squinched her nose and forehead and sort of head pull back. It stopped him in his tracks. She then walked in casually to the kitchen with him and sympathetically poured him a coke and said something like it would help. It worked. I am going to be employing that this Christmas at our party. If neither women is around - dear hubby pulls them aside and says "your being a drunken jerk - cut the boozing". And finally - men should never have to endure baby showers. Women should not either for that matter. Who would not want to get plastered? Ditto that for wedding showers. The person who said women are harder to handle when drunk was spot on.-COLLAPSE
I do not hate my husband enough to drag him to a shower. UGH.
I won't go to a baby shower unless there's beer or wine. No way I'm hanging out in the middle of the afternoon to decorate onesies with puff paint, pin the bottle on the baby, and watch the mother to be open presents for 2 hours without some booze. That is increadibly boring.
I've been to 3 wonderful, tasteful, and fun co-ed baby showers. They are the way to go these days if you want anyone to...+READ
I won't go to a baby shower unless there's beer or wine. No way I'm hanging out in the middle of the afternoon to decorate onesies with puff paint, pin the bottle on the baby, and watch the mother to be open presents for 2 hours without some booze. That is increadibly boring.
I've been to 3 wonderful, tasteful, and fun co-ed baby showers. They are the way to go these days if you want anyone to show up.-COLLAPSE
Coed baby showers are an abomination.
Many years ago when our abode was a seventh floor condo with a dynamite city view we had a party of 30 or so guests one of whom distinguished himself by getting very drunk and then hitting on or making a pass at every guest, women and men. Thankfully his girlfriend intervened and took him out on to the balcony to enjoy the view and hopefully not throw up on the cars beneath. The next day, every...+READ
Many years ago when our abode was a seventh floor condo with a dynamite city view we had a party of 30 or so guests one of whom distinguished himself by getting very drunk and then hitting on or making a pass at every guest, women and men. Thankfully his girlfriend intervened and took him out on to the balcony to enjoy the view and hopefully not throw up on the cars beneath. The next day, every single guest called and said that if we were going to have another party and this guy was invited, to please remove their name from the list.-COLLAPSE
Interesting comments here, as Viking pointed out note that this was presented as removed from a traditional shower. The issue is not how to deal with a drunk guy it a baby shower, it's what's the best way to deal with a problem drunk at a party. To counter some of the man bashing - Having worked in several bars in my life, drunk women are much more difficult to deal with in most cases than drunk...+READ
Interesting comments here, as Viking pointed out note that this was presented as removed from a traditional shower. The issue is not how to deal with a drunk guy it a baby shower, it's what's the best way to deal with a problem drunk at a party. To counter some of the man bashing - Having worked in several bars in my life, drunk women are much more difficult to deal with in most cases than drunk guys. Drunk women don't have the same hard wired boundries that a guy has where there will generally be physical consequences to crossing certain boundries. Guys will generally respond when told they need to stop being an idiot, in a rare case they'll get physical becuase of it. I witnessed woman so drunk she spilled her own drink on herself then tried to attack an innocent bystander for supposedly throwing her own drink in her face.-COLLAPSE
Easy, you get whomever brought the lush to the party to remove the lush from the party, simple as that. If you go to a party and bring a guest you are responsible for that guest. Period. If I get loaded and act like a douche at my wife's Xmas party I deserve a swift kick in the ass, by her, as I am her guest.
Why are you people making it more difficult than it actually is?
Boot his/her ass!
Thanks, I like these suggestions.
Gotta love all the male bashing going on here. Right, because men not only can't drink in moderation - just add alcohol and they all begin assaulting women! Did you learn this in your all-women feminist studies college or do you just live in a very very small town of inbreds?
Solution: Do not invite men to baby showers.
Oh, and as to why there were men and/or alcohol there? The writer addresses that in the very beginning: in short, because she wanted it that way. And, I would add, because this isn't 1956.
So what is the handler supposed to say *after* "I need to talk to you," if it's not "you're trashed"?
Guy sounds like fun....just the thing to liven up a dull baby shower.
Men didn't used to attend baby showers. Wonder why?
I would recommend taking him out to the garden to smoke some pot and then punching him forcefully in the head to silence him. One or the other would work.
Good question, Red Top, although it happens. Wasn't there a Seinfeld baby shower episode?
Upshot of article: drunkeness is not cute.
OK, the pregee was the guest of honor, not the host(ess). It was not her responsibility to deal with the inebriated guest. Since a co-hostess was on the receiving end of some of the drunk's attentions the people in charge could not have been unaware. The hostesses should have switched him over to non-alcoholic drinks immediately. If he was a friend his behavior when drunk couldn't have been a...+READ
OK, the pregee was the guest of honor, not the host(ess). It was not her responsibility to deal with the inebriated guest. Since a co-hostess was on the receiving end of some of the drunk's attentions the people in charge could not have been unaware. The hostesses should have switched him over to non-alcoholic drinks immediately. If he was a friend his behavior when drunk couldn't have been a secret.
A bigger question would be why alcohol for a baby shower? I hope the mom-to-be was abstaining due to the possibility of fetal alcohol syndrome.-COLLAPSE
"Helena was throwing parties with alcohol when she was a teenager? That explains a lot."
Who *wasn't* throwing parties with alcohol as a teenager???
Why would there be guys at a baby shower?
Helena was throwing parties with alcohol when she was a teenager? That explains a lot.
I think I DATED this guy.. and after his making a fool of me and an ass of himself made him call the offended parties and apologize directly. Which they reported back he did. Needless to say, this offender is history.
Yeah, don't tell them they are drunk. 1) they got that way on purpose. 2) they aren't gonna admit it and it will start an argument. 3) they believe they are acting in a totally reasonable manner, and that you are the one with a problem.
Call a cab and send them home. Do not put them in their car to have them sleep it off there.
Oh, good. I read "guest from hell" and assumed people got stabbed.
I think I KNOW that guy. How unfortunate! If it's any comfort, he made an ass of himself - not you!
I guess there are different kinds of baby showers...or I'm old fashioned. Most baby showers I've attended were *dry*, usually held in the afternoon, and attended by lots of old ladies: aunts, grandmas, etc. Hence, no alcohol, but lots of tea & coffee. Such an event doesn't have to be over-the-top twee (diaper cake, etc.) and can still be a pleasant affair.
I suspect I'm pathetically out of...+READ
I guess there are different kinds of baby showers...or I'm old fashioned. Most baby showers I've attended were *dry*, usually held in the afternoon, and attended by lots of old ladies: aunts, grandmas, etc. Hence, no alcohol, but lots of tea & coffee. Such an event doesn't have to be over-the-top twee (diaper cake, etc.) and can still be a pleasant affair.
I suspect I'm pathetically out of touch with the current state of baby showers.-COLLAPSE
Getting hammered at a baby shower? Damn that's awesome.
I'm not clear: whose friend was this, the hostess's or the honoree's? Either way, if the person was a friend, why can't you tell your friend straight up he's drunk and misbehaving and needs to get a cab or lie down? I'd think that would take precedence over pouring drinks as part of the hostess's job, not as something outside it.
If he wasn't a friend, same thing: agreed that you could either...+READ
I'm not clear: whose friend was this, the hostess's or the honoree's? Either way, if the person was a friend, why can't you tell your friend straight up he's drunk and misbehaving and needs to get a cab or lie down? I'd think that would take precedence over pouring drinks as part of the hostess's job, not as something outside it.
If he wasn't a friend, same thing: agreed that you could either make the same straight-up demand to the person who brought him or even just tell him he's worn out his welcome.
This goes beyond etiquette into the arena of common sense and concern for an already out-of-control situation. With a drunk engaging in sexual harrassment, he just needs to go. (And as for the implication that you don't want to disrupt the rest of the party, are you kidding? It's that kind of excitement partygoers live for.)-COLLAPSE