Dove Versus Pigeon Smackdown

What’s the difference between dove and pigeon? “Speaking ornithologically,” says judybird, “there are a number of species of wild doves, and also many wild pigeons.” But, says Sam Fujisaka, the doves that are commonly eaten are hunted in the wild, whereas culinarily a “pigeon” is usually a much larger bird bred and farm-raised specifically for eating—especially a squab, a young pigeon raised to be eaten at about four weeks and 12 to 24 ounces. “You probably need to know a hunter to get dove,” says Sam Fujisaka. “City pigeons—or flying rats—come in a range of colors from black to blue to greenish. One could eat city pigeons, but that may be one thing I would turn down.”

The kind of wild dove that is usually hunted for meat is tiny, with brownish-gray feathers. “Generally you just breast them; a breast is about bite size,” says Veggo. “An hour marinade in a teriyaki sauce, then onto a grill over mesquite, and you’re good to go.” James Cristinian likes them wrapped in bacon and baked.

Farm-raised pigeon features in cuisines from Chinese to French. KevinB likes the Chinese dish of deep-fried pigeon with a coating of five-spice powder. “As an appetizer, it’s generally one per person, and you eat everything except the head (although some do bite that, but I couldn’t),” he says. “You get a couple of legs, breasts which are good for a couple of bites each, and the tiny wings—well you just crunch through those, bones and all.” Asian markets and stores like Whole Foods are good bets for buying the birds.

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  • Does anyone know approx how many ounces of bone is in the dove breast, or the percentage of bone in the breast? Melissa Miller

  • I wish there was an edit function so that I could correct my unique spelling of 'pigeon'.

  • All too often, dove are wrapped in bacon and cooked on the grill until they are lumps of char. It's far better to bone the breast and pan sautee over high heat until just browned, then served rare. Better still, cover in duck fat and cook in a 225F oven for two hours. Cool, bone and shred, and season and stuff tamales with them.

  • What we don't know about these ubiquitous birds would fill a book. Fortunately, it did, and, I was fortunate to discover Courtney Humphries' "Superdove." Subtitled, "How the Pigeon Took Manhattan...and the World." The writing is fascinating, fun, educational -- no recipes. That's for Chows. Thank you, librarian, for ordering it, so I could find it, read it, buy it. And -a "pidgeon pie" story:

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    What we don't know about these ubiquitous birds would fill a book. Fortunately, it did, and, I was fortunate to discover Courtney Humphries' "Superdove." Subtitled, "How the Pigeon Took Manhattan...and the World." The writing is fascinating, fun, educational -- no recipes. That's for Chows. Thank you, librarian, for ordering it, so I could find it, read it, buy it. And -a "pidgeon pie" story:

    I had to come up with a theme and food for a special event that coincided with a performance, 'Blythe Spirit,' and decided to offer foods mentioned in the play. All foods were labeled, including the "Pidgeon Pie." While other oddly-named foods were devoured, the "Pidgeon Pie," which I was happy to tell patrons was, of course, chicken, remained untouched.-COLLAPSE